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[prospector]

From many sources, there were claims, made under oath, by folk who were privy to this information, about wrongdoing, especially from postal voting, that the Dems claimed were required due to Covid 19, that could not have been investigated, let alone rulings made, in the time frame available. Nevertheless, it would now appear to be a done deal.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out in the next four years.

[PHXPhlyer]

I can't find the video of Giuliani and his"witness" in Michigan, I think. Her testimony was hilarious.
Even Rudy tried to silence her.
If that is the proof that they are relying on, it is very weak indeed.

PP

[prospector]

Looks like it is not over yet, https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus ... ction-suit

" The order does not foreclose any other pending or future election appeals at the Supreme Court, but time is running out. The states meet next week on Dec. 14 for the Electoral College exercise. And on Jan. 6 there will be a joint session of the House and Senate to count the electoral votes and certify President-elect Joe Biden as the winner."

[PHXPhlyer]

Sorry Prospector, but nothing in the Fox article indicated that it was not over.

PP

[prospector]

" The order does not foreclose any other pending or future election appeals at the Supreme Court, but time is running out."

Does that not mean what it say's? taken directly from the article.

[Woody]

Well this must be a pretty big nail in the coffin.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55283024

[TheGreenGoblin]

I have been watching Trump's litigator Sydney Powell's preposterous antics, in pursuit of the President's "overturn" the election agenda, with some amusement.


Spyder bait

Sidney Powell’s secret election witness ‘Spyder’ says he never worked in military intelligence

The witness is code-named “Spyder.” Or sometimes “Spider.” His identity is so closely guarded that lawyer Sidney Powell has sought to keep it even from opposing counsel. And his account of vulnerability to international sabotage is a key part of Powell’s failing multistate effort to invalidate President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.

Powell describes Spyder in court filings as a former “Military Intelligence expert,” and his testimony is offered to support one of her central claims. In a declaration filed in four states, Spyder alleges that publicly available data about server traffic shows that voting systems in the United States were “certainly compromised by rogue actors, such as Iran and China.”

Spyder, it turns out, is Joshua Merritt, a 43-year-old information technology consultant in the Dallas area. Merritt confirmed his role as Powell’s secret witness in phone interviews this week with The Washington Post...

Federal judges have in the past week rejected all four of the complaints Powell has filed seeking to overturn the presidential election — lawsuits popularly known as the “kraken” suits, after a mythical sea creature she has harnessed as a sort of mascot — ruling either that the challenges should have been filed in state courts or were meritless.

In Michigan, attorneys for the state argued that Powell’s complaint was based on “fantastical conspiracy theories” that belong in the “fact-free outer reaches of the Internet.” A federal judge ruled this week that the allegation that votes were changed for Biden relied on an “amalgamation of theories, conjecture, and speculation.”

More crackpipe delusion than kraken Sydney, but keep on vaping the headbanging juice of Trumpian nonsense...

Ms Powell appears to be a complete fruitcake.

[TheGreenGoblin]

A party that has lost its moral compass...

Republican Party

The fact that so many Republicans are going along with this authoritarian and undemocratic charade is clarifying, if depressing. Through four years of Trump, there were two main theories of Republican acquiescence: either Republicans really were supportive of the president, in all of his cruelty and incompetence and authoritarianism, or Republicans were simply scared of him and his hold over the Republican base, but secretly loathed the man and were anxious for a return to normal.

Now, we’re seeing which theory was correct.

It turns out that Trump wasn’t an aberration. He was the result of long-building extremism and reality-denialism on the right. And when he came to power, far too many in the Republican party didn’t see a cruel, incurious, dictatorial madman, but a kindred spirit – and the kind of leader who would happily override inconvenient democratic norms, basic standards of human decency, and even the rule of law. That became increasingly clear the longer Trump was in office; yet, out of naivety or perhaps just misplaced trust in other human beings, too many Democrats, pundits, and average citizens chose to believe that Republicans were simply caught between a rock and a hard place, and that Trumpism would end with Trump.

[prospector]

And that article from the purveyor of truth, the Guardian, whose opinions many ,for some reason ,take as gospel

https://www.westernjournal.com/bidens-f ... jail-time/

"Following President Donald Trump’s commutation of supporter Roger Stone’s prison sentence, Democratic Congressman Adam Schiff went on Twitter to complain that “there are now two systems of justice in America: One for Trump’s criminal friends and one for everyone else.”

[prospector]

" I have been watching Trump's litigator Sydney Powell's preposterous antics"

Has it not been made public a number of times that S. Powell is not a member of Trump's team, but is acting independently?"?

[llondel]

" The order does not foreclose any other pending or future election appeals at the Supreme Court, but time is running out."

Does that not mean what it say's? taken directly from the article.

I think you have to read between the lines of the SCOTUS statements. Any other appeal that turns up is unlikely to delay what happens on Monday. The only dissent was that two of them thought they should go through the motions of hearing the case and then throwing it out, not just dismissing it immediately. The "would not grant relief" means they wouldn't have prevented the Electoral College vote on Monday.

[TheGreenGoblin]

" I have been watching Trump's litigator Sydney Powell's preposterous antics"

Has it not been made public a number of times that S. Powell is not a member of Trump's team, but is acting independently?"?

A lawyer acting, unpaid and independently, out of conviction? So ludicrous is that concept that one must then ask, if not for Trump then who is she acting for? Well, in my guise of agent provocateur, perhaps one could even imagine she is acting for Biden friendly parties, so preposterous and damaging is her "defence" of Trump and his seditious agenda!

With friends like her, who needs enemies eh!

[prospector]

She is acting independently, because she. as well as many others believe there has been such a rort with this, made with extreme haste, system of postal voting that for some reason would only
appear to have benefited the Dems in swing states.

" So ludicrous is that concept that one must then ask, if not for Trump then who is she acting for? " It would appear that for some people acting for what they believe is right, without the need for financial recompense is outside their zone of comprehension.

[TheGreenGoblin]

She is acting independently, because she. as well as many others believe there has been such a rort with this, made with extreme haste, system of postal voting that for some reason would only
appear to have benefited the Dems in swing states.

" So ludicrous is that concept that one must then ask, if not for Trump then who is she acting for? " It would appear that for some people acting for what they believe is right, without the need for financial recompense is outside their zone of comprehension.

Belief doesn't make it so. Her real issue is that she has no cause to believe so and has no evidence to back up these unsubstantiated claims, hence she almost has to manufacture evidence by presenting this litany of dubious witnesses. She and Giuliani have shredded their careers by becoming ensnared in Trump's mass fantasy.

[prospector]

Do you ever read any other news sources apart from CNN of MSNBC, or perhaps read only Washington post, owned by Bezos who hates Trumps guts?

[TheGreenGoblin]

Do you ever read any other news sources apart from CNN of MSNBC, or perhaps read only Washington post, owned by Bezos who hates Trumps guts?

I take my news from multiple reputable sites and newspapers but eschew loony conspiracy sites. You might benefit from eschewing the latter yourself.

[prospector]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/forensic- ... pushengage

[EA01]

He blasted Trump's false complaints about fraud "unacceptable."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michiga ... d=74725718

[Boac]

Faster than an iceberg in globular worming, the last few chunks of Chumparama are falling into the sea. William Barr is off to spend 'more time with his family' and Republican Paul Mitchell (Michigan) has fallen into the sea because of fears of 'long-term harm to our democracy' and is now standing as as independent.

Someone needs to tow the remaining Trumpberg away. - PLEASE!

[Woody]

Could the last one out, please turnout the lights.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55312016