Snowflake madness

[SOPS]

What the fxxk is wrong with these people?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... lakes.html

[probes]

I was somewhat baffled, too (to put it diplomatically) ˇ. Special treatment in colleges and universities, my...

...today’s students, despite their predominantly middle-class backgrounds, have been encouraged to see themselves as the suffering casualties of a cruel world.

Instead of recognising their own privilege, they see themselves as victims of oppression, which is why so many of them flocked to Jeremy Corbyn, who shamelessly panders to their sense of entitlement.

They see no shame in asking for special treatment; indeed, as any academic will tell you, today’s students can hardly wait to proclaim themselves uniquely hard done by, and to demand compensation for their educational handicaps and mental disabilities, whether real or imagined.

As the U.S. psychologist Sean Rife puts it, in a society where ‘victimhood has become the ultimate status symbol . . . the notion of quietly bearing one’s trials has become passe’.

Perhaps the most famous example of this is a deranged furore at Yale, one of the most prestigious universities in the U. S., where student activists complained that professors were not treating their fears about potentially offensive Halloween costumes seriously enough. (Yes, really.) You can see the clip on YouTube, and it makes for truly extraordinary viewing.
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Take the students at the University of East Anglia who took offence at what they saw as ‘cultural appropriation’ — or the act of using things from another culture — because a local Mexican restaurant handed out Sombreros.

Or the student activists at Sussex, who asked their fellows to stop using the pronouns ‘he’ and ‘she’ because they make ‘assumptions about identity’.

A collective mania seems to have seized Britain’s campuses.

What makes this so toxic is that campuses often set the tone for mainstream society, since it is our universities that produce the leaders of the future.

You can bet the youthful prigs and censors of today will be the Labour MPs and BBC executives of tomorrow, endlessly hectoring the rest of us about the importance of safe spaces and making sure that every prime-time TV show has a transgender character.

[Sisemen]

We got a heap in Oz also.

[Pontius Navigator]

Chopsticks?

Sit down toilets?

How about going French with squatters for squitters?

How about getting rid of Thomas Crapper's and convert students' showers to dual use? Save on paper too.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

Easily explicable - sanctions for children have been removed from education, from society, and largely by parents also.
Thus, they never grow up, and why should they? Doing what they like, and whining when they can't, works. It worked at age 5, it works at age 25.
If any two of the three have sanctions in place, they grow up. I have seen all of the combinations of the three elements missing and present in the last 10 years, and the principle holds, with exceptions. Very good parents can raise children properly if the other two are missing, but there are no guarantees. Also possible is an excellent boarding school education, where the staff act as parents (as well as in loco parentis) in place of dire real ones, but that's a round-about two out of three.
What really helps is the transfer of responsibility to the children as early as possible. Again, this has been very largely removed from all of education, society and parenting. Partly from H&S (and the threat of legal action associated with it, whether fair or not), partly because it takes a lot of experienced judgement to do it well, and also because it takes a lot of monitoring time and effort initially.
One of the big things is adventurous training, which has been very largely killed off. My nephew's "camping" trip last spring was in fixed accommodation, for one night only. They still call it camping. Incidentally, the fatal accident rate on school trips in the UK has gone UP as a consequence of the massive reduction in potential risk.
I could bang on about this for hours, so I'll stop, and only carry on if people have questions.

[Pontius Navigator]

Aye, foreign en famille exchanges have gone, replaced by supervised group trips where teachers get pished when little dears have gone to bed and little dears get pished while teachers are . . .

Or teacher seduces star pupil - non sexist of course - mm mf fm ff

[Slasher]

I think their revolutionary idealist parents and grandparents of the 70's are proud of what Socialist infiltration by Fabian stealth has very much successfully achieved in only 2 successive generations. They are a very patient lot, and goes to show how, through time, carefully thought out methods work extremely well when slowly inflicted upon the masses.

[Stoneboat]

Read a bit about The Frankfurt School. Sounds kinda familiar.

The Frankfurt School Of Cultural Marxism.

[Slasher]

I read that quite a few months ago Mr Boat, but well worth the reread.

During the 70s I was a teen in the Oz public school system when the left wing yahoos infiltrated it with a vengeance. Although not yet an adult it was obvious to blind Freddy what these dicks were up to. This was in high school - primary school kids at that time were still quite free of the socialist education agenda, with its attendant dogma, lies and brainwashing under its softly named "social engineering".

I managed to obtain a copy of "Towards Socialism in Australia" from the local Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) in town, which, although not in blatant words, stated a breakdown of the family unit (which would occur naturally under capitalism so it said) is one of the basic foundations for the establishment of Marxist socialism in Australia. This then made sense of the antics of Jim Cairns, Gough Whitman et al and the purposes therefore during that decade. Later PM Robert "the silver bodgie" Hawke was also a Fabian as were many of his socialist cohorts. My only perceptions and observation first hand started from 1972 to present.

[Stoneboat]

Slasher I got out of high school before all that ***** hit the fan in the 1960's, although I doubt that the school I attended would have been fertile ground for that kind of dogma. The HS principal I had was captured by the Japanese at Hong Kong in 1941 and spent the war at slave labour in a mine near Nagasaki. His reaction to the use of the A-bomb would upset a lot of people nowadays. Another teacher of mine had escaped the commies during the 1956 rebellion in Budapest. I really cannot understand the fascination that educators have with the far left. They are allegedly intelligent people, how in Christ's name can they believe that shyte?

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

From my experience in the UK, many teachers have a deep aversion to criticism. This is partly because good education is somewhat philosophical, and there are many ways to skin that cat, but mostly because criticism is perceived as putting their job at risk. If you add to that the general principles of education, which are both social and about giving according to need from available talent, and one can see that socialism has a fertile breeding ground. They believe it partly because of they are desperate to be seen as selfless, and partly because socialism doesn't criticise, and partly because school is a highly idealized environment with none of that nasty messy reality where socialism is proven to fail.
For a long time teaching had a steady infusion of ex-Servicemen, both after the wars, and during wars when retired Servicemen were asked to teach. That effectively kept socialism in education to a clique in the corner of the staff room, and the expositions by socialist teachers in the classroom were soon exposed to reality by rigorous questioning from the pupils. Said pupils were often put up to it by the ex-Service staff ("Ask him how many died under Stalin" and the like), and of course the pupils knew they had top cover for asking the questions.
However, once the majority of the WW2 crowd had retired by the late 1970s, there were now also a higher proportion of socialists joining education. Things were still pretty much OK when Maggie was in power, but went rapidly downhill from there. Add in the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union, and there was now a rapid drop off in ex-Servicemen feeding in, and the removal of the Soviet boogey man. It should be remembered that Tony Blair's chief education SpAd literally wanted every private school teacher taken out and shot.
End result: the current oblivion of endless time in classrooms, for adults and children, with very little being learned, and little of that good.

[Slasher]

Thanks for the reply Stoneboat. My usual retort to the anti-Hiro and Naga dopes is they weren't the ones chosen for the initial landings on Honshu to have their guts ripped out by rabid Japs as soon as they trod on the beach, and that they would've breathed a huge sigh of relief after those 2 cities were reduced to radioactive dungheaps. Since the Pacific island invasions cost on average up to 100,000 US lives, the deaths from a landing on the Nips' home soil would've easily been well over a million.

Thank christ the Greatest generation was around during those dangerous times and not bloody snowflakes. If they were I'dve probably been a slave laborer in Oz for the Yellow Perilites, assuming my grandfolks weren't used as bayonet targets for Bushido newbie-sans under the able instruction from 'veterans' of Nanking and Singapore.

Fox3 I don't usually respond to your posts but I read them intently. Please keep 'em coming mate!

[A Lutra Continua]

The only censure under the left is for thought crime if you don't adhere to the current groupthink. Anything else is permitted and even encouraged. There are no consequences for being an utter, oxygen thieving dung trumpet (witness Russell Brand et cie) as long as you hold the opinions considered correct.

[Cacophonix]

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Snowflake madness!

Caco

[unifoxos]

They are allegedly intelligent people

So people think. My observation (grammar school, late '50s) was that the brightest leavers went to University, the middle group (me included) went to industry, usually as engineers on some sort of apprenticeship type scheme, and those of the lowest intelligence became either teachers or plod.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

I've only taught in good independent schools - everyone there knew their subject well. I observed occasionally at a state comprehensive for a couple of years, for my own edification; and also attended a lot of courses with state school teachers. The teachers there also knew their subjects well, if a little less well on average. However, that local comprehensive had no one actually qualified in physics. There are similar problems in other STEM subjects, and also over here in the state sector in Canada, and it's worse in the US, so the teacher maybe intelligent in their subject, but that isn't the one they are supposedly teaching.
A related problem is that, since there is a dearth of real world experience in most teachers, plus the dearth of subjects they know which are capable of rigorous analysis, one does tend to get an entire range of totally half-assed "policies" and initiatives which have taken over education, never mind the left-wingery. Many's the time I've heard a STEM teacher respond with "well that won't work" to a policy initiative, and proceed into some pragmatic or rigorous analysis of why said initiative is b#llocks. Now the State school English (say) teacher who's had a real job will also do the pragmatic bit (I've seen it, done just as well as an independent school science teacher), but they can normally be blinded with stats/"science" etc. However, the science teacher can rip the stats and so-called "science" apart also. That goes for good State school science teachers also, in any of the three countries listed (if you can find one).
Then there's the organisational aspects. Teachers are intelligent about their subject, yes; but intelligent about leadership, systems, origination and analysis of plans, administration? Well, have they been taught any of those? Then what would one expect? Anyone who has done an Armed Forces leadership and admin training course, including the Corporals' course in the Air Force ( = Colonel in the Army ) can pull apart how education is run and tell them how to do it better. And so can science teachers once they have been shown the techniques. Actually, so can the kids who have reached Cadet Sergeant rank in a school cadet force.
And what about the lawyers, accountants and other 'professionals' involved with education - have their professional courses included leadership, systems, etc? Nope.

..and since the readership of Ops-normal consists exclusively of real-world-experienced people who are associated with flying, which requires a rigorous, scientific approach to problem-solving, we ALL tend to react to much in modern education with "That is TOTAL horsesh*t!". And we are right

[Bob]

I've never been a full time teacher, but have done so in a technical advisory role to aero-eng students, the group I had last year couldn't tell the difference between a bolt and a rivet..seriously!!!!! when I finally broke and told one of the students (about 19 year old) that the work he had just done was rubbish, it was as if I had just raped his mother, the reaction was profound, it must have been the first time in his educational life that someone had told him the truth about his abilities.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

One of the aero eng companies near me has difficulties also; I chat to the boss occasionally. They are fortunate in having a tech training department at the local high school, so the bolt/rivet problem doesn't arise, but there is much difficulty with youth handling criticism in a similar vein to how you describe it, at its worst between the older and younger technicians on the shop floor.

[BackToAllNightLights]

Shudder............

an ex-Manager.
Technical Operations.
Major International Commercial Airline.

[Flame Lily FX]

I was chatting yesterday to a late 50 something male, Head of Department, who teaches English at a local state school in Newcastle. He had no idea where Kenya is. English is his subject he replied to me. His wife, a 57 year old PE teacher there, said she didn't know the word 'embargoed'. Had no idea of the whereabouts of Kenya. Geography not her thing either. They will both soon retire on top government pensions after both working there for 30+ years.

I was gobsmacked.

I ordered another pint of Bitburger and enjoyed the sunset and the circling Swifts.