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The Panasonic guys who installed my a/c used flexible electricity ducting for the water outlet pipe. (This is Spain, after all). Ten years of Spanish sun has had its effect and the plastic ducting has biodegraded into powder. Really powder.

Now this is an excellent idea https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -time.html

I wouldn't totally give up on plastic just yet.

Well this is good news https://news.sky.com/story/unilever-con ... s-11829909

As an aside there are a lot of products here that are sold in rigid plastic bottles eg washing up liquid and general house cleaner, which can be refilled with soft plastic pouches made from recycled plastic. However, the refills are more expensive most of the time due to the bottles constantly being on special offer. Now I go for the ecological refill, but I suspect that I am in the minority.

Well this is good news

So’s this!

Yet another example of how innovation is slowly replacing single use plastic with viable ecological alternatives. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -wood.html Long term projects which hopefully bear fruit.

Nicked from Sise in the Children Climate thread. This’ll make TS as livid me!

for the above post.

Now, I hope that this idea catches on; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... atoes.html

It would be nice to think that when I buy cans of fruit juice or beer loose that I am being eco friendly. However I know that they arrive at the shops as six packs wrapped in un- recyclable plastic. Even small bottles of beer which are sitting on a cardboard tray are wrapped in plastic, why cant they be packed into a box? Or why not put them into reusable plastic crates which they use for the large bottles?

I hope so too, but I fear it won't make much of an impact. All the stuff is shrink wrapped in plastic for convenience in packaging and handling, and for some goods, to prevent tampering and pilfering.

What would be a step forward is to use plastic or fibre webbing to hold bottles and tins together. It is still plastic, but significantly smaller amounts and disposal would be easy.

Good to see Tesco making an effort to reduce plastic; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tores.html

Maybe package designers will be forced by large companies like Tesco to redesign/design packaging to minimise the amount of plastic used. However I suspect that manufacturers may be resistent to such changes as it surely would be costly to replace/modify packaging machines. Hopefully things will slowly change for the better.

Morrisons have shot themselves in the foot with this latest product idea; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ASTIC.html

Well this is an imaginative way to use up plastic waste, and looks fun too; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... waste.html

Probably the best next step would be to address the 2nd and 3rd world countries that indiscriminately toss their plastic detritus into the sea, India, Bangladesh, China, Indonesia, and all of Africa, for example, and establish recycling and more environmental consciousness there.

Communism and Socialism also tend to leave a horrendous ecological legacy. Stamping those cancers out for good would be a gigantic advance, not only for ecology but for lifting people out of poverty to the point where they can afford to maintain their environments. The Capitalist countries are at the forefront of environmental preservation.

I know many don't like links from the Groiniad, but this is a well written and interesting article; https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... y-dwellers

Plastic is everywhere even if you can't see it which is worrying.

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Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:40 am

the Groiniad

TS that sounds like an unknown Homer classic that is just far too painful for blokes to read!

An interesting article from Sky News highlighting the problems with reducing single use plastic; https://news.sky.com/story/kneejerk-mov ... t-11904417

120 points to Slash for 'nicking from Sise' - that's exactly what I've been thinking. It's devastating for a teenager to be treated like a messiah, especially as the message is emotional, but ... well, youknow.

I’m sure as a late teenager you were devastatingly treated as a pure goddess Probes hon!

Yes but I only nick stuff that I know is legally nickable and notify the nickee later it was nicked. Not to be confused with knickers which I’d nick without saying boo while nicking off with said knickery.

It seems to be the younger generation who keep on lecturing us about Global Warming and Climate Change Emergency, while at the same time being the driving force behind ecologically unfriendly products such as eggs for poaching in plastic bags, garlic transported to China to be peeled and sent back to Europe to be packaged into plastic pots, and now ready peeled potatoes in a plastic bag; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... uches.html

And to make it worse Marks and Sparks claim that they aim to be plastic free by 2025!

This is a well written article by Jeremy Paxman; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... -rage.html

Yet another corporation putting the blame on to the consumer instead of themselves. And also claiming that they are doing really well at recycling.