Climate Disruption.

[Rwy in Sight]

Unfortunately few people can understand that GT has a considerable carbon footprint well protected from the media

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

If one is campaigning on reducing CO2 use, one should video-conference.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/microso ... sentations

[G-CPTN]

If one is campaigning on reducing CO2 use, one should video-conference.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/microso ... sentations

One of the side effects of attending a physical conference is meeting face to face with other delegates who are probably working in the same sphere and may even be commercial competitors - though maybe with similar problems (in my case it was legislation that was restricting us).
After informal chats, we agreed to combine forces and I led a rebellion which resulted in changes that were beneficial to all concerned and beneficial to safety.
I could expand, but most of you would find it tedious and boring.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

[prospector]

Henry Plumptre
@plumptre_henry
Unfortunately- Australia is the indirect architect of its own demise. The largest exporter of thermal and coking coal in the world now, adding massively to global warming through their own export initiatives. Federal and State government owned by climate sceptics.

And he would know??? 1.3% being generated by Australia?

[Rwy in Sight]

Fox3WheresMyBanana[/b] post_id=205634 time=1575759734 user_id=178]

I am not surprised about Mr. Bloomberg. As a matter of fact it is vital now to add a short paragraph on those statements describing not who the person or the institution are but how large their carbon footprint is (like how many extra CO2 was emitted by extra airline seat-miles generated by GT sailing trips, or when the streets of Madrid will be closed to normal traffic to accommodate activists and politicians at the conference.

G-CPTN I don't deny the advantage of the face to face meetings and how great they are for better work with people. My arguments aims activists for the environment and actors flying into nice places often on private jets and asking everybody else to live a worst life for the sake of the environment. Maybe I am too much fan of the "lead by the example" principal.

[OFSO]

I think Fox3 has hit on a new unit of eco- hypocrisy, the GE or Greta Equivalent, measuring how much extra pollution one has created by demonstrating ones eco-soundness in the face of common sense.

[G-CPTN]

Is it true that the catamaran 'sailed' with the help of an engine?
What was wrong with pedals?

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

Probably.
Their route crossed the Horse Latitudes, so called because the old galleons with no auxiliary power could get stuck with no wind for weeks there, and would eventually have to throw the horses overboard to conserve fresh water.
I ran my auxiliary outboard for 85 hours during my 25 day crossing of the Atlantic, using it in several no wind areas. A cat as small as mine was - 30 foot - can be powered at a knot or two by oars, with the rower on a little temporary platform at the back. This was actually done during the Round Britain and Ireland Race for which it was originally designed. However, a 40 foot cat with 6 people aboard would be too draggy for this to be practical. If it's any consolation, a cat is the most efficient sailing vessel for auxiliary power, so they won't have used much fuel. I used 80 litres.

[1DC]

I believe that Gretas cat has a solar powered engine for when the wind is blowing in the wrong direction.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

Tokenism.
You'd need a half a ton of batteries and 9 solar panels at least to provide enough energy for half a day's motoring. I know because I have an electric boat.
Electric outboards on big sailing boats are for parking them, nothing else.

[G-CPTN]

The technical specifications of the catamaran include two 30HP engines.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

That's about right, I should think they are inboard diesels. One only needs about 10 -15 hp for cruising at about 5 kts, with very good fuel consumption. Two are preferred as there is much easier manoeuvrability in harbour with an engine in each hull, and it gives redundancy. My 30 footer had a single 9.9hp outboard on a lifting bracket.

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Redundancy was provided by the 2hp outboard for the dinghy, which could be jury-rigged to power the main boat.

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[prospector]

A quite forceful denial of global warming

[Slasher]

Their route crossed the Horse Latitudes, so called because the old galleons with no auxiliary power could get stuck with no wind for weeks there, and would eventually have to throw the horses overboard to conserve fresh water.

I never fail to humbly learn something new on this site.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

The solution to the Horse latitudes problem going westabout is to head down to about 25 to 15 degrees latitude then catch the trade winds and current to cross to the Americas. Eastabout, one goes north with the Gulf Stream current until encountering the prevailing westerlies around 40 degrees north latitude. Christopher Columbus was the first to put both together.
The old advice, when sailing from Europe to America, was : "South until the butter melts, then turn right." It does work. I kept some butter out to check this. It was correct to within half a day.

[AtomKraft]

I heard that they used to chuck the horses in the water, and get them to tow the boat.
Thus that name.

[AtomKraft]

I see my horse latitude theory is quite unsupported on't web...

[Sisemen]

The incorrectly named “horse” latitudes should actually be called the “hoarse” latitudes on account of the ship’s crew shouting for days on end “ Give us some wind FFS!”.

[Slasher]

Not satisfied with just screwing Aviation, now the slimy greedy repugnant bastards are attacking the humble choo choo.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... li=BBnba9I

When it comes to this AGW crap it’s becoming easier and easier to follow the money.