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Re: Climate Disruption.

#301 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:22 pm

Possibilities:
Instantanteous readout glitch
Averaging process, readings taken just before and just after a tack, so appears to be little forward progress
Dropped all sail for some reason
A sail got tangled up and needed sorting
Visitation by aliens, etc.

My guess is the second one.

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Re: Climate Disruption.

#302 Post by OFSO » Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:47 pm

Her Saintliness became so irritating that they threw her overboard and then thought better of it and went back to collect her..

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Re: Climate Disruption.

#303 Post by Undried Plum » Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:47 pm

4mastacker wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:52 pm
Can any of you yachty types explain why the sainted one's boat would carry out such a manoeuvre?

My own completely unqualified view is that there was another vessel alongside to either do a boat-to-boat transfer or pass a towline and they drifted in the strong wind...or was it to empty the much publicised poo bucket?

Prior to that manoeuvre the boat was doing about 18 knots, then it dropped down to 1.1 knots now it's back up to 12.

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Seemples. The vessel was becalmed. It happens to sailing vessels sometimes.

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Re: Climate Disruption.

#304 Post by 4mastacker » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:21 pm

Thank you UP. I must say I never thought of that as the boat seemed to be amongst plenty of the little wind arrows coming from from the NW
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Re: Climate Disruption.

#305 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:34 pm

I've never been becalmed in a windfield like that, hence why I discounted it.

Looking at the zig-zaggy bit in more detail, I reckon they may have had a problem with the foresail. Maybe it got tangled up when they tacked north, or torn, or the hailyard parted. Note that they immediately turned downwind to the SE. This would take the relative wind down to make it easier to sort the sail out, then they turn back into wind to haul back up the sorted sail (or replacement), then they go back on track again. Could have been the mainsail, but it's usually the foresail that has problems on a tack.

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Re: Climate Disruption.

#306 Post by OFSO » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:58 pm

Turning downwind to empty the bucket ? (Mrs OFSO's contribution)

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#307 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:48 pm

Mrs OFSO may be on the right lines. Trying to use the bucket doing full speed in a racing yacht on the wind is, I can tell you, not pleasant, and maybe not possible for a novice. It is possible they turned downwind to fill the bucket, as it were. However, turning off the wind and reducing sail is quite sufficient to calm the boat's motion, and what I have normally done as helm in these circumstances (e.g. Fastnet race)

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#308 Post by Rwy in Sight » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:03 pm

I am surprised by the length of the manoeuvre. Much longer than a normal tack

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Re: Climate Disruption.

#309 Post by OFSO » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:07 pm

Charismatic leaders - I thought the reverence shown to GT reminded me of something. Google the "Children's Crusades" if you are interested. Two other children obsessed with a vision, utterly unpractical, led thousands of adults and children to disaster. Nothing new under the sun, as my dear old mum would have said.

Of course there's even more associated with sailing off into the West to be found in mythology, from King Arthur to Bilbo and Frodo.

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Re: Climate Disruption.

#310 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:57 pm

I have a copy of eyewitness accounts of the Crusades; sobering stuff.
I am surprised by the length of the manoeuvre. Much longer than a normal tack
The technical description among offshore skippers is F#ck Up
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#311 Post by Stoneboat » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:45 pm

There is something very smug and irritating about her. Perhaps she'll try to swim back!
True believers think she will walk. ;)))

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Re: Climate Disruption.

#312 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:14 am

Nobody walks anywhere these days...
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British Airways and Shell to build Europe's first facility to convert rubbish into jet fuel

#313 Post by Capetonian » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:34 am

Can somebody please tell Greta Thunberg?
British Airways and Shell to build Europe's first facility to convert rubbish into jet fuel

British Airways and Royal Dutch Shell have submitted plans to build Europe’s first plant that converts household waste into jet fuel.

The duo will work with Velocys, a sustainable fuel specialist, on the site near to the Humber estuary in North Lincolnshire.

It is hoped that around half a million tonnes of rubbish destined for landfill will be converted into cleaner burning aviation fuel.

Although this will be the first site making the fuel in Europe, BA won’t be the first to use biofuel to power its services. Virgin Atlantic used a 5pc mix of biofuel for a Transatlantic service last October.

British Airways boss Alex Cruz said the planning application “marks a major milestone in this project”.

He added: “This development is an important step in the reduction of our carbon emissions and meeting the industry targets of carbon neutral growth from 2020, and a 50pc in CO2 reduction by 2050 from 2005 levels.”

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Re: Climate Disruption.

#314 Post by Undried Plum » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:51 am

Rwy in Sight wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:03 pm
I am surprised by the length of the manoeuvre. Much longer than a normal tack
To my eye, that kink and curve track pattern is characteristic of the use of route optimisation software. I don't think it had anything to do with any rig or rag failure.

I'd wager that they're using such software, on the GFS wind prediction model, and interpolating hourly between six-hourly Grib updates.

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Re: Climate Disruption.

#315 Post by Pontius Navigator » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:28 am

I see Harry's private jet to Mrs Elton was OK and carbon neutral as she paid for carbon offsets.

Not the f*cking point. Pay for the carbon and don't use it. That is saving the planet.

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#316 Post by AtomKraft » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:15 pm

All this AGW bollocks is based on the false premise that Mankind controls the temperature of our planet.

We don't!

It's gone between much hotter and much colder than today, before we were even out of caves.

Conserve by all means. Reduce energy use wherever possible, but remember the UK has been under a mile of ice before, and eventually it will be again.

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Re: Climate Disruption.

#317 Post by Slasher » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:10 am

+1 what Atom said above.

Could some members cut down on the Thornturd thing? I for one don't care one ounce of sh!t whether or not her plastic boat and bucket sinks in the middle of the ocean and is never heard from again.

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Re: Climate Disruption.

#318 Post by Slasher » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:38 am

I've been following this bloke after someone posted what he said about something else (Brexit?).



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Re: Climate Disruption.

#319 Post by Sisemen » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:09 am

She has that odd look which indicates that all is not completely normal; sort of a semi-Down’s Syndrome or inbreeding.

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Re: Climate Disruption.

#320 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:27 am

Lots of kids look like that in school photos; most aren't nuts.

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