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Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:17 pm
by Wodrick
No necessary on BBC [though likely]
to quote Newsround "The series is being made by BBC Studios' Science Unit, but there are no details yet on when or where we might be able to see it. "

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:34 pm
by OFSO
I just can't wait. I really can't. No seriously, I'm desperate. Cheery optimistic Greta, fifteen minutes every evening on prime time TV. Paid for from our licence fee. Oh jubilation ! How lucky we are.

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:29 pm
by Pontius Navigator
What about the UK non -hydrocarbon car target?

First 2050, then 40, then 35, now 32.

Why wait 12 years? Why not next year 😆?

Stop all petrol/diesel imports now; that'll sort out the EU. Cars already in UK to be sold. That will allow dealers to clear stocks. UK manufacturers to make non-hydrocarbon cars only. Those with an electric car in production will get a head start.

Existing cars on the road to continue so garages will thrive maintaining these older vehicles. Introduce a reducing scrappage scheme. Any car over 10 years old gets £XXXX for scrappage. Follow year any car passing the 10 year mark scrappage reduces until it reached zero. Then tax increases at same rate as scrappage reduced 😁.

15years, job done. If you run a classic car then you can probably afford it and pay £20-30 per gallon.

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:42 pm
by G-CPTN
What will happen to 'service stations' currently dispensing liquid hydrocarbon fuels?

Apart from the speed with which current vehicles can be refuelled compared to proposed electric vehicles, the infrequency of the need to refuel (compared with electric vehicles) means that, currently, fewer vehicles per hour need to visit yet there are frequently queues for available pumps.
I suppose that once the liquid fuel facilities are removed they will be replaced by parking slots with electrical recharging points?

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:38 pm
by prospector
Interesting information from so called climate "experts" interpreted by a realist?


Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:05 pm
by Capetonian
Programme now on C5 about Extinction Rebellion.

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:26 am
by Capetonian
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-clima ... newsletter

MELBOURNE (Reuters) - Australia’s deadly wildfires have opened up a small window of opportunity for the country to break a decade-long impasse on climate policy, as some politicians and big business push for major change.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/15/worl ... newsletter

The End of Australia as We Know It
What many of us have witnessed this fire season feels alive and monstrous.

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:41 pm
by AtomKraft
Here in Kazakhstan, it's been unusually warm.
Instead of being -25 to -30, dry and high pressure it's been -5 to -10 with lots of snow. It's usually very dry. No sign of the Siberian high either.

So, either GW has arrived big time,band bumped the temp here up by 15C, which seems unlikely, or it's weather.

My money's on the latter, and I've heard tell it's due to el Nina?

Either way, couldn't give a.

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:25 pm
by OFSO
All you people - yes, you too Greta - who think the Great Ice Age and the Little Ice Age were anomalies, and the 15,000 years between the former and now is 'normal' (and remember that 15,000 years encompassed the development of what we laughingly call homo sapiens) should consider the unfashionable but very real possibility that the interregnum is in fact the anomaly and that we are headed into the Big Freeze again.

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:27 am
by bob2s
But,but,but,OFSO the Greenie just got thru telling us Climat Change is heating the bejesus out of planet and you come along and say it is on it's way to the Big Freeze.
It is like I said back at #683 none of the learned lot can agree on what is happening/not happening to this orb we call home.

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:58 am
by ExSp33db1rd
...none of the learned lot can agree...
Like everything else, ask 3 people and get 5 answers.

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:57 am
by AtomKraft
Just to add, the weather here this winter is unusual, but it was like this and worse in the nineties.
It's always changing.

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:57 am
by barkingmad
Is this the same generation who’ve recently been heard criticising us outdated grumpies for ruining the planet? ;

https://www.euronews.com/living/2020/02 ... m-the-uk-o

The same generation who need a “Smart Meter” to advise them they’re using energy, the same generation who change their mobile phones every six months, the same generation who replace rather than repair things that break, the same generation who buy expensive water-usage heavy clothing items for one wearing only, the same (continues in same vein til the vet is called in) ?

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:40 pm
by G-CPTN
The radio ads for Smart Meters are now saying that intervention is needed to achieve the promised savings - ie the reduction isn't automatic (!)

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:27 pm
by OFSO
Smart readers compulsory in Spain. New one since last autumn. First bill was 40% higher than with old meter despite nothing changing and us being away half the time. Wrote to Endesa CEO, answer was meter is accurate, must be right, get stuffed.

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:18 pm
by llondel
It is quite possible that the meter is correct and the difference is down to the old one under-reading. I remember discovering that the electricity meter in a hilltop building that was powering an amateur radio packet repeater would stop. Turning the lights on provided a kick to get it spinning again, but one time I went in using a torch and sure enough, it wasn't registering. I assume that some time after we left, probably as the temperature dropped, friction would win and it would grind to a halt again.

The way to check a meter is to get a 1kW heater, if possible measure it with a voltmeter and ammeter to confirm what it's drawing and then make sure everything else is turned off, check that the meter isn't registering anything (that's often a clue, something is on that you didn't realise) and then run the known 1kW load for a couple of hours and check that the meter bumps up a couple of units. Obviously the longer you can run the test the more accurate you're going to be.

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:23 pm
by om15
I am worried about the exciting new idea from Boris that we will no longer be able to burn coal or wood in our sitting room fires, how are we supposed to keep warm?
Country side dwellers make good use of the wood supply following a storm, we all have chain saws and have piles of wood drying, is this another brilliant Dominic Cummings idea hatched in his centrally heated London flat.
Bonfires are all part of living in the country, it is a means of keeping ourselves tidy, unwanted pallets, settees, mattress's, car tyres are all disposed of in this way, often as part of a social gathering involving cider, what shall we do now?
I really hope this townie fad is ignored, just as the bad on fox hunting is, the last thing we need is this government interference, why don't they concentrate on funding dredging instead.

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:05 pm
by AtomKraft
Just ignore the latest edict.

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:23 pm
by Boac
Maybe we can burn politicians instead?

Re: Climate Disruption.

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:45 pm
by AtomKraft
They only burn well if you put petrol on them.