Chaos in Germany
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Re: Chaos in Germany
As long as they are not a threat to me they are not a threat.
At the risk of causing outrage here, it's the same as NR youths in gangs in UK cities killing each other.
Who cares ?
There were people in Germany during post-war days who, because of their own nefarious deeds, would clamp down on extra-curricular activities which might attract the attention of the Polizei to their own neighbourhood. No doubt today they all vote AfD.
At the risk of causing outrage here, it's the same as NR youths in gangs in UK cities killing each other.
Who cares ?
There were people in Germany during post-war days who, because of their own nefarious deeds, would clamp down on extra-curricular activities which might attract the attention of the Polizei to their own neighbourhood. No doubt today they all vote AfD.
Re: Chaos in Germany
"At the risk of causing outrage here, it's the same as NR youths in gangs in UK cities killing each other."
I don't expect any 'outrage' here but
"Who cares ?" - I think we all should, since both the 'NR' and the 'extreme right' situation will, I think, inevitably lead to an unstable society which would not be in anyone's interest.
I don't expect any 'outrage' here but
"Who cares ?" - I think we all should, since both the 'NR' and the 'extreme right' situation will, I think, inevitably lead to an unstable society which would not be in anyone's interest.
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Re: Chaos in Germany
Unstable societies don't remain so for long (with the exception of the past 200 years in Paris).
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Also in the land of the free, cupcakes, democracy and mom’s apple pie, for a long time the far-right have been recognised by the authorities, discreetly, with being the biggest threat to the Federal government in the USA.
Witness the recent parades by gun-toting NRA and personal freedom fanatics in the media.
The main difference between them and the Wild-Eyed Hairy-Faced Fundamentalists of Islamic persuasion is that the home-brewed WEHFFs openly display their armoury whereas the imported persuasion are forced (by common sense) to keep theirs undercover and hidden.
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All Carnival processions in Hessen have been cancelled today after a car was deliberately driven through barriers to crash into children taking part in a procession in Volkmarsen, Hessen, Germany. Injuries, no deaths. The driver has been taken into custody. Politicians have urged Germans not to speculate on reasons for the attack.
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Re: Chaos in Germany
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In the USA the left-wing is no threat to the establishment, in fact they are a useful distraction for politicians and a source of news for the mainly lefty media. The right-wing is the opposite, rightly or wrongly the right wing is seen as a threat to the excessive and oppressive plans of the Establishment and therefore it must be demonised. The media is happy to go along with this process since it agrees with their agenda.
There are, of course, extreme opinions in any group, you can see this extremism on the left and the right in the US although the examples on the right are reported far more than the examples on the left. The general temperature of the right in the US corresponds to the "Conservative" viewpoint in the UK although there are certain hot-button issues which tend to be more difficult to deal with since they are caused by opposing interpretations of the Constitution.
Since the Constitution enshrines the Freedom of Speech and the Right to Bear Arms I see absolutely no objection to any parade or event at which these freedoms are demonstrated in a peaceful manner and in fact I think it is rather a useful reminder to the Establishment that they had better temper their excesses. Open display of arms and the promise to use use them if necessary is a rather better situation than quietly preparing for revolution. In the former case the Establishment is warned to temper its plans, in the latter the plans are implemented before the explosion occurs.
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In the USA the left-wing is no threat to the establishment, in fact they are a useful distraction for politicians and a source of news for the mainly lefty media. The right-wing is the opposite, rightly or wrongly the right wing is seen as a threat to the excessive and oppressive plans of the Establishment and therefore it must be demonised. The media is happy to go along with this process since it agrees with their agenda.
There are, of course, extreme opinions in any group, you can see this extremism on the left and the right in the US although the examples on the right are reported far more than the examples on the left. The general temperature of the right in the US corresponds to the "Conservative" viewpoint in the UK although there are certain hot-button issues which tend to be more difficult to deal with since they are caused by opposing interpretations of the Constitution.
Since the Constitution enshrines the Freedom of Speech and the Right to Bear Arms I see absolutely no objection to any parade or event at which these freedoms are demonstrated in a peaceful manner and in fact I think it is rather a useful reminder to the Establishment that they had better temper their excesses. Open display of arms and the promise to use use them if necessary is a rather better situation than quietly preparing for revolution. In the former case the Establishment is warned to temper its plans, in the latter the plans are implemented before the explosion occurs.
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Re: Chaos in Germany
Volksmarsen car assault (30 injured, one-third children) turns out not to have been by a Moslem terrorist but by a drunk resident of the town. His partner also drunk, also arrested. So that's all right, then.
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Gangs fighting in Erfurt (D) last night, stabbings, beatings, youths and police in hospital. From the opinions expressed by the cryers of stinking-fish on these threads, you'd think such things only happened in the UK.
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Re: Chaos in Germany
German government now added to the amazingly small list of nations telling their inhabitants not to go to Spanish regions. Only Boris has had the courage to quarantine returnees.
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Ten thousand (?) marching in Berlin right now, not observing distancing, not wearing masks, protesting against governments anti-CV precautions.
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German Court has overturned the order closing restaurants and bars in Berlin. A glimmer of sanity in a crazy world.
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The Court ruled that the government has presented insufficient evidence that closing bars and restaurants at 23:00 would have the effect of preventing transmission of the virus.
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I see the Authorities have closed the second runway at Berlin's new airport, two weeks after the airport was finally opened and ten years after the original date of opening which never happened. Seemingly it's too expensive to maintain in operation in the present climate (or whatever).
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LHR has been on single runway operations for some time.OFSO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:28 amI see the Authorities have closed the second runway at Berlin's new airport, two weeks after the airport was finally opened and ten years after the original date of opening which never happened. Seemingly it's too expensive to maintain in operation in the present climate (or whatever).
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It would be ideal if everyone was happy to live with others who are different to themselves, although the existence of 'Countries' suggest that this has never been the case.
Forcing them all to mix by instituting mass immigration is an interesting experiment.....the results may be out soon.
The catalytic rise (resurgence?) of the far right is just what you'd expect as the temperature in the experiment rises.
I expect that the test tube will pop soon, but maybe all will come out smelling of roses?
Supreme arrogance from our "leaders" like Mutti & Blair, followed by abject failure to even admit there's a problem.
Btw, I'm married to an Indian, and don't object to immigration in principle, but you can have too much of anything. It's the numbers that matter and if the locals start to feel threatened, they will soon feel frightened and action of some kind is sure to follow.
Forcing them all to mix by instituting mass immigration is an interesting experiment.....the results may be out soon.
The catalytic rise (resurgence?) of the far right is just what you'd expect as the temperature in the experiment rises.
I expect that the test tube will pop soon, but maybe all will come out smelling of roses?
Supreme arrogance from our "leaders" like Mutti & Blair, followed by abject failure to even admit there's a problem.
Btw, I'm married to an Indian, and don't object to immigration in principle, but you can have too much of anything. It's the numbers that matter and if the locals start to feel threatened, they will soon feel frightened and action of some kind is sure to follow.
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Re: Chaos in Germany
Just watched Chancellor Merkel on TV. Frantic about the increase in Covid cases in Germany but unable to do anything since it's the responsibility of individual Landes.
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Re: Chaos in Germany
Better than UK
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We need to be fair to Chuks, the situation in Germany is closer to what he described a controlled assimilation with limited incidents and few big events not necessarily caused by recently arrived immigrants. So Mrs Markel is right about needing those immigrants after all.AtomKraft wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:28 pmIt would be ideal if everyone was happy to live with others who are different to themselves, although the existence of 'Countries' suggest that this has never been the case.
Forcing them all to mix by instituting mass immigration is an interesting experiment.....the results may be out soon.
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Rwy in sight.
Now please go on to tell us what are the advantages to the Germans from all that immigration?
Now please go on to tell us what are the advantages to the Germans from all that immigration?
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Re: Chaos in Germany
Well their intelligence for one... NB - The vaccine we are rolling out here in the UK was designed/invented/formulated by two Turkish immigrants in Germany...
https://gulfnews.com/business/meet-the- ... 5093339519
I was scheduled to talk to an Iranian actuary in Hanover Germany at lunch time today (I put off that meeting until next week mind). He is one of the most intelligent and proficient people I have ever met....a Muslim... but more German than the Germans...
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