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Re: Chaos in Germany

#141 Post by OFSO » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:40 pm

As long as they are not a threat to me they are not a threat.

At the risk of causing outrage here, it's the same as NR youths in gangs in UK cities killing each other.

Who cares ?

There were people in Germany during post-war days who, because of their own nefarious deeds, would clamp down on extra-curricular activities which might attract the attention of the Polizei to their own neighbourhood. No doubt today they all vote AfD.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#142 Post by Boac » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:58 pm

"At the risk of causing outrage here, it's the same as NR youths in gangs in UK cities killing each other."
I don't expect any 'outrage' here but
"Who cares ?" - I think we all should, since both the 'NR' and the 'extreme right' situation will, I think, inevitably lead to an unstable society which would not be in anyone's interest.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#143 Post by OFSO » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:02 pm

Unstable societies don't remain so for long (with the exception of the past 200 years in Paris).

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#144 Post by barkingmad » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:57 am

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Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:51 pm
I think you would have got away with that :))

It is beginning to look almost as if the extreme right wingers are becoming as much of a threat as the Muslim fanatics. Probably more so in Germany, and debatable in the rest of the 'free' world.
Also in the land of the free, cupcakes, democracy and mom’s apple pie, for a long time the far-right have been recognised by the authorities, discreetly, with being the biggest threat to the Federal government in the USA.

Witness the recent parades by gun-toting NRA and personal freedom fanatics in the media.
The main difference between them and the Wild-Eyed Hairy-Faced Fundamentalists of Islamic persuasion is that the home-brewed WEHFFs openly display their armoury whereas the imported persuasion are forced (by common sense) to keep theirs undercover and hidden.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#145 Post by OFSO » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:17 pm

All Carnival processions in Hessen have been cancelled today after a car was deliberately driven through barriers to crash into children taking part in a procession in Volkmarsen, Hessen, Germany. Injuries, no deaths. The driver has been taken into custody. Politicians have urged Germans not to speculate on reasons for the attack.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#146 Post by boing » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:59 pm

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In the USA the left-wing is no threat to the establishment, in fact they are a useful distraction for politicians and a source of news for the mainly lefty media. The right-wing is the opposite, rightly or wrongly the right wing is seen as a threat to the excessive and oppressive plans of the Establishment and therefore it must be demonised. The media is happy to go along with this process since it agrees with their agenda.

There are, of course, extreme opinions in any group, you can see this extremism on the left and the right in the US although the examples on the right are reported far more than the examples on the left. The general temperature of the right in the US corresponds to the "Conservative" viewpoint in the UK although there are certain hot-button issues which tend to be more difficult to deal with since they are caused by opposing interpretations of the Constitution.

Since the Constitution enshrines the Freedom of Speech and the Right to Bear Arms I see absolutely no objection to any parade or event at which these freedoms are demonstrated in a peaceful manner and in fact I think it is rather a useful reminder to the Establishment that they had better temper their excesses. Open display of arms and the promise to use use them if necessary is a rather better situation than quietly preparing for revolution. In the former case the Establishment is warned to temper its plans, in the latter the plans are implemented before the explosion occurs.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#147 Post by OFSO » Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:04 pm

Volksmarsen car assault (30 injured, one-third children) turns out not to have been by a Moslem terrorist but by a drunk resident of the town. His partner also drunk, also arrested. So that's all right, then.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#148 Post by OFSO » Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:14 pm

Gangs fighting in Erfurt (D) last night, stabbings, beatings, youths and police in hospital. From the opinions expressed by the cryers of stinking-fish on these threads, you'd think such things only happened in the UK.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#149 Post by OFSO » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:48 pm

German government now added to the amazingly small list of nations telling their inhabitants not to go to Spanish regions. Only Boris has had the courage to quarantine returnees.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#150 Post by OFSO » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:13 pm

Ten thousand (?) marching in Berlin right now, not observing distancing, not wearing masks, protesting against governments anti-CV precautions.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#151 Post by OFSO » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:21 pm

German Court has overturned the order closing restaurants and bars in Berlin. A glimmer of sanity in a crazy world.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#152 Post by OFSO » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:48 pm

The Court ruled that the government has presented insufficient evidence that closing bars and restaurants at 23:00 would have the effect of preventing transmission of the virus.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#153 Post by OFSO » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:28 am

I see the Authorities have closed the second runway at Berlin's new airport, two weeks after the airport was finally opened and ten years after the original date of opening which never happened. Seemingly it's too expensive to maintain in operation in the present climate (or whatever).

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#154 Post by Woody » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:08 pm

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Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:28 am
I see the Authorities have closed the second runway at Berlin's new airport, two weeks after the airport was finally opened and ten years after the original date of opening which never happened. Seemingly it's too expensive to maintain in operation in the present climate (or whatever).
LHR has been on single runway operations for some time.
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#155 Post by AtomKraft » Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:28 pm

It would be ideal if everyone was happy to live with others who are different to themselves, although the existence of 'Countries' suggest that this has never been the case.

Forcing them all to mix by instituting mass immigration is an interesting experiment.....the results may be out soon.

The catalytic rise (resurgence?) of the far right is just what you'd expect as the temperature in the experiment rises.

I expect that the test tube will pop soon, but maybe all will come out smelling of roses?

Supreme arrogance from our "leaders" like Mutti & Blair, followed by abject failure to even admit there's a problem.

Btw, I'm married to an Indian, and don't object to immigration in principle, but you can have too much of anything. It's the numbers that matter and if the locals start to feel threatened, they will soon feel frightened and action of some kind is sure to follow.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#156 Post by OFSO » Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:12 pm

Just watched Chancellor Merkel on TV. Frantic about the increase in Covid cases in Germany but unable to do anything since it's the responsibility of individual Landes.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#157 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:26 pm

Better than UK

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#158 Post by Rwy in Sight » Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:27 am

AtomKraft wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:28 pm
It would be ideal if everyone was happy to live with others who are different to themselves, although the existence of 'Countries' suggest that this has never been the case.

Forcing them all to mix by instituting mass immigration is an interesting experiment.....the results may be out soon.
We need to be fair to Chuks, the situation in Germany is closer to what he described a controlled assimilation with limited incidents and few big events not necessarily caused by recently arrived immigrants. So Mrs Markel is right about needing those immigrants after all.

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Re: Chaos in Germany

#159 Post by AtomKraft » Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:08 pm

Rwy in sight.
Now please go on to tell us what are the advantages to the Germans from all that immigration?

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#160 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:01 pm

AtomKraft wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 2:08 pm
Rwy in sight.
Now please go on to tell us what are the advantages to the Germans from all that immigration?
Well their intelligence for one... NB - The vaccine we are rolling out here in the UK was designed/invented/formulated by two Turkish immigrants in Germany...

https://gulfnews.com/business/meet-the- ... 5093339519

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I was scheduled to talk to an Iranian actuary in Hanover Germany at lunch time today (I put off that meeting until next week mind). He is one of the most intelligent and proficient people I have ever met....a Muslim... but more German than the Germans...

I could go on... ;)))
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