Project Fear
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Project Fear
A home for ludicrous suggestions of likely calamities post-Brexit.....
My contribution (probably posted elsewhere) but so what.....
Reported: A committee representing European Airports has called on the EU Commission, stating that after a no-deal Brexit, they will not be able to cope with passengers departing to / arriving from the UK due to 'additional formalities'.
Fact: The UK is not a member of the Schengen Treaty, so all departing / arriving passengers are already treated as if they were departing from / arriving in the European Union.
Next outrageous report please.....
My contribution (probably posted elsewhere) but so what.....
Reported: A committee representing European Airports has called on the EU Commission, stating that after a no-deal Brexit, they will not be able to cope with passengers departing to / arriving from the UK due to 'additional formalities'.
Fact: The UK is not a member of the Schengen Treaty, so all departing / arriving passengers are already treated as if they were departing from / arriving in the European Union.
Next outrageous report please.....
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Re: Project Fear
EU citizens can travel anywhere in the EU, it is non-EU citizens to which Schengen applies.
EU citizens can travel within the EU without passports, they just need a 'suitable ID document'. UK does NOT have ID document! In this case a passport is 'acceptable'!
EU citizens can travel within the EU without passports, they just need a 'suitable ID document'. UK does NOT have ID document! In this case a passport is 'acceptable'!
Cynicism improves with age
Re: Project Fear
The massive problem with Schengen is that once the invaders get in via Italy, Spain, or Greece, those being the main point of ingress, they have free circulation within the Schengen 'borderless' area. Fortunately the police in 3 or 4 countries are not too cowardly to stop people of dark appearance and check for documentation.
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Re: Project Fear
The tragedy is that all these gay electricians with 5 years experience (which I understand 80% of them say they are) can't get jobs because they are all children.
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Re: Project Fear
Fox3, there may be an appropriate Darwinian outcome to that . . . .
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Re: Project Fear
The Met is eliminating the menace of Brazilian electricians, one by one.
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I didn't know one had to be gay to be an electrician. Glad I was brought up in electronics & telecoms.
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Re: Project Fear
Our electrician is also our plumber.
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Both trades are combined in Spain. Sometimes with being a funeral director.
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So if some Spaniard electrocutes himself trying to fix a burst water tank, it's a one-stop shop to fix all the problems?
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Never been known to fix a burst water tank. They just fit new ones.
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Fox - I must be missing a post or two? How on earth did we get to 'gay electricians' on a Schengen thread??? Did you get your wires crossed?
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Large numbers of migrants a couple of years back were describing themselves as gay electricians, having been advised to do so by the socialists helping them, as this gave them the highest chance of being accepted into Germany or the UK under the admission policies then in place. The gay bit meant they could claim to be at risk of oppression/execution if returned, and electricians were the most desired trade.
Re: Project Fear
We don't have any gay electricians in our Thailand town (that I know of) but I suspect my wife's pretty gym instructress is a lezzo. Caught her once pashing on the street with another nube.
Re: Project Fear
UK readies flotilla plan for supplies in no-deal Brexit - https://www.ft.com/content/f853b544-d6c ... d6f82e62f8 via @FT
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Paywall, Jim.
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https://www.ft.com/content/17f932c0-d22 ... 74db66bcd5
France and Italy are offering the most generous tax breaks to London bankers moving to the European continent after Brexit, research compiled for the Financial Times shows.
The findings shed light on how aggressively EU countries are seeking to grab a share of the few thousands of banking jobs that will shift to the EU when the UK leaves the bloc next year. While France’s tax gifts are part of wider efforts in recent years to fix its reputation as a hostile fiscal environment for wealthy individuals, Germany is not dangling any tax carrots.
Some relocations have already begun: Goldman Sachs has moved 60 per cent of the investment bankers and financing experts it intends to ship from London to Milan, Frankfurt and Paris. Bank of America’s post-Brexit EU operations will be headquartered in Dublin and over the summer it announced a new Paris office likely to house around 400 staff. In total, the Bank of England predicts the City of London could lose about 5,000 financial services jobs as Brexit unfolds.
Bankers heading to the continent could pay less in income tax and social security than they would in the UK by taking advantage of juicy tax cuts, according to simulations prepared by consultancy firm PwC for the FT.
In terms of net take-home pay, the most beneficial locations for expats are Italy and France, while the least beneficial country is Germany, as a result of no additional expatriate or travel deductions.
A UK expat in France with an income of €1m including allowances could take home more than €180,000 extra than that person would at home. A move to Italy could mean an extra €200,000 in net pay.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... warns.html
The Mail gives a lot of space to the BOE chief's statement.
The Mail gives a lot of space to the BOE chief's statement.
The Bank of England has warned the pound would crash, inflation will soar and interest rates would have to rise in the event of a no deal disorderly Brexit.
Bank Governor Mark Carney said the impact of Brexit would depend entirely on whether there was a deal but said he had a duty to spell out what might happen.
Mr Carney said the Bank's job was not to 'hope for the best but prepare for the worst' - but his blood-curdling claims will enrage Brexiteers.
The figures are contained in a 'worst case scenario' published by the Bank which suggests in a last-minute no deal, no transition Brexit Britain's GDP could plunge rapidly by 8 per cent - much worse than the 2008 financial crisis.
Mr Carney's chilling intervention on the short term impact of no deal comes hours after a Government analysis revealed that in all scenarios, the UK will be poorer 15 years after it leaves the EU than it would have been without Brexit.
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