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Re: Chaos in France

#121 Post by barkingmad » Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:46 am

Sunday morning cornflakes spoiled by reports that significant ATC delays via France & Spain possibly due to an IT outage?

Or are they exercising their muscle as no-deal Brexit approaches.........?

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Re: Chaos in France

#122 Post by Rwy in Sight » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:23 am

barkingmad wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:46 am
Sunday morning cornflakes spoiled by reports that significant ATC delays via France & Spain possibly due to an IT outage?

Or are they exercising their muscle as no-deal Brexit approaches.........?
They plan to run for a moth the procedures they would use in that event.

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Re: Chaos in France

#123 Post by OFSO » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:44 am

Why should they not have 'delays' ? After all they have not gone on strike this summer...

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#124 Post by Capetonian » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:41 am

The most recent Eurostat data, from 2015, shows that more women are killed each year in France than in Britain, Netherlands, Italy or Spain.
No comment is appropriate.

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#125 Post by OFSO » Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:01 pm

Surprising, that. 2019 has been a bumper year for knocking off Spanish wives. Big outrage currently. Spanish residents tell me the figures don't reflect reality as it's "all immigrants beating their wives to death" and that doesn't count.

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Re: Chaos in France

#126 Post by OFSO » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:29 pm

From January 1st 2019 income tax has to be deducted at source by the employer or former employer from wages and pensions and paid directly to the French authorities. Nobody who dreamed up the regulations thought about persons living in France but working for or having worked for international governmental organisations. The French tax authorities are not responding to queries. The international governmental organisations say "we haven't been asked". Most amusing.

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#127 Post by Capetonian » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:42 pm

The inimitable Jeremy Clarkson on form.

Don’t worry, be happy. It works in every other nation that’s a thinly disguised walking disaster by Jeremy Clarkson - The Sunday Times

Have you wondered recently how the country is still functioning? There’s a very real possibility that in the coming months we will end up with a ragtag government led by a raving Marxist. Absolutely no one knows what laws will apply on November 1. Businesses are stuck. No one’s buying houses. And every bit of grain harvested in the past couple of weeks must be exported out of the country before Brexit. Which won’t be possible if it rains, because then it couldn’t be loaded onto the ships. If you add all of this up, sprinkle in the low pound and add a dash of uncertainty about what sinister forces are running the nation’s unregistered schools, you’d run around in small circles and emit a scream that went on for such a long time, you’d need to take a deep breath halfway through. The thing is, though, that things are worse in other parts of the world. Brazil. Venezuela. India. Even Greece. And yet it’s still possible to lead a fairly normal life in any of these places. DP Or what about South Africa? The previous government endorsed a policy of taking land from white farmers and giving it . . . to themselves.

Everyone knows what happened when Robert Mugabe did the exact same thing in Zimbabwe. The skilled farmers fled and food production plummeted by 60%. Today in South Africa, though, the land grab is going ahead, there’s almost 30% unemployment, you are more likely to be murdered than to die in a car crash and more than 25% of men questioned in a survey said they had committed rape, nearly half of them more than once. But it’s still a jolly place on the surface, full of happy people who’ll take you into their home and lob a bit of beef on the barbecue. Despite everything, then, society still seems to work. Then there’s America. Forget about Donald Trump and the wall and the fact that everyone has a machinegun. The thing that always surprises me when I go to the States is how often you see a fully fledged lunatic wandering about in the traffic, with his trousers round his ankles and a mouth that looks like an archaeological dig. They don’t seem to have any mental health programme over there, and yet people still get up and go to work and stop off on the way home for a beer as though nothing’s wrong at all.

Things are even more puzzling in France. I’ve just spent a couple of weeks in the Dordogne, and after a day or two it became apparent that every single business is shut when you need it. And then, when you don’t need it, it’s still shut. We found a lovely riverside restaurant and thought it’d be nice to have some cheese and wine as the sun went down. Nope. Even though it was a lovely evening in August, it had shut at 4pm. Petrol? No, sorry. So what about a sports bar where we could watch Chelsea play Leicester? Yes, there was such a thing, but it opened at the precise moment the game ended. Changing money at a bank? You’re having a laugh. The bank opening hours are: never. We went one day to a vineyard, where the owner explained that by law he is not allowed to water or spray his vines. Think about that. He is actually banned, by the state, from doing any work. There are similar issues with the civil service. Carefully crafted rules mean that if you work for the government, even for a few moments as a teenager, you will be paid an inflation-linked salary for the rest of your life. It was discovered recently that 30 state employees had been receiving full pay even though their jobs had been phased out in 1989. One had his own restaurant and had been questioned about whether this was compatible with his non-existent government job. But still the salary kept on coming. Then there was the railway employee who was paid £4,500 a month for a year, despite not working a single day. And the “general director of services” at SainteSavine town hall in eastern France who trousered £450,000 over a decade for doing nothing at all. DP And, of course, if any steps are taken to do something about this, the autoroutes are suddenly full of burning sheeps, Calais is blockaded, there’s manure all over the Elysée Palace and the president is delivering a resignation speech covered in egg and effluent. But as I drifted down the Dordogne in a kayak I’d rented (from a Scouser), past all the shut hotels and locked bars, I didn’t see any turds, the bridges appeared to be well maintained and the villages were idiotically pretty. So even though everyone’s being paid to sit at home smoking French Women and playing boules, it still seems to work as a country. And it’s still, amazingly, the sixthbiggest economy in the world. All of which brings me on to the eighth-biggest. Italy. A wise man told me the other day that the economic situation facing the British was serious but not disastrous. Whereas the economic situation facing the Italians was disastrous but not serious. And that seems to sum it all up. The Italians know that everything is corrupt and broken and that their leaders are hopeless and on the take, but they have learnt to just get on with it.

It’s what we need to do. Hang on to the general sense of wellbeing that you had last weekend, when the sun was blazing and we’d won a game of cricket and someone was bringing you another glass of chilled rosé. Were you worried about unlicensed sharia schools then? Or what Boris Johnson was up to in Biarritz? Or interest rates? No, because when you’re happy, interest rates are actually not interesting at all. The alternative to doing this is to strive for a more ordered, cleaner society where everything works and the grass verges are mown and there’s no corruption and no tramps and no one is stabbed. But if you do this, you’ll end up with Switzerland, and no one wants that.

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Re: Chaos in France

#128 Post by Rwy in Sight » Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:54 am

I am not sure how we missed it -maybe we consider it as routine by now

Another attack not terrorist related obviously

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Re: Chaos in France

#129 Post by OFSO » Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:23 am

At first it was just ordinary, "police worker loses his cool with colleagues" murders. Then someone noticed his black beard, nose, and mad staring eyes and remembered his ranting about Jews and Christians....

These after all the Parisian police. Nothing escapes their notice....

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#130 Post by Rwy in Sight » Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:49 am

Regarding police: I don't know if the police are lazy (a natural tendency) or they are to told to be lazy by the government to avoid unpleasant announcements.

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Re: Chaos in France

#131 Post by OFSO » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:44 am

Huge demos in Paris yesterday, bigger than the gilets jeune demos, against new governmental policy of free IVF for all including single, over age or lesbian ladies. Streets blocked, marching, flag-waving. Not a mention on British TV, which seems obsessed with telling viewers how much worse things are in the UK than elsewhere.

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#132 Post by Rwy in Sight » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:43 am

Not a really critically issue over a long term: as France will turn to islamic republic that measures will be suspended in the first week.

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Re: Chaos in France

#133 Post by OFSO » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:07 pm

Macron's post-fire proclamation that the cathedral of Nôtre Dame would be restored "in six months" always looked absurd. As were the promises of donations, the majority of which have not materialised. Latest estimates, if the remaining structure is sound (which somehow still isn't known, and a week ago neighbouring streets were closed for fear of falling masonry) are that it might reopen for worship in 2025. The Vicar General is complaining of "sullen workmen" which will not help.

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#134 Post by BenThere » Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:11 pm

Thanks for the paste, Captonian. Profound!

As for Notre-Dame, if the French converted it into a Mosque it would be fully repaired tout-suite.

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Re: Chaos in France

#135 Post by ian16th » Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:40 pm

Cynicism improves with age

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#136 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:16 pm

Netflix's 'The King' is anti-French nonsense that flatters a war criminal, says director of Agincourt museum
and the king’s cold-blooded execution of his French prisoners glossed over, despite them having “their throats slit and heads crushed with sledgehammers” or “faces slashed with daggers”.
And the fact that the French raised the Oriflamme before the battle, indicating they would take no prisoners, seems to have been forgotten by the French, and The Telegraph, completely.

They also raised the Oriflamme before Crecy and Poitiers. They kind of got the message after Agincourt, put the Oriflamme (well, a copy, since the English captured it) up to rot in St Denis, and adopted the white flag as the French national battle standard (really!) =))

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#137 Post by OFSO » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:19 pm

At today's Armistice Memorial for the French dead of two wars, Macron attacked the 'European Project' which, he says, has lost its way as a trading block and military power. Listening to him speak about the EU, I am surprised he didn't invite Nigel Farage to be there alongside him.

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#138 Post by OFSO » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:44 pm

France 24 news Right This Minute: French hospital staff demonstrating/protesting today November 14th everwhere in France against inefficient health system, and demanding urgent reforms.

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Re: Chaos in France

#139 Post by OFSO » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:10 am

Fifth December: General Strike planned for France. Organisers: Gillet Jeunes. Tickets on sale from Monday.

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Re: Chaos in France

#140 Post by Capetonian » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:27 pm

The title says it all:

Uncertainty, inequality, fragility: why France is a country at war with itself

Ahem .....cough .... it's the Grauniad :
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rlie-hebdo

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