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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1081 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:47 am

I see that the wee twunt has had to back down on her crazy edict that travel between Scotland and Manchester is verboten.

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1082 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:39 pm

Video of wee Jimmy and the Boss at Holyrood in the Telegraph. Did I mishear HMQ saying keep your distance?

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#1083 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:48 pm

Vertical? Or slant range?

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#1084 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:58 pm

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Bear in mind, folks, that the WHO definition of an epidemic "out of control" is 50 per 100,000. Now go back and look at those numbers. Read and inwardly digest.

And still the Scowegian gumment keeps the pubs open to spread the infection further and faster.

Go figure.

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#1085 Post by G-CPTN » Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:02 pm

A total of 1,991 Covid-19 cases in Scotland have been linked to fans watching Euro 2020 football matches.
Public Health Scotland (PHS) said nearly two-thirds of these cases – 1,294 people – reported travelling to London to watch Scotland v England on June 18.
A total of 397 of these were fans at the game at Wembley Stadium.

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#1086 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:23 pm

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#1087 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:54 pm

Four hundred and fifty fuxake!

At what point does this become taken seriously?

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#1088 Post by AtomKraft » Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:37 am

I'm glad EDI has a good dose.
That'll teach the miserable bastards.

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#1089 Post by CharlieOneSix » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:40 pm

More than 3000 new cases a day in Scotland for a few days recently, 2363 today. Numbers in hospital have more than doubled. All bad news so Wee Krankie has kept out of the limelight for days now, if not for more than a week - not a peep from her when it's all bad news. In September 2020 it was 15.4 cases per 100,000 people in Scotland. Now it's 420.1 per 100,000. Just down the road in NHS Tayside the rate is 1,146 per 100,000. Scotland has Europe's highest Covid-19 infection rates.

I think the Sturgeon woman has changed her name to Ash Barty and is playing tennis at Wimbledon rather than dealing with Covid......
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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1090 Post by FD2 » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:04 pm

What a pity people can't see the wee twerp for what she is. Hatred stirred up against Westminster Toaries trumps gross incompetence on education, health, ferry building :)) etc etc.

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1091 Post by Undried Plum » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:08 pm

And still they keep the pubs and restaurants open.

"Following the science": my arse!

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#1092 Post by bob2s » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:15 pm

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Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:40 pm
More than 3000 new cases a day in Scotland for a few days recently, 2363 today. Numbers in hospital have more than doubled. All bad news so Wee Krankie has kept out of the limelight for days now, if not for more than a week - not a peep from her when it's all bad news. In September 2020 it was 15.4 cases per 100,000 people in Scotland. Now it's 420.1 per 100,000. Just down the road in NHS Tayside the rate is 1,146 per 100,000. Scotland has Europe's highest Covid-19 infection rates.

I think the Sturgeon woman has changed her name to Ash Barty and is playing tennis at Wimbledon rather than dealing with Covid......
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Jeez,don't compare that screeching harridan to Ash Barty as Ash has more of a personality than The Krankie one could ever muster.

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#1093 Post by FD2 » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:19 pm

Krankie is just a one trick pony.

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#1094 Post by llondel » Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:09 am

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Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:08 pm
And still they keep the pubs and restaurants open.

"Following the science": my arse!
Following it at a suitable distance so as not to be affected by it.

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#1095 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:39 am

I hate the fact that in only half a decade the SNP has dragged Scottish education attainments down from being among the highest in Europe to being among the lowest.

Scotland was once a world leader in Science and industrial inventions. Now what?

I occasionally teach astronomy to a very bright 11 year-old. It's horrendous to hear her telling me the version of History that's now being taught in Secondary school. She had no idea how the UK was formed until I explained it to her. She'd been taught that it was something to do with William Wallace and Edward the First and Culloden. She had no idea that the first stage of the formation of the Union, that of the Crowns, involved a Scottish King riding South from Scotland to London at the head of two armies. One was a military army and the other was an army of clerks and administrators of law-draughting lawyers who took over the governance of England. She'd no idea why Scotland Yard has that name. She thought it was a police station.

She had no idea that the second stage, the Union of the Parliaments a hundred years later, was instigated at the request of the greedy landowning rich people who were the "Estates of Scotland" ie the Scottish parliamentarians. She'd never heard of the Darien Scheme or how it was that the greedy Scottish parliamentarians bankrupted the 'nation' and asked for an English bribe to sell out to the UK and abolish their parliament in Edinburgh while taking up lucrative positions in London.

There's a horrendous audio clip floating around the internet. I don't know which Scottish primary school it was, but you can hear the kids repetitively chanting " Scotland Independent. We are William Wallace. Scotland Independent. We are William Wallace. Scotland Independent. We are William Wallace. Scotland Independent. We are William Wallace.".

By way of an example, here's a slide shown in a Modern History class to P6 pupils:

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Bear in mind that SNP has lowered the voting age in Scotland from 18 to 16.

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1096 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:02 pm

Surely that should be in PPE not history, ancient or modern.




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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1097 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:56 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:02 pm
Surely that should be in PPE not history, ancient or modern.

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Crossover to every politzeimann being given a degree upon graduation from Tulliallan.

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#1098 Post by Woody » Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:03 am

Here’s something for UP to look forward to seeing :)

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#1099 Post by om15 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:28 pm

Police have now launched (belatedly) a full investigation into missing funds within the SNP, £600,000 is missing and there is no convincing explanation of where it might be. This will be very interesting to see how the SNP will wriggle out of this one.

A spokesperson for Police Scotland said a full investigation had now been launched into the allegations after seven complaints were made in relation to financial donations to the SNP.

The spokesperson said: "Police Scotland has now received seven complaints in relation to donations that were made to the Scottish National Party.

"After assessment and consultation with the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service, we will now carry out an investigation.



edited to add that I am sure there is a simple explanation and there has been no financial impropriety at all, by anyone, at all.

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#1100 Post by FD2 » Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:30 am

Nicola Sturgeon 'misled' Parliament over Donald Trump probe, court told


First Minister Nicola Sturgeon ‘misled’ Parliament when she said the Scottish Government couldn’t launch a money laundering probe against former US President Donald Trump, a court has heard.
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Wednesday, 14th July 2021, 5:29 pm


Advocate Aidan O’Neill QC told judge Lord Sandison on Wednesday that Ms Sturgeon didn’t understand the law on a form of investigation called Unexplained Wealth Orders.

The Court of Session heard how the Holyrood administration was asked last year to investigate how the Trump Organisation managed to pay for golf course developments in Scotland.

The government was told it could use an ‘Unexplained Wealth Order’ to investigate Mr Trump’s finances.

Scottish Parliament to hold vote on Unexplained Wealth Order into Donald Trump's...

But Ms Sturgeon told the Scottish Parliament the government couldn’t launch such a probe and the responsibility for the investigation lay with the Crown Office’s Civil Recovery Unit.

Mr O’Neill told the court that Ms Sturgeon said the Civil Recovery Unit was politically independent from the Scottish Government.

The lawyer said the government’s position later changed. He said the-then justice secretary Humza Yousaf later announced the law allowed for the Scottish Government to launch an Unexplained Wealth Order investigation.

Mr O’Neill told the court that Mr Yousaf was correct – the law allowed for Scottish ministers to launch such a probe.

He said Ms Sturgeon failed to understand the law and that it was “worrying” that she didn’t have a proper understanding of the legislation.

Mr O’Neill, who is asking for permission from the court for a judicial review that he hopes would overturn the Scottish Government’s refusal to launch an unexplained wealth order against Mr Trump, added: “We know that the First Minister initially said in July 2020 that any decision on whether to apply for an Unexplained Wealth Order is made on behalf of the Scottish ministers by the Civil Recovery Unit which reports to the Lord Advocate.

“Now, there is all sorts which could be unpacked from that – the legislation states that it is the responsibility of the Scottish ministers.

“But that was the position stated in July 2020. Now that has shifted markedly in November 2020 when we see that the First Minister said to Parliament the decision on whether to apply for the Unexplained Wealth Order was not for the ministers. It was instead for the Crown Office who operate independently from the Scottish ministers.

“That’s just wrong and that was pointed out to them. In the answers, they say ‘yes, that was just wrong’.

“We then get a different position when this time it’s the Cabinet secretary for justice speaking – Humza Yousaf.

“He now concedes that the power to ask for an Unexplained Wealth Order does formally lie for the Scottish ministers.

“But he says it is for the Civil Recovery Unit to independently undertake an investigatory role on behalf of the Scottish ministers and this must not be subject to any form of political interference.

“Again it’s a shifting position.

“Strangely, the First Minister didn’t understand the law and misled Parliament on that point. That’s actually significant and worrying for if they have misunderstood the law once and they are in error there’s every likelihood- unless they get proper guidance from the court – that they could do so again.”

Mr O’Neill was speaking during a hearing on Wednesday which concerns how Mr Trump obtained the funding for the Menie golf course in Aberdeenshire and the Turnberry resort in Ayrshire.

He is acting for Avaaz – an international human rights group that is seeking to force the government to reverse its decision not to investigate the courses' funding.

The Scottish Green Party first called for an ‘Unexplained Wealth Order’ in February amid questions about how Mr Trump had managed to finance the purchases of the courses at Turnberry in 2014 and at Menie In 2006.

The UK Government introduced the orders in 2018 to help investigations into money laundering and other criminal financial activity.

Patrick Harvie, the Greens co-leader, has said Mr Trump's unusual pattern of spending and the ongoing civil and criminal cases in the US provided Scottish authorities with the grounds to investigate the businessman.

Mr Trump's son Eric said the claims had "no basis in fact".

He accused Mr Harvie of making "disgusting statements" that were "reckless, irresponsible and unbecoming for a member of the Scottish Parliament”.

On Wednesday, Mr O’Neill said that recent developments in the United States provided the Scottish Government with grounds to investigate Mr Trump.

He said the Trump Organisation’s former chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg had been charged in New York with alleged tax evasion and fraud.

Mr O’Neill said Mr Weisselberg had involvement with Mr Trump’s business interests in Scotland.

The advocate also said that EU law on money laundering allowed ‘politically exposed’ people such as Mr Trump – and their close associates – to be investigated.

He added: “Documents lodged at Companies House reveal that there are significant assets owned by corporate entities in Scotland. It is clear that they linked to the Trump Organisation and various individuals are listed as having a significant interest.”

Ruth Crawford QC said the law surrounding judicial reviews meant that matters had to be raised at the court within three months of the decision being passed.

She said Mr O’Neill’s clients hadn’t acted within three months of the Scottish Government’s refusal and the matter shouldn’t proceed.

Ms Crawford also said Mr O’Neill had misunderstood the law surrounding Unexplained Wealth Orders and the Scottish Government had acted lawfully.

Urging Lord Sandison not to grant Mr O’Neill’s client permission to have a judicial review, Ms Crawford added: “Such an issue is not justiciable. It has no real prospect of success.”

Lord Sandison said he needed time to consider his decision.

He told the lawyers: “I won’t give a decision at this point in time. A decision will be issued very shortly, within the scope of the next few days..”


She wouldn't dare would she? Carp all she likes about Westminster and the Toaries but dare criticise Chump - nae never - wetting herself in case he launches a few salvoes against her perhaps.

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