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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#721 Post by Undried Plum » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:50 pm

****!!

Sumbdy gets it.

Full marks for that precis, Atom. :-bd :YMAPPLAUSE: ^:)^

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#722 Post by Undried Plum » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:59 pm

FD2 wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:48 pm
A Very Good Summary of Salmond's Evidence, from the Telegraph so in full:

Alex Salmond offers a masterclass in how to harm your enemies with surgical precision



This was unmistakable ‘keyhole surgery', which made the final filleting all the more potent.



Brilliant prose from the 'graph! :D :YMAPPLAUSE:

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#723 Post by AtomKraft » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:08 pm

Cheers Plum.
Must say it's taken me a while, and I bet most folk still don't understand it.

I know from your posts that there is a lot more to it, re the Police etc, but I think my short summary illustrates the wickedness quite nicely.

I should say, I've slapped a few hostie arses in my time, but not recently.....😱

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#724 Post by k3k3 » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:05 pm

AtomKraft wrote:
Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:08 pm
Cheers Plum.
Must say it's taken me a while, and I bet most folk still don't understand it.

I know from your posts that there is a lot more to it, re the Police etc, but I think my short summary illustrates the wickedness quite nicely.

I should say, I've slapped a few hostie arses in my time, but not recently.....😱
So long as it wasn't on Air SNP you should get away with it.

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#725 Post by Undried Plum » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:26 pm

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Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:08 pm
I've slapped a few hostie arses in my time, but not recently.....😱
This thing was never about a wee bit of slap-arse.

This was was an outright political assassination, or attempt at so, by one head of a putative 'nation' of another who was perceived as being a threat to her position within that hive.

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#726 Post by AtomKraft » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:56 pm

Correctamundo.

A fcuking disgrace.

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#727 Post by G-CPTN » Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:42 am

And there was cost to the state and worry to Salmond.

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#728 Post by Undried Plum » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:21 am

The SNP is in deep shite.

The Party is split. Not top to bottom as happened in 1979, but top from bottom.

The high heidyins know that Scotland dodged a bullet economically when we decided not to detach ourselves from Westminster's hind tit. If we'd chosen to cast ourselves adrift into the North Atlantic we'd have become a cold-water Cuba and we'd be buggered financially for generations. They know that. They've seen the books.

The bulk of the ordinary members of the Party want to have an infinite number of IndyRefs until they get the result they want. A bit like flipping a coin as many times as it takes for it to fall head-up.

That's an unbridgeable gap because the high heidyins have got their snouts in the trough so deeply that they won't willingly let go. They've got the huge salaries and the gold-plated pensions and the gumnent limos and the flunkies. Above all, they've got Power. Lots and lots of Power. That's what floats their boat. They don't want to rock that boat.

Scotland's political and governmental infrastructure is hopelessly corrupted. Salmond is partly responsible for that as it was he who concentrated so much power into the hands of the First Minister when he was that pair of hands.

What is the solution to the chronic problem of the SNP and of the governance of Scotland?

I think three things need to happen.

First, Westminster should funnel the vast Billions of subsidy money directly to Councils and not to the central one-Party state. Councils are still democratically run. The pygmy parliament and the Leith Numptorium are manifestly not democratic at all. They are a family firm run by Mrs and Mrs Murrell in the style of Mr and Mrs Ceausescue or of an Arab king or sultan.

Second, the conspirators, and I think we already know who the top half dozen are, should be sacked.

Third, they need to get Salmond back into the sheep-pen. He has learned his lesson. He now knows that concentrating so much power into the hands of a rather small and apparently unassailable clique was a mistake. He will separate the powers of the Lord Advocate's position into two separate roles. One will be Chief Prosecutor. The other will be Chief Legal advisor to the Government. He will make senior civil servants accountable to parliament, not merely to the First Minister. He will make the Crown accountable to parliament instead the the status quo which is the other way around.

These are non-trivial reforms. They are vital if we are not to sink further into the morass of a nazionalsocialist state.

I think he could restore respectability and credibility to the pygmy parliament and to the Scottish Government. Currently, those both of those institutions have neither.

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#729 Post by AtomKraft » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:42 am

Salmond will likely prevail in the current spat, but after that??? I don't see him back in the fold.

He's had a finger in too many pies, if you know what I mean.

Pie fingering isn't seen the way it once was....

But the SNP are definitely in it but deep and it might be a swamp so deep that only Westminster can drain it....

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#730 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:23 pm

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Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:42 am
Salmond will likely prevail in the current spat, but after that??? I don't see him back in the fold.

He's had a finger in too many pies, if you know what I mean.

Pie fingering isn't seen the way it once was....

But the SNP are definitely in it but deep and it might be a swamp so deep that only Westminster can drain it....
Can a swamp drain a swamp?

As for fish pies, who would want to finger a Sturgeon? =))
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#731 Post by ian16th » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:29 pm

AtomKraft wrote:
Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:42 am
Salmond will likely prevail in the current spat, but after that??? I don't see him back in the fold.

He's had a finger in too many pies, if you know what I mean.

Pie fingering isn't seen the way it once was....

But the SNP are definitely in it but deep and it might be a swamp so deep that only Westminster can drain it....
Wouldn't this be seen as interference by the hated English?
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#732 Post by AtomKraft » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:58 pm

Ian16th.
Yep.
But I think people, even supporters of independence like me, are beginning to realise that the SNP are a big part of the problem and more importantly quite unable to fix themselves.
Nicola has absolute power in Scotland, and she's behaving like the leader of Soviet Russia. She does what she wants, and ruthlessly suppresses criticism.

I want independence for Scotland, but not so we can be controlled by Pol Pots' younger sister....Bam.

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The Aberdein evidence is now out of the bag - Wow!

#733 Post by Undried Plum » Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:00 am

https://archive.fo/rCWga

She's beyond being buggered. She's well and truly **** like her woofter partner never could do for her.

Time for her to piss off to Brussels with her Auchterarder girlfriend; and trouble us nae maer.

She's now where Tony B Liar was a few years ago. Filthy rich, just raking in the money and occasionally popping up to the surface like a gaseous and malodorous Thames Trout - or a Clyde equivalent.

She's just a piece o' shite.

Jimmy Wolffe can sue me for saying so, but he'll go down into the bog if he does.

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#734 Post by CharlieOneSix » Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:39 pm

The wee Krankie was conspicuous by her absence at the daily 1215 Covid briefing today. In normal times she would have been there, patting herself on the back on the advances made in the Covid fight as it's apparently the first anniversary of her maiden Covid-19 speech. No doubt she wanted to avoid any awkward questions that were Salmond related.
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#735 Post by om15 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:03 pm

I think that she is back tomorrow, however Wednesday will be sold out when she is under the spotlight at the inquiry. A casual glance at the Scottish papers this morning indicates that people are becoming aware of just how big this might get, talk of SNP big wigs on the way out, but still a school of thought that Sturgeon might talk her way out of it.
Interestingly support for independence has dropped, but the SNP are still on line for a slender majority at the May elections, but a lot can happen before then.
Wednesday could be a good day.

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#736 Post by AtomKraft » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:37 pm

You don't often hear about Scottish Independence supporters changing their minds, but must admit I'm close to reversing my support.
It's not that I wouldn't like to see an Independent Scotland, I would.
The thing is that I'm beginning to realise that achieving independence under the power-crazed, loony-left, control-freak SNP would lead to Scotland arriving in a dreadful situation.

The lefty rot has gone too deep. It needs to be excised before we should consider separation.

I suspect support for independence will slip dramatically in the next few weeks as the penny drops for more folk like me.

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#737 Post by om15 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:50 pm

The successful vaccine programme saving Scottish lives was created by the Tories, the vast amount of money being sent over the border is coming from a Tory Government. The current Scottish Parliament is so inept and corrupt that the covid relief money has to be sent directly to the councils because the SNP are taking it and stashing it for their own gain.

Independence for Scotland has never had more support from the English than it has now.

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#738 Post by CharlieOneSix » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:16 pm

om15 wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:50 pm
...... The current Scottish Parliament is so inept and corrupt that the covid relief money has to be sent directly to the councils because the SNP are taking it and stashing it for their own gain.....
My bold above. Can you support that with a reference? I'm no SNP or Independence supporter (being English) and on the shielding list, but all the Covid information I have received is in letters direct from the Scottish Government and not the Council for this area, and I can't fault it. A FOI answer from the Scottish Government in December to the question:
"How much money has been received from Westminster to help Scotland deal with the Covid pandemic"
stated :
To date, the UK Government has indicated that it will allocate £8.2 billion of additional funding to the Scottish Government in respect of the Covid pandemic.
So where's the proof for your statement that the Councils have got it - I'm seriously interested.
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#739 Post by om15 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:36 pm

Sure, there are several sources for this

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18948 ... ent-funds/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-56186394

Announcing the new fund this evening, Chief Secretary to the Treasury Stephen Barclay said: "Our levelling-up fund will back local projects to improve everyday life for millions of people and we look forward to working with all areas to boost local economies.

"By extending the levelling-up fund to be UK-wide, we are ensuring that no community in the United Kingdom is left behind."

Express.co.uk understands the decision not to allocate funding through the Barnet formula to the devolved nations comes amid increased concerns from Chancellor Rishi Sunak and officials over the Scottish Government's attitude on COVID-19 funding.

Cllr Douglas Lumsden, Tory leader of Aberdeen Council, said: “This Levelling Up fund will ensure that ambitious projects that are currently being stalled in Scotland because of the Scottish Government austerity measures can now proceed at pace with UK Government money.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... en-barclay

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