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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1461 Post by FD2 » Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:20 pm

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1462 Post by barkingmad » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:46 am

CharlieOneSix wrote:
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More Scottish taxpayers money down the black hole of bail outs. First Prestwick, then Ferguson Shipyards, now £12m goes down the tube with Stoneywood Paper Mill.

https://news.stv.tv/north/troubled-ston ... nistration
I went to Stoneywood once as a junior orifice from Lossiemouth by MT to supervise the carriage and destruction of classified paper waste.

It was an initially interesting but ultimately mundane day out away from the excitement of launching in an AEW Shackleton in order to find the cloudiest patch of North Sea, in which one could spend many happy hours in the helo lanes looking for incoming Soviets at high altitude.

Another sad loss of employment in the N E of Scotland but doubtless the site will be snaffled up by the developers and turned into the obligatory housing/supermarket site. X(

Edited to add: But loadsa money, £50,000,000, is being shovelled northwards to Aberdeen, so that's all right then though the paper mill ex-workers may have to wait for that porridge to trickle down the kilt in their direction.

Never mind, the great project charges onwards, no doubt helped by the dosh shovelled across the border by the Barnett Formula;

https://unherd.com/2022/10/scottish-nat ... esentment/ :-?

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1463 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:49 pm

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£50,000,000, is being shovelled northwards to Aberdeen, so that's all right then though the paper mill ex-workers may have to wait for that porridge to trickle down the kilt in their direction.

Never mind, the great project charges onwards, no doubt helped by the dosh shoveled across the border by the Barnett Formula;
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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1464 Post by barkingmad » Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:25 am

Another divisive issue rises up from the swamp to distract from the proposal that, when independence is achieved, Jockland will initially use sterling as a currency (no you won’t sez Westminster!) then they will introduce the Scottish Poond as an interim currency before adopting the Euro as they snuggle back down into dependence on another bloc.

Well, good luck with that! Meantime the thorny issue of willies and fannies continues to obsess Wee Krankie but it appears that the good Scots may not be enamoured with altering biology which has served ‘Homo erectus’ for countless generations;

https://www.spiked-online.com/2022/10/2 ... ans-dogma/

If 16 year olds are allowed to elect for life-changing treatments, with no parental influence, then presumably they’ll be able to buy and consume alcohol, join the Jock armed services to fight and die in whatever cause and to vote in local and national elections?

I still haven’t received a satisfactory response to the question: Who will pay for and construct the hard border running from 2 miles north of Berwick-on-Tweed meandering down to Gretna?

And who will man this border post to prevent Jocks from fleeing south to less North Korean-style countries? =))

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1465 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:50 pm

The idea of an 'independent' Scotland depending on the Bank of England to manage its currency was nuts.

The idea of a hard border was also nuts. At least one part of the county lines runs down the middle of a B-class road. Drive Eastwards on that road and you're in Scotland. Drive Westwards on the same narrow road and you're in England. How could you possibly enforce such a border?

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1466 Post by llondel » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:27 pm

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Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:50 pm
The idea of an 'independent' Scotland depending on the Bank of England to manage its currency was nuts.

The idea of a hard border was also nuts. At least one part of the county lines runs down the middle of a B-class road. Drive Eastwards on that road and you're in Scotland. Drive Westwards on the same narrow road and you're in England. How could you possibly enforce such a border?
Imagine having to have your passport ready if you wish to overtake another vehicle.

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1467 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:48 pm

UP,
such border lines, including one through the middle of a public library and another through a pool table in a bar, do not seem to cause problems, including enforcement, on the US-Canadian border.
Every local, from either country, knows who is supposed to be there, and the authorities are informed of suspicious activity. It is easier for the criminals to get across the officially manned border points.

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1468 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:54 pm

Would an English registered car on the Scottish side of the road be required to have GB UK plate?

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1469 Post by Boac » Wed Oct 26, 2022 3:59 pm

Define UK?

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1470 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:15 pm

The UK was created by Scotsmen in two stages, approximately a hundred years apart.

First, there was the Union of the Crowns. A Scottish king rode South across the border at the head of two armies. There was a military army which was little more than a bodyguard. And there was an army of clerks and lawyers and accountants and administrators. That army set up a government headquarters literally at the back doors of Whitehall. To this day that quarter square mile is known as Scotland Yard.

Then, a century later, the Scottish parliament whose members had bankrupted themselves and their little country in a share bubble funding the disastrous Darien Scheme (caused by a Scotsman who had invented the concept of a National Debt and had created The Bank of England to administer and profit from that debt) voted themselves out of existence and took £400,000 Pounds to compensate for their own stupidity. That was the Union of the Parliaments.

A bank was set up to administer that £400,000, known as the Emolument. They called it The Royal Bank of Scotland. In 2008 that bank went bust and had to be bailed out by the UK. The Prime Minister and the Chancellor of the Exchequer who rescued it with English money were both Scotsmen.

Scotsmen really are pretty fundamental, in every way, to the United Kingdom. Great Britain wouldn't be very Great without us.

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1471 Post by CharlieOneSix » Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:16 pm

Re potential hard borders in the event of independence, as everyone north of the present 'soft' border knows, we have the Alcohol etc. (Scotland) Act 2010 with which the wee Krankie banned "irresponsible promotions", ie special offers on multiple cans/bottles of alcoholic beverages such as beer and wine. I've often wondered how many white vans fill up with the special offers in Carlisle and trundle their way up the M6/M74 to flog them on housing estates north of the border.... :-?
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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1472 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:28 pm

But .... smuggling alcohol has never been a crime!
(takes another sip of moonshine)

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1473 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:55 pm

I thought, as any Scotsman would, that "Drink Canada dry" was a challenge.

Where's Green Wossisname?

https://www.ops-normal.org/viewtopic.ph ... 40#p348766

and you are close.

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1474 Post by barkingmad » Fri Oct 28, 2022 7:25 am

Trouble continues to brew for wee Krankie as she barges on towards the shining goal of allowing children to wreck their lives as they go through a time of personal uncertainty;

SNP minister Ash Regan resigns over gender recognition plans https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-63416857

This issue will distract from the Indyref2 cause and I can’t see it being a hit with the average Jock voter who’s worrying about power cuts, transport chaos and the “heat or eat” dilemma. :-?

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1475 Post by barkingmad » Sun Oct 30, 2022 8:28 pm

For some odd reason today I felt happier about the world north of Gretna, Carter Bar and Berwick-on-Tweed, route of the new EU/England border;

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/ ... d-28353336

I can't help dreaming about what might happen if both the Barnett Formula dosh and any surplus electricity being imported from Perfidious Albion into William Wallace territory were to be switched off one Monday morning soon @ 0600 GMT? :)

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1476 Post by Woody » Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:00 pm

Who’s Krankie going to blame for this ~X(

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1477 Post by barkingmad » Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:56 pm

Woody wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:00 pm
Who’s Krankie going to blame for this ~X(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... l-63465597
Brexit, as usual. Next question please....

And who's Krankie going to blame for this;

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/sc ... r-AA13CuWa Perhaps they need a raise of the Barnett formula?

Brexit, as usual. Next question please....

And who's Krankie going to blame for this;

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/ ... y-28369935

Brexit, as usual. Next question please....

And who's Krankie going to blame for this;

"Ash Regan says her conscience could not allow her to back the Gender Recognition Reform Bill
A former Scottish government minister who quit over its gender reform plans has said the first minister was "well aware" of her concerns.
Ash Regan said she voted against the proposals because she fears that they could put women and girls in danger.
Ms Regan also said the SNP should have allowed its MSPs to have a free vote on the issue.
She was one of nine SNP MSPs to defy the party whip when the reforms faced their first Holyrood vote last week.
The former community safety minister was the first SNP minister to quit over government policy since the party came to power in 2007.
The SNP is also facing its biggest-ever backbench rebellion, with seven of its MSPs voting against the proposals and another two abstaining - although the reforms still passed the first stage of the parliamentary process by 88 votes to 33"

In her response to Ms Regan's resignation, First Minister Nicola Sturgeon claimed that "at no stage have you approached me - or indeed the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice - to raise your concerns about the Gender Recognition Reform Bill or the vote".

Wait a minute, I hear the sound of loose wheel nuts, can we please stop? X(

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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1478 Post by FD2 » Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:07 pm

Let's see what effect this continual discontented whining and mis-government has on the minds of some of Scotland's lower orders:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... eaths.html

Even Wee Krankie has to condemn it this time.
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Re: Chaos in Scotland.

#1479 Post by barkingmad » Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:48 pm

This guy sounds like the sort of chappie who turns more money into less money by starting an airline;

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/ ... _like_this

Well, good luck with that Wee Krankie ! ! ! :YMAPPLAUSE:

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Re: Chaos in Scotland

#1480 Post by barkingmad » Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:51 pm

Can things become any more dystopian north of the Gretna-Berwick wall?

https://dailysceptic.org/2022/11/20/con ... o-step-in/

Why is Wee Krankie and her radicalised acolytes obsessed with this topic?

Sarf of the Wall we seem to be preoccupied with other allegedly more important matters but still in Jockland there are some with a firm grasp of the non-essentials?

Or is it an pathetic decoy action to distract the electorate from the lack of enthusiasm for something called ‘independence’ which will result in joining Ursula Fond Of Lying’s nuclear-armed (proposed) army but hopefully getting rid of the current stock of Sassenach buckets of sunshine and their delivery systems?

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