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#361 Post by G-CPTN » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:32 pm


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Re: Chaos in the UK

#362 Post by compo » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:08 pm

Christmas arrived early this year

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#363 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:48 pm

OFSO, don't forget Gove the knife and the grape Vine.

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#364 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:52 pm

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Christmas arrived early this year
Working notice at that level is a nonsense. Indeed in the RAF we experienced the poisioness atmosphere from those who PVRd and had to serve 18 months notice.

Cardboard box and blocking access immediately is essential.

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#365 Post by k3k3 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:57 pm

It almost looked as if someone wanted to slam the door behind him on his way out, hope it hit his arse.

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#366 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:00 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:52 pm
compo wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:08 pm
Christmas arrived early this year
Working notice at that level is a nonsense. Indeed in the RAF we experienced the poisioness atmosphere from those who PVRd and had to serve 18 months notice.

Cardboard box and blocking access immediately is essential.
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Re: Chaos in the UK

#367 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:07 pm

When I retired I had time to run a Government wipe program on my office PC, it wasn't networked. The last command is issued was:

format c:/

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#368 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:10 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:07 pm
When I retired I had time to run a Government wipe program on my office PC, it wasn't networked. The last command is issued was:

format c:/
Easily unformatted by the way... needs to be wiped using at least DoD 5220.22-M Wiping Standard ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_ ... 5220.22-M)
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#369 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:16 pm

TGG, exactly, that was the first process,, 😆

More recently I disposed of an HDD. After wiping it I sent it to my brother in law's son in law. He is a forensic analyst. He had recovered data from physically destroyed equipments from various nefarious enterprises; my disc was clean.

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#370 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:18 pm

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TGG, exactly, that was the first process, 😆
Ok, ok just wanted to make sure your OPSEC standards were good... :-bd ;)))

You old buzzards need to be aware of NIST 800-88 Clear and NIST 800-88 Purge for solid state drives as well... :p ;)))
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#371 Post by Boac » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:18 pm

Rumours that Scummings had BoJo's brain in the box, but I reckon the box was too big - more likely BoJo's ego.

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#372 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:20 pm

Boac wrote:
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Rumours that Scummings had BoJo's brain in the box, but I reckon the box was too big - more likely BoJo's ego.
There is not enough space in this universe for BoJo's ego!
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#373 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:28 pm

TGG, my friend could work with the chip that had been broken out of a micro SD cars. People don't realise just how resilient they are.

My last RAF job involved an ancient computer system. The HDD component weighted about 25lb. The platters were about 5 inch diameter. A head crash made them look like a worn disc brake. For destruction the platters were taken to Rolls Royce who would 'polish' the discs. That was industrial wiping 😊

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#374 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:36 pm

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Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:28 pm
TGG, my friend could work with the chip that had been broken out of a micro SD cars. People don't realise just how resilient they are.

My last RAF job involved an ancient computer system. The HDD component weighted about 25lb. The platters were about 5 inch diameter. A head crash made them look like a worn disc brake. For destruction the platters were taken to Rolls Royce who would 'polish' the discs. That was industrial wiping 😊
Indeed. I am old enough to remember the IBM 3370's. The HDD's comprised of seven fixed 14-inch disks, and each unit had a capacity of 571 MB and the whole unit weighed over 300 pounds. My laptop has 32 GB SSD and the whole unit weighs 5.2 pounds... :)

We do live in an amazing technological era... :-bd
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#375 Post by ian16th » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:53 pm

TheGreenGoblin wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:36 pm
Pontius Navigator wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:28 pm
TGG, my friend could work with the chip that had been broken out of a micro SD cars. People don't realise just how resilient they are.

My last RAF job involved an ancient computer system. The HDD component weighted about 25lb. The platters were about 5 inch diameter. A head crash made them look like a worn disc brake. For destruction the platters were taken to Rolls Royce who would 'polish' the discs. That was industrial wiping 😊
Indeed. I am old enough to remember the IBM 3370's. The HDD's comprised of seven fixed 14-inch disks, and each unit had a capacity of 571 MB. My laptop has 32 GB SDD and the whole unit weighs 5.2 pounds... :)

We do live in an amazing technological era... :-bd
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Re: Chaos in the UK

#376 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:03 pm

Great shot Ian. You are clearly an ex IBM Mainframe man. The data centres I worked in looked much the same albeit with midrange IBM kit. Only thing missing was the good looking lady with the cross your heart bra and the rather ardent look of admiration... ;)))
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Re: Chaos in the UK

#377 Post by Woody » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:05 pm

Boac wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:18 pm
Rumours that Scummings had BoJo's brain in the box, but I reckon the box was too big - more likely BoJo's ego.
It’s Gwyneth Paltrow's head in the box :D
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Re: Chaos in the UK

#378 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:14 pm

As long it wasn't somebody's head in Gwyneth Paltrow's box...

Did I just say that? (Go easy on the cheap Cotes De Provence Goblin)...

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#379 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:18 pm

Ian, our backup disc packs were like the one he was holding only a little larger. Each disc pack was sealed. I can't remember the fine detail even though I would do a daily backup. I remember opening the drive lid, offering up the disc pack, removing the plastic cover, shutting the drive lid and then doing its stuff. Top and bottom platters were sacrificial and held no data.

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#380 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:19 pm

Woody wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:05 pm
Boac wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:18 pm
Rumours that Scummings had BoJo's brain in the box, but I reckon the box was too big - more likely BoJo's ego.
It’s Gwyneth Paltrow's head in the box :D
Who and why her?

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