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Re: Chaos in the UK

#241 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:48 am

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Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:55 am

Businesses under stress, gang turf wars, black, white, Chinese etc.... I am guessing, but this sounded like organised crime in dispute...
Seems not, all the stabbing done by a lone nutcase by all accounts...
A man who killed one man and wounded seven others during a two-hour stabbing rampage across Birmingham city centre remains at large, police said.

The first stabbing was in Constitution Hill at 00:30 BST and the killer moved south, apparently attacking at random, officers said.

The stabbings do not appear terrorism-related, gang-related or connected to disorder, West Midlands Police said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... m-54045143
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Re: Chaos in the UK

#242 Post by barkingmad » Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:35 pm

Being tested for traces of being Welsh, Jock or Bogtrotter on your return from abroad?

Don’t blame the BoJo and Hancock circus, blame Tony Bliar and decisions made years ago in order to pacify the revolting regions!

“Everyone's moaning about the confusing and different Coronavirus quarantine rules across the UK, but no-one's pointing at the root cause - devolution itself.
This pandemic has put the spotlight on certain failures of devolution in the UK.
Right now someone could return from a trip to Portugal, and depending on where they live in the UK, they might be required to spend 14 days in quarantine.
And people are asking questions like, what if I land in Bristol, then go to my home to Cardiff by car?
And those affected point at Westminster and say it's all their fault.
But Westminster doesn't decide on quarantine rules for the devolved regions.
Those regions decide the quarantine rules for themselves.
And that's what the people in those devolved regions voted for. Yes, it's what they wanted.
They voted for that difference.
So we end up with the spectacle of certain politicians grandstanding every day to try and display their wares as the great statesperson where COVID is concerned.
With certain regional politicians doing things differently to show independence of political thought and action.
Well, independence from Westminster and doing things differently to London being the main factors anyway.
If the devolved assemblies want to wag their own tails, they cannot expect England to be wagged by them as well.
And you do have to question whether it's politics or the health of the people that is the main driver here.
Without devolution on such a scale, the rules would apply across the UK, taking all factors into account. One set of rules - clarity for all.
And not just where quarantine from foreign travel is concerned, but also from rules over face coverings and gatherings of people too.
With the only difference being locally imposed hot-spot restrictions.
But with devolution, the response from each area will be different as different criteria apply and different politics dictate that response.
And that includes different responses to hot-spots too.
And you think it's bad in the UK, have you checked out all the different rules inside the supposedly internally borderless European Union?
Now some may see these different responses within the UK as a good thing, but many travellers find them confusing and irritating.
And all driven by devolution and the requirement for each devolved region to act differently.
Now, a warning here for England.
There had been plans to break England up by devolving more power to the regions - like the nine EU MEP constituency regions.
Can you imagine if every one of those had the same sorts of powers as the devolved authorities in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland?
And I would imagine that the pro-EU set in the UK would quite like that to happen. Easier to get us back in.
The English should not allow these sorts of barriers to be erected across their country.
At the end of the day, if you want devolution and power, with these big decisions being made closer to you, then expect more and more of these sorts of things to keep cropping up as time goes on.
It's not confusion - it's devolution!
And if you don't like it, either lump it, or vote to get rid of your devolved assembly or vent your spleen on the decision-maker - which is your devolved assembly, not Westminster.
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Re: Chaos in the UK

#243 Post by Boac » Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:55 pm

"And people are asking questions like, what if I land in Bristol, then go to my home to Cardiff by car?"

An awful lot of nappy-wetting there. The answer is blindingly obvious.

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#244 Post by Boac » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:54 pm

Birmingham 'stabber' named as 'Zephaniah McLeod', 27 years old.

Released from jail in April and with 'mental problems'.........................

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/12 ... reed-jail/

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#245 Post by barkingmad » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:15 pm

Would there be any connection between Z McLeod this brilliant idea from Blessed Margaret and continued by the Reverend Bliar?

https://calderdaleandkirklees999callfor ... -services/

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#246 Post by Ibbie » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:31 am

The feckwits in charge, that btw, is not just members of the government, have now lost all credibility with their constant knee jerk changes, with the general public.

That is the problem.

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#247 Post by AtomKraft » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:04 am

If a white cop kills a black suspect, the BBC faithfully report the 'race' of both.

If a black loony kills a white victim, the BBC reports the race of neither.

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#248 Post by barkingmad » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:38 am

AtomKraft wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:04 am
If a white cop kills a black suspect, the BBC faithfully report the 'race' of both.

If a black loony kills a white victim, the BBC reports the race of neither.
But to give them credit, they did transmit a still of the dead white man and CCTV of the NR nutter roaming freely looking for more targets, so that’s all right then.

But not much help if one is listening to one’s crystal set wireless... :-w

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#249 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:55 am

Boac wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:55 pm
"And people are asking questions like, what if I land in Bristol, then go to my home to Cardiff by car?"

An awful lot of nappy-wetting there. The answer is blindingly obvious.
Clearly I am blind.

Logically and responsibly you would comply with your leader's ruling and self-isolate.

Selfishly and irresponsibly you would say who knows?

The probably Jones the Snitch woukd tell Jones the Plod that Jones the Thief has a sun tan from the Costas.

So Jones the Thief might be scared enough to comply.

Or woukd the Viet Taff give it a stiff two fingers?

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#250 Post by Boac » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:01 am

Well summarised, PN.

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#251 Post by Ibbie » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:22 am

I would think the latter, the way things are going. More reports this morning that the figures being used are false/inflated...... and as for the vaccine trial being paused causing the tabloids and the BBC/ITV news to get their respective knickers in twists........it is not the first time it's been paused..and probably not the only trial to have been paused...but the first time some journos have seen to amplify it. Move along, nothing to see or be made out of this.

The other matter is now that Boac has mentioned going home by car, you would now take firstly a bus then a train and finally a cab.

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#252 Post by OFSO » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:47 am

Thought the same. There has not not been a medication made, let alone tested, to which someone somewhere has not reacted badly. Yet from the yapping of the media you get the impression that this is the end of the search for the vaccine.

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#253 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:24 pm

Oh OFSO, don't under exaggerate. Any journalist worth his salt can see it is the end of the World as we know it.

We're doomed.

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#254 Post by OFSO » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:36 pm

No, my underpants are the End of the World as we know it. Mrs OFSO says so.

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#255 Post by Woody » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:22 pm

I’ve been given an advance preview of Matt Hancocks next briefing, sworn to secrecy, but I can trust fellow members of this forum :D

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#256 Post by Undried Plum » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:49 pm

OK, I'm persuaded.

Let's open the ice cream parlours AND the pubs.

That'll fix the virus.

Sorted.

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#257 Post by G-CPTN » Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:30 pm

Having the pubs open has given the potential for social mixing and spreading of whatever the good Lord might bring.

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#258 Post by OFSO » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:17 am

Why is Boris Johnson saying it might in the future be possible to develop tests for CV that give the results in minutes when we had such tests administered to us in May and June in the Harley St clinic in London? Is he completely mad?

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#259 Post by Boac » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:20 am

Short answer or long one?

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Re: Chaos in the UK

#260 Post by Pontius Navigator » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:07 am

OFSO, scale?

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