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Re: Is the 'New European' a contemptible rag?

#41 Post by BenThere » Sun May 19, 2019 2:23 pm

Farage is the UK's Trump. He's charismatic and eloquent, yet his demeanor is of a man who can walk among the people and speak and relate to them. I think a teaming of Farage and Boris would be a golden recipe for UK success. How can I send him the 25 pounds from the US?

All over, in Europe, South America, Canada, et al., conservative thought is increasingly holding more and more sway. I don't see that trend reversing anytime soon.

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#42 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun May 19, 2019 2:24 pm

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#43 Post by BenThere » Sun May 19, 2019 3:19 pm

I'm laughing, too.

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Re: Is the 'New European' a contemptible rag?

#44 Post by om15 » Sun May 19, 2019 7:53 pm

Here you are Ben,

https://thebrexitparty.org/register/

Although you may find yourself the centre of a Channel 4 exposé as you are not from the Home Counties.

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#45 Post by Sisemen » Mon May 20, 2019 1:22 am

And in Oz the totally unexpected return of a conservative Government against all the odds. Pundits are saying it is partially due to the public’s repudiation of ultra-left groups like GetUp, the Greens and their ilk.

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#46 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon May 20, 2019 3:03 am

It is a simple failure of polling, just like ...all the other failures of polling!
The MSM does not want to admit that polling is left wing biased due to being unrepresentative, but the industry itself knows very well, and has said so for anyone who cares to read
http://eprints.ncrm.ac.uk/3789/1/Report ... evised.pdf

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Re: Is the 'New European' a contemptible rag?

#47 Post by Krystal n Chips » Mon May 20, 2019 5:20 am

BenThere wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 2:23 pm
Farage is the UK's Trump. He's charismatic and eloquent, yet his demeanor is of a man who can walk among the people and speak and relate to them. I think a teaming of Farage and Boris would be a golden recipe for UK success. How can I send him the 25 pounds from the US?

All over, in Europe, South America, Canada, et al., conservative thought is increasingly holding more and more sway. I don't see that trend reversing anytime soon.
Given you are a fervent Trump supporter, it's understandable why you see similarities between the two . And, it has to be said, your analogy is accurate, Nige and Donald did hold hands in a lift after all, and he was given pride of place several times at Trumps lectern plus, they both have another notable characteristic .

Both are narcissists .....

We'll leave the other, more dubious and questionable traits regarding legalities aside here you will be pleased to learn.

Alternatively, you are astute enough to have read the posts and noted the coterie of chums collectively bonding together and decided to chuck a pebble into the pond for some fun...which is fair enough.

Back to Nige. Politics is not a cheap indulgence hence funding is required as we all know. This is where it gets complicated and even more so for those who feel questions shouldn't be asked because the answers may not meet with their approval.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rdon-brown


Here's a bit more about the twinning of ego's you proposed. You have a disadvantage in only being aware of Boris rather than having been exposed to his duplicity for many years as we have in the UK...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rty-leader

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#48 Post by Pontius Navigator » Mon May 20, 2019 7:06 am

Of course not in UK, our news print is evenly balanced.

One in each hand.

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Re: Is the 'New European' a contemptible rag?

#49 Post by Bob » Mon May 20, 2019 8:19 pm

Its all about perception, the UK is controlled by the right wing and has been for centuries, yet most North Americans would consider Britain as being a bit leftish even though almost all land in the UK is owned privately and we have effectively no publicly owned industry or infrastructure and a far less powerfull (virtually non-existant) Union movement ( USA Unions have more power and greater rights)
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#50 Post by FD2 » Mon May 20, 2019 9:49 pm

I remember those good old days when the far left was running the country. Beer and sandwiches at No 10, rubbish piled in the streets, dirty trains which didn't run on time, corpses not dealt with. Ah, how I miss them, but there's a chance those happy days could be here again if Corbyn and his Momentum chums get back in power. I'm sure Maduro, the IRA, Hamas and all his other 'centrist' chums will be backing him to the hilt.

I see that Gordon Brown is chipping away at the sidelines, as is his right. After all he wasn't responsible for any of the financial crisis. :^o

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#51 Post by FD2 » Mon May 20, 2019 9:50 pm

Truth be told, we don't seem to have any competent politicians at the moment (in Parliament that is).

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#52 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon May 20, 2019 10:28 pm

..and now you come to think of it, when was the last time you had?

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#53 Post by om15 » Tue May 21, 2019 7:46 am

I have always found Gordon Brown extremely unpleasant, that dour Scots superiority combined with no humour and avid socialism is not really what you want anymore. His snide comments are a bit rich from the clown that flogged off all our gold at cost price.

I suspect this might be something personal with Farage, I saw a short clip of Farage laying into Brown in the EU Parliament, basically clearly explaining his fiscal ineptitude and asking why he has never apologised for his disastrous decisions, "You've apologised for everything else, slavery, but not selling off the gold", Brown was very uncomfortable at all this.

Farage will be up against every dirty trick in the book by the Establishment, the call for Electoral Commission investigation is well timed, a couple of days before the election to hit the headlines and of course they won't find anything but that won't be released until after the election. However this isn't just a protest vote by fruit cakes, I think Farage will wipe the floor with them all in interviews, election results and his pretty professional campaign is in for the long haul. Good.

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#54 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue May 21, 2019 7:57 am

The Establishment still seem to think the people who will vote for Farage can be influenced by headlines, or the BBC. It would appear that they can't get out of their bubble. Wheeling out Blair and Broon is hurting their case even more rather than helping it. When the Welsh have dumped Labour, and the Middle English have dumped the Tories, the Establishment has had it. And it's not just Brexit; prosecuting a 75 year old soldier for murder in NI has seen one of my former navigators having his letter printed in the Telegraph saying he'll never vote Tory again.
I think the situation in the UK is going to start resembling the US, in terms of the Establishment and the losing politicians throwing everything at Farage, with the same result, I expect.

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#55 Post by om15 » Tue May 21, 2019 8:11 am

This has just been released on line this morning, it is brilliant,


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#56 Post by om15 » Tue May 21, 2019 9:13 am

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... n-currency

On the commission’s review, he said: “We went to visit them last week. They said we had all the right procedures in place. We asked them for a letter to confirm that. They failed to give it.

“Now, in an act of bad faith, clearly politically motivated, despite the fact we had invited them to our offices, last week they were too busy to see us; this week, 48 hours before a national election, they are coming into our office.

“Not that they will find anything wrong. I’ve got a team of four accountants working on this. I’m not stupid.

“Once again it shows the establishment in this country is rotten to the core and we need to change politics for good.”
Even the Guardian has to print facts occasionally it seems.

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#57 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue May 21, 2019 9:52 am

Like the Dan Snow "I got a Brexit Party leaflet in my voting pack", which he has now retracted, the BS accusations don't even last a couple of days before they are exposed. It makes no sense. Even the average Joe doesn't take anything at face value any more, especially from the MSM. This is just desperate, and in fact only makes their prospects worse as they continually destroy whatever credibility might remain.

Of course, the position of the Remainers (and the Establishment), is very difficult as:
1) They are wrong. The average Briton will be better off outside the EU, and the economic data already shows that.
2) They are anti-democratic
3) Almost nobody trusted them before this all started
4) They are publicly headed by incompetent, dishonest, spineless f#ckwits

Still, I suppose they have to do something, given that they are incapable of accepting reality. And I must admit it's hard to think of a better way for them to attack Farage other than a continual barrage of (false) accusations - the weight of opinion ploy. But then I never could think like a socialist or a power-broking bureaucrat, not being a narcissistic bubble-dweller. Maybe a big lie would be a better bet, that's got historical precedent. Really huge, Farage rapes goats whilst dressed as a milkmaid, that kind of thing. The headlines would be more amusing, at least ;)))

Better still, a milkmaid's uniform supplied by Russia. That'll do it =))

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#58 Post by Krystal n Chips » Tue May 21, 2019 4:37 pm

After what you might call an "interesting " day, I found this ....and thought of so many on here . You know, "KnC is on my ignore list " so ya, boo, sucks, that's told him !... Nige doesn't like C4 News it seems. Of course, a mere £450k didn't have to be declared Nige, according to your explanation, however, as you not left politics, how about a refund or a declaration.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48354209

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Re: Is the 'New European' a contemptible rag?

#59 Post by Krystal n Chips » Wed May 22, 2019 6:05 am

Morning chaps...excitement fermenting rapidly as the Day of Resurrection ( ( V2.0 ) approaches ?

Here's a nice cartoon for you to relish....or rather, wonder why, if there is no substance to the allegations, the damned pinko left wing media are making such a fuss !

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ry-cartoon

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#60 Post by BenThere » Wed May 22, 2019 11:29 pm

Both are narcissists....


KnC,

That's a term used to label people pejoratively as self-absorbed to the level of a psychological disorder. I think it's overused. The label has been used against both Presidents Trump and Obama, and now Nigel Farage in the hopes of defaming them and countering their appeal. In happier times we used to call it 'high self-esteem' and encouraged it.

To the topic of the day, European elections seem to be popping up all over and it also seems that the momentum has shifted to a popular rejection of the power structure that implemented mass immigration, high taxes, EU excesses and intrusion, loss of sovereignty, and such. The ascent of the nationalists has been breathtaking in UK, Italy, Poland, Sweden, and now, France, and it shows no signs of slowing. I find that comforting.

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