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Re: Is the 'New European' a contemptible rag?

#21 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat May 18, 2019 7:48 am

What someone said +1

Don't feed the troll.

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Re: Is the 'New European' a contemptible rag?

#22 Post by Krystal n Chips » Sat May 18, 2019 9:35 am

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 7:48 am
What someone said +1

Don't feed the troll.
Ah, well this is a website so an easy, unfounded, accusation to make. However, this could be more problematic for you in the real world, should your elevation to political governance come to fruition . For those unaware, it was mentioned on TOP that, an expectation, note the modesty here, to be co-opted on to the Parish Council was in the offing. In today's political climate, this is only a short step away from a Cabinet post of course.

The problem however, is, that, said council may comprise of people whom you don't approve of, or livestock workers, or ladies whom you feel not one, but two, paper bags would not enhance their features....perish the thought then, if any were present in the same room as yourself....

There again, given the location, it's possible there may be a few former military chaps involved, in which case, problem solved !...you just remind them of their former rank, if lower than yours, and no further debate permitted.

Parish Councils do tend to attract a certain demographic however......


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Re: Is the 'New European' a contemptible rag?

#23 Post by FD2 » Sat May 18, 2019 10:16 am

Having trouble with your glasses? I didn't say they were 'extremist' did I? I mentioned their policies are extreme, so perhaps you'd like to tell me how cosying up to some of the world's worst terrorist organisations is a good thing. Supporting that nice man in Venezuela too.

Maybe you could explain how the Labour Party's programme of nationalisations is going to benefit the country and how much it is going to cost? I expect the whole country will benefit by being run by Momentum, as opposed to just the Labour Party being controlled by them as it is now.

Now I've gone and fed the troll again.

Mancunian Candidate or 'Manchurian Candidate' - great film that - he was brainwashed too. I think you had better go on my 'total crap to ignore completely list'.

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#24 Post by Capetonian » Sat May 18, 2019 10:43 am

KaknCrap has always had an unpleasant habit of quoting what other people haven't said.
Clearly a sign of a feeble intellect or a twisted mind, or both.

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#25 Post by ian16th » Sat May 18, 2019 10:47 am

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Mancunian Candidate or 'Manchurian Candidate' - great film that - he was brainwashed too. I think you had better go on my 'total crap to ignore completely list'.
With very good performances from Angela Landsbury and 'im from Bez Valley, Lawrence Harvey.
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#26 Post by om15 » Sat May 18, 2019 11:19 am

their accurate opinion of the English, those located in the Home Counties, the South East and London in particular.
Purely out of a sense of incredulity could I ask you to elucidate that statement.

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#27 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat May 18, 2019 5:25 pm

Lost the thread here. What are you talking about?

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#28 Post by om15 » Sat May 18, 2019 7:59 pm

PN, apologies, I have quoted a particularly strange sentiment expressed by K&C, up until now we assumed that the contempt and vitriol that is emitted from K&C was mainly directed at Brigadier Generals and above, but now it appears that it incorporates all Englishmen, particularly those from the south of England.
It would be tedious beyond endurance to quote the full statement, but the gist of it is that K&C supports whatever he assumes the Scots think of the English, all that socialism appears to have softened the brain.

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#29 Post by FD2 » Sat May 18, 2019 8:16 pm

I think that being in touch with muddled, inverted snobs like K&C can sometimes be disorientating ;))) . There must be a name for it somewhere in the psychiatry handbook - a syndrome of some sort maybe? Contagious Muddled Thinking Syndrome?

No doubt he thinks that anyone south of the Wash is deeply threatening and dishonest, or if siding with his idea of Scots (SNP, Labour), anyone south of the Border.

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#30 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat May 18, 2019 8:27 pm

OM, I actually come from well North of Him but he is usually so far adrift it would be a thread of its own

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#31 Post by Krystal n Chips » Sun May 19, 2019 5:41 am

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Sat May 18, 2019 10:16 am
Having trouble with your glasses? I didn't say they were 'extremist' did I? I mentioned their policies are extreme, so perhaps you'd like to tell me how cosying up to some of the world's worst terrorist organisations is a good thing. Supporting that nice man in Venezuela too.

Maybe you could explain how the Labour Party's programme of nationalisations is going to benefit the country and how much it is going to cost? I expect the whole country will benefit by being run by Momentum, as opposed to just the Labour Party being controlled by them as it is now.

Now I've gone and fed the troll again.

Mancunian Candidate or 'Manchurian Candidate' - great film that - he was brainwashed too. I think you had better go on my 'total crap to ignore completely list'.
First, the good news. I don't need any form of corrective action as my eyesight is well above average.

Secondly, your desperation with regard to semantics . I didn't misquote or misconstrue your comment about extreme because extremist is a literal meaning. I have yet to read any Labour proposals that would be considered extreme, but, you clearly have, so I would appreciate references to these for clarification.

Nationalisation...now that always tends to upset those who feel the private sector is the panacea to remedy the incompetence of the state. Utilities readily come to mind here....so I won't mention profits or shareholders dividends taking priority over consumers, and, of course, the railways. Much as I would delight in seeing them returned to national ownership, the legal practicalities associated with the TOC's franchises make this unlikely, at least initially. Those are just a couple of examples by the way. As for the cost, remind us of the costs incurred by the failings of the private sector when the tax payer has subsequently been required to provide financial support.

Cosying up to terrorists. ? Individuals, from any party, have long expressed their personal sentiments towards organisations considered to be terrorist on one hand, or, freedom fighters on the other. This distinction is one of those eternal dilemmas unlikely ever to be resolved. However, that's purely for individuals. When it comes to a Gov't supporting, tacitly, or otherwise, other Gov'ts actions which are not dissimilar to terrorism, I would suggest you take a little history tour and see which party has never been averse to offering such support. You may also wish to consider the actions of those who were more than supportive of the rise of an ideology and the leader on mainland Europe in the recent past.

PN, apologies, I have quoted a particularly strange sentiment expressed by K&C, up until now we assumed that the contempt and vitriol that is emitted from K&C was mainly directed at Brigadier Generals and above, but now it appears that it incorporates all Englishmen, particularly those from the south of England.
It would be tedious beyond endurance to quote the full statement, but the gist of it is that K&C supports whatever he assumes the Scots think of the English, all that socialism appears to have softened the brain


Allow me to elucidate as you requested. Think about where Westminster is located and this may help you understand Scottish sentiments regarding the arrogance of the English and their location. I share these sentiments. Whilst the North / South divide has been around for a couple of centuries, if not longer, the fact remains it's tangible with the areas I referred to being instrumental to its preservation.

" Lost the thread here. What are you talking about? "



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#32 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun May 19, 2019 7:10 am

Like good fish bait, maggots, get a rise every time, so easy.

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#33 Post by Krystal n Chips » Sun May 19, 2019 7:38 am

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Like good fish bait, maggots, get a rise every time, so easy.
Not really. Anybody who has to ask on a website should he dial 999 because he thinks there may be a house fire can't really be said to have a firm grasp of reality

Same can equally be said about not understanding alphabetical sequences.

There's been more than a few other examples. Such as the adulation and promoting of Boris for example for his "leadership " and "team working " capabilities . Of course, if this was just an extension of the ante-room wit and repartee, feel free to repudiate your posts to this effect.

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#34 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun May 19, 2019 7:54 am

Damn me, don't even need maggots.

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#35 Post by FD2 » Sun May 19, 2019 10:15 am

PN - have you been adulating Boris in the anteroom again?

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#36 Post by Capetonian » Sun May 19, 2019 10:37 am

KaknCrap, did you wash your backside this morning?

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#37 Post by om15 » Sun May 19, 2019 10:49 am

Whilst the North / South divide has been around for a couple of centuries, if not longer,
Those of us that have entered the 21st century may dispute that thought, I agree that there is a pretend North favoured by TV producers to profit from certain soap operas, but in actual real life there is complete fluidity of movement between areas.
Do not think that because there are small isolated parochial pockets of 1970s socialism practiced by those steeped in trade unionism that exist in Manchester that this is representative of those living in the North of England, life has moved on for most, hence the huge wave of popularity that Nigel Farage is enjoying in the North, including it appears in Edinburgh during his current Scottish visit.

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#38 Post by Capetonian » Sun May 19, 2019 11:43 am

North and South is a question of perspective. To someone from Dorking, Birmingham is 'north'.

All a bit meaningless, no doubt the Manchurian can come up with some dribbling half-baked 'explanation' replete with quotes from the Guardian.

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#39 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun May 19, 2019 1:06 pm

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PN - have you been adulating Boris in the anteroom again?
No, just coarse fishing. Other than that I have never looked at catch.

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#40 Post by Krystal n Chips » Sun May 19, 2019 1:41 pm

om15 wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 10:49 am
Whilst the North / South divide has been around for a couple of centuries, if not longer,
Those of us that have entered the 21st century may dispute that thought, I agree that there is a pretend North favoured by TV producers to profit from certain soap operas, but in actual real life there is complete fluidity of movement between areas.
Do not think that because there are small isolated parochial pockets of 1970s socialism practiced by those steeped in trade unionism that exist in Manchester that this is representative of those living in the North of England, life has moved on for most, hence the huge wave of popularity that Nigel Farage is enjoying in the North, including it appears in Edinburgh during his current Scottish visit.
First, thank you for being perceptive enough to note we are in the 21st century. This distinguishes both of us from the many firmly entrenched in their days in uniform and institutionalised lifestyle.

However, allow me to further your education in respect of the North / South divide. There are, and always have been, numerous factors that contribute to this justified, divide. The link below will help you understand further therefore. As you mentioned the unlamented deceased I have to say when her despotic regime was in full flow, I went to Farnborough in 82 and thought I was in a different country.

A quick couple of points though, one being Treeza you may recall offering to bribe Labour MP's in the N.East with some money, conspicuously absent previously , to support her plans for Brexit.....another, is that whilst Nige received a slightly more harmonious reception than he did in 2013 in Scotland, an estimated crowd of 400 doesn't really constitute a mass representation of the country as a whole.

https://phantom-media.co.uk/2018/10/a-d ... d-society/

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