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Re: The disgraceful BBC

#261 Post by 4mastacker » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:18 pm

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Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:43 am
https://www.the-sun.com/news/313638/bun ... his-death/

Seems they think all airplanes look alike as well.
They certainly do. When Mathew Amroliwalla was covering the all too frequent repatriations into Lyneham, every aircraft bringing back the fallen was a 'Hercules', even when it was a Globemaster. I wrote to the BBC telling them it was unprofessional journalism to incorrectly identify the aircraft. Got the usual smug, patronising response that they don't make mistakes.
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#262 Post by barkingmad » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:15 am

Maybe they deserve a little credit for objectivity as Radio4 actually interviewed Nigel as he cleared his desk in Brussels this morning prior to departing those hallowed halls of democracy and inflated expenses claims.

I can’t understand why if our MEPs are now redundant, why we’re still subject to ECJ etc, directives various and we still have to watch the EUSSR boats plundering British territorial waters. Back in 2016 we should just have packed up, gone and told them to sling their nets elsewhere. Not a lot of MSM attention is being shown to the anticipated sellout of the UK fishermen.
But doubtless if the remaining boats blockade major ports in protest we’ll be entertained by breathless reports from Beeb staffers who’ve managed to blag their way aboard some rusty Stonehaven tub which desperately needs investment.

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#263 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:45 am

BM, I think many of us thought just that. You don't have an election and then spend the next 4 years arguing over who won and whether you will change Governments or not.

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#264 Post by barkingmad » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:26 am

This is a very interesting new video featuring someone of whom we don’t hear much but who’s ahead of his day in analysing what social meeja is doing with modern politics. It’s a strange experience watching an interviewer allowing an articulate interviewee to answer a question without the interruptions and hectoring typical of the BBC and Channel 4 TV “fraudcasters”.

After looking at the recent car crash of Labour and Socialism in the UK and worldwide, the BBC gets addressed at 42’ into the show. Interesting comment regarding Andrew Neill, it might be bloodsport on the BBC if ever he got Carswell in his sights in a studio.



Also, for those in O-N who are confused as to the origin and function of SPADs, such as Dominic Cummings, perhaps Carswell’s explanation will place them in context of modern UK politics?t

Nearby in the selection of vids is one with a discussion between Rod Liddell and Carswell which also features the BBC which may be of interest.

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#265 Post by Boac » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:55 am

Well - what an interviewer! Who was he? He will go far. Many thanks, BM for finding and posting.

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#266 Post by om15 » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:14 pm

Excellent, the tide is turning, I use you tube very selectively, often the LBC videos, I thoroughly enjoy seeing Nigel being rude to the foreigners in the EU Parliament, something the BBC, C4, ITV do not show, I read this morning that the Prime Minister is making his Brexit statement on you tube and not the BBC.

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#267 Post by Capetonian » Thu Jan 30, 2020 12:28 pm

I thoroughly enjoy seeing Nigel being rude to the foreigners in the EU Parliament
With respect, may I correct this statement. He's not rude to them, he tells the truth. There is a difference.

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#268 Post by barkingmad » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:20 pm

boac, “who was he?”.

New talent working for the Sun newspaper but mustn’t hold that against him.......

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5621765/1 ... -dinosaur/

Might be someone worth following, I only tripped across him today whilst chasing BBC bias and info.

Another headline which grabs attention.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6447470/s ... e-english/

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#269 Post by barkingmad » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:01 am

So the war ‘twixt the UK administration and the national broadcaster hots up;



It’s only eight years since Douglas Carswell published “The End of Politics” in which he forecast the disastrous effects the new age of independent meeja would have on the aloof elite and so it came to pass.

This broadcast by Johnson, bypassing the BBC, was foretold in chapter 9 of the Carswell book titled “The iState” and I recommend the book to anyone who might be interested in how the electoral battles may be fought in the future.

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#270 Post by barkingmad » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:22 am

Even after the event our favourite state broadcaster still gets it wrong.

YouTube Jeff Taylor’s latest ”BBC Doubles Down on Anti-Brexit Bias” proves they still haven’t learned that the Remainer cause is almost totally lost.

It reminds me of the Soviet broadcasting and printed meeja lines taken during the halcyon days of the Cold War.

If they can’t start to even pretend to behave with some objectivity then I can see first the criminal sanctions over the licence dodging being swiftly abolished, as proposed by Johnson, then the takings from this funding source will seriously diminish and finally they may face non-renewal of their contract in 2027.

The writing is on the wall but the left-wing elite who run the corporation are guilty of the same blindness which has put the UK Labour Party into limbo for years and the BBC will suffer a terminal fate unless they can shake themselves out of their complacency and obvious bias. [-X

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#271 Post by 4mastacker » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:09 am

Lifted from another forum.
Taken from the Financial Times. Hidden behind a paywall.

Boris Johnson’s government will launch its first strike on BBC funding next week, opening a formal process to lift the criminal penalties on those refusing to pay the licence fee.

The consultation on decriminalisation will be one of Mr Johnson’s first domestic policy initiatives since the election — a sign of the importance he is placing on shaking-up the broadcaster and the licence fee system it has relied on since the 1920s.

BBC executives fear that if criminal sanctions were removed by law, the corporation’s ability to collect the licence fee would be badly weakened, increasing evasion and blowing a hole in the broadcaster’s programming budget of £200m or more.
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#272 Post by OFSO » Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:14 pm

So if not having a licence is no longer a criminal offence, what sanctions would the BBC be able to apply to non-payers ? If none, how would they manage to pay Ian Hislop and Paul Merton £20,000 each per 35 minute episode of HIGNFY ?

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#273 Post by ian16th » Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:26 pm

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So if not having a licence is no longer a criminal offence, what sanctions would the BBC be able to apply to non-payers ? If none, how would they manage to pay Ian Hislop and Paul Merton £20,000 each per 35 minute episode of HIGNFY ?
My understanding is that the BBC will have to pursue individual cases in the civil courts.
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#274 Post by boing » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:23 pm

Interesting idea.
Use license income to pay for legal fees to claim against non-payers in civil courts? I don't know the figures but that would seem to be a case of spending 5,000 pounds to recover 5 pounds. The only way this would make sense would be for the Beeb to claim damages as well as the license fee but then they would probably need to show how they were financially hurt. Can't see them recovering their costs so this would simply be a retribution tactic to frighten others into paying.

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#275 Post by G-CPTN » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:30 pm

I haven't used a television since it went digital (I would need a very tall aerial to achieve line-of-sight with the transmitter) and therefore I do not have a BBC licence.
I regularly receive threatening letters - I reckon the number to be well into the hundreds and maybe several hundreds - for which expenditure they will never receive a penny.
As I am now over 75, I am entitled to a free licence - something that I might investigate.

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#276 Post by 4mastacker » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:39 am

G-CPTN wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:30 pm
......As I am now over 75, I am entitled to a free licence - something that I might investigate.
Not for much longer I'm afraid G-C.

I have received a two-fingered response to my FoI request for the costs of sending a reporter and support team to Alison's bailiwick to report on those disastrous fires. According to the BBC, they are not obliged to provide that information - after all, it's only public money they are spending. I think it's a matter of public interest on such spending, especially at a time when BBC News is chopping 450 staff over funding issues. I feel the need for letters to my MP, the Information Commissioner... and even the Daily Mail.. is developing.
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#277 Post by 4mastacker » Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:56 pm

Remember the outcry after an audience member on BBC Question Time accused Laurence Fox of being a "white privileged male"? The audience member concerned was identified as a Race and Diversity researcher at Edgehill Poly University and also admitted to being employed by the BBC.

A formal complaint was lodged by a viewer (post #248) that the question/questioner was a plant by the BBC.

The guy who complained has now had a reply to his complaint....guess what?
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He's not accepting that answer - could get interesting.
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#278 Post by barkingmad » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:12 am

Their excuse will likely be that she was working for a company supplying ‘services’ to the Beeb as part of their outsourcing policy and therefore “this has nothing to do with us”, as per the famous spoof line when the “That’s Life” consumer show was satirised in another Beeb comedy show.

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#279 Post by barkingmad » Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:07 am

Ooh dear, war has broken out between 10 Downing Street and the MSM with yesterday’s exclusion from a briefing therein!

Some correspondents not considered sympathetic to the Johnson team were excluded from a briefing resulting in a walkout by other journos.

It’s all getting a bit Soviet style but after the way the MSM, especially the TV channels, behaved during the post-Brexit referendum farce then one might feel some sympathy for # 10 deciding to cut them out of the info flow and rely on other means to disseminate the message.

More details if you want on JeffTaylor’s “Boris Johnson versus mainstream media” snippet from earlier today.

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#280 Post by AtomKraft » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:09 am

Times have changed.

Once-upon-a-time, as the BBC might have said, there was a case for the license fee, and owning a TV almost certainly meant you were watching the Beeb.

Things have changed though. Most people who look at a screen are watching YouTube or similar- the BBC is still of some value, but it's polluted itself with political bias, wankerish leftyism, political correctness and woke idiocy.
Only the BBC is responsible for this- it's a path they chose for themselves.

When I used to work in Greenock, the womans prison there had plenty of inmates whose only crime was not having a TV license- crikey, some of these ladies didn't know where their next tin of special brew was coming from, so it's not surprising they skimped on the TV license.

I believe non-payment of TV license was the number one cause of incarceration among these female inmates.

Having to buy a license to watch TV is outrageous, and becoming ever more so as viewing habits change. I have a TV, but I never watch TV. It's been off for years.

Decriminalising failure to buy a TV license is coming, and I'm glad.

It'll teach the BBC a lesson too, in terms they will feel acutely.

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