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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#241 Post by Boac » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:05 pm

Ben wrote:But if Iran does who knows what will happen?
-RTFQ?

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#242 Post by BenThere » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:21 pm

Did you RTFAnswers?

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#243 Post by Boac » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:25 pm

Sure did, old chap!

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#244 Post by Boac » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:28 pm

Ben - this is total crap. One day you will learn.

"I've rebuilt the military...we spent £1.5 trillion dollars, when I came in our military was depleted, frankly we didn't have ammunition OK?"

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#245 Post by prospector » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:17 pm

When one sees reports like this and remembers the "Weapons of mass destruction" prior to the Iraqi conflict, confirmed by "Intelligence community reports" then the presidents desire not to act without more positive proof is surely understandable.

“The intelligence community has high confidence that these were not weapons that would have been in the possession of the Houthis.”

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#246 Post by BenThere » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:00 pm

Ben - this is total crap. One day you will learn.
I learned a long time ago, Boac, about your posts. But thanks for the heads up on this particular one.

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#247 Post by Boac » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:52 am

..........and PLEASE recognise I did not say it. Obviously you believe it. OK?

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#248 Post by Slasher » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:40 am

BenThere wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:54 pm
Don't bet on Iran should it come to blows, Boac.
I think the same Ben. Just as the Allies believed the Ardennes forest was impenetrable by German army tanks, so I’m now quite doubtful that Iran is unconquerable by its geographical features alone. Yankee knowhow will come up with something ingenious. And that can be safely bet on.

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#249 Post by Boac » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:19 am

Slasher - I think you are being confused by Benjamin's strange 'fantasies' and invented conversations. I do not recall having said anything about Iran's prospects in a conflict. Indeed, now that the Messiah has bought all that ammunition for the US troops I suspect they will have to think long and hard before they do anything, whereas before the Messiah descended from heaven the US was indeed powerless.

Over here (UK) 'Yankee' make candles.

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#250 Post by BenThere » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:57 pm

whereas before the Messiah descended from heaven the US was indeed powerless.
The US hasn't been powerless since its founding in 1789 under the Constitution. Funding and equipping US military forces has never been messianic in any sense.

And your references to 'fantasies and invented conversations - Where did that come from?

Have you been vaping?

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#251 Post by John Hill » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:47 pm

BenThere wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:57 pm


The US hasn't been powerless since its founding in 1789 under the Constitution.
I guess that little incident in 1814 showed how powerful the US was even then!

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BTW, has your powerful military disposed of these fellows yet?
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IIRC guys with bicycles won their war against the US..
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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#252 Post by John Hill » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:38 pm

Still going strong...
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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#253 Post by Boac » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:10 pm

Benjamin wrote:The US hasn't been powerless since its founding in 1789 under the Constitution.
- please refer post #244, quotes from the Messiah who says it has. MUST be right, eh Benjamin - the word of the chosen one - surely?

In my military experience "frankly we didn't have ammunition OK?" renders most forces powerless - what about yours? What did you have? Cardboard cut-out guns from Cornflake packets/water-pistols/nasty flippy-flappy tippy-toppy rubber-band toys? Fascinating military expertise you display!

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#254 Post by BenThere » Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:20 pm

You're on a roll, Boac. Keep digging!

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#255 Post by Boac » Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:59 am

Reality, Benjamin, reality

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#256 Post by Boac » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:48 pm

It will be interesting if SA accept the offer from Chump's big mate to supply S-400s. With the system deployed in Lebanon and India looking at building the missiles, the situation is getting 'interesting' indeed. With the system deployed in Iran...............

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#257 Post by Rwy in Sight » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:28 pm

Plus it would keep F-35 away from RSAF.

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#258 Post by BenThere » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:06 pm

What did you have? Cardboard cut-out guns from Cornflake packets/water-pistols/nasty flippy-flappy tippy-toppy rubber-band toys?
That's your reality, is it? I'll pass, thank you.

That seems to be the emerging US doctrine, initiated when Turkey chose to implement Russia's S-400 air defense array. It substantially locks out current and future US technology. If past is prologue, choosing Russian over American systems for air defense and fighter hardware has proven to be a poor choice in high stakes war fighting for a generation or so.

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#259 Post by Undried Plum » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:17 pm

As the 100% successful attack against the Patriot-defended oil plant at Abqaiq has already shown as a "prologue", Patriot is as useful as a chocolate fireguard against incoming cruise missiles and UAVs which are little more than long-range model aircraft that can be built by any reasonably advanced hobbyist.

The Yehudis have been saying for years that Patriot has about a 2% success rate. That's clearly not very good against a fleet of two or three dozen cruise missiles.

What the Saudis need is a couple of dozen extended batteries of S-400. Then they can start to defend themselves against air attack.

Whether that would be a good thing is a whole nuther conversation.

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Re: Getting hot in the Gulf

#260 Post by Boac » Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:09 pm

Well, it will certainly make for 'interesting times'. When you look at 'Patriot', you can see what the Chump meant when he said the US had 'run out of ammunition'. I would not be surprised if the Saudis wanted their money back.

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