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Re: Chaos in USA

#3541 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:28 am

Biden being a case in point ;)))

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3542 Post by OFSO » Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:27 am

I see that during a campaign speed, Biden referred to "Mitterrand from Germany" instead of "Macron from France". And Mitterrand has been dead for over twenty years. Oh well, it's the thought that counts. Sort of.

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3543 Post by probes » Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:10 am

As a non-American, I've been wondering. HOW can it be that there are no other candidates (than Biden and Trump) to be supported as the leader of the country? And, some say that the ongoing... well, whatever you call it, has damaged the US more than the Ukraine (and maybe Israel, in case it needs the aid).

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3544 Post by OFSO » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:08 pm

This is what my friend, a rabid Republican and Democrat-hater, wrote to me this morning:

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In the US, there were other better options. We could have had Ron DeSantis, most excellent Governor of Florida, but idiots in the early Primaries voted for Trump. There were other better than Trump choices, also voted down, outnumbered: Another excellent Republican, was Vivek Ramaswamy, a very smart,outspoken, successful entrepreneur who decided the country wasn’t being run right so also ran in the early primaries. Tim Scott, a Senator, wasn’t bad either.

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3545 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:19 pm

Probes, I would not claim for a moment that Canada is in any better position than the USA for the quality of the political candidates offered, at any level of government.
I think the same about the UK.
It is a consequence, I think, of the the current party system.
There is also the question of why Joe Public keeps putting up with it and voting for them. I think we have to go back to the basics of human psychology for that, probably back to caveman times when we were wandering around in small groups. Evolution is a slow process.

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#3546 Post by OFSO » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:31 pm

It’s happened again!

U.S. President Joe Biden got confused at a recent campaign event, mixing up former German Chancellors Angela Merkel and Helmut Kohl, the latter of whom died in 2017. It was Biden’s second such mix-up in less than a week.

Speaking at a fundraiser in New York on Wednesday, the Democrat leader recalled a 2021 conversation with G7 leaders when the slip-up happened. In that conversation, leaders were discussing the Jan. 6 riots at the U.S. Capitol, which had happened a few months prior, when the German leader addressed Biden."And then Helmut Kohl turned to me and said, ‘What would you say, Mr. President, if you picked up the London Times and learned that 1,000 people had broken down the doors of the British parliament, killed some bobbies on the way in, to deny the prime minister to take office,”’ Biden said, as reported by multiple outlets.

But Kohl, who led Germany as chancellor from 1982 until 1998, had died four years earlier and it was Merkel who attended the 2021 G7 event.

This is the second time this week that the U.S. president has mixed up European leaders with dead ones.

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3547 Post by Dushan » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:56 pm

Biden keeps referencing dead heads of state to acknowledge his dead voter base.
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".

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#3548 Post by OFSO » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:56 am

More than that, Mr Hur recounted, he had struggled to recall which years he had been vice-president and when his oldest son, Beau Biden, had died of cancer.

It was this last claim that prompted an angry response from the president during his press conference at the White House on Thursday evening.

"How in the hell he dare raise that?" the president said.

The press conference itself could lend more fuel to the attacks on Mr Biden, however, as the president answered a question about the Gaza War by referring to Egyptian President Mohamed al-Sisi as the president of Mexico.

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3549 Post by Dushan » Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:01 pm

Mexico, Egypt - same difference. All those brown people...
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".

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#3550 Post by Boac » Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:06 pm

It certainly does not look good for the USA. With Biden 'showing his age' and the probable Republican candidate convinced the Confederate Air Force took part in the American Civil War the future is far from comfortable.

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#3551 Post by G-CPTN » Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:04 pm

Bring back Ronald Reagan - there was a man who knew what day it was (somewhere).

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3552 Post by Boac » Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:26 pm

Whereas Clinton sometimes did not know if he was coming or going...................

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3553 Post by probes » Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:34 pm

Well, at least he was there! :)

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3554 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:36 pm

I recall an article that said George H.W. Bush's greatest contribution to saving the planet was Not Dying...

..since Dan Quayle was his VP.

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3555 Post by probes » Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:08 am

OK, having no strong emotions to either (Trump or Biden), could anybody explain how it's possible that a person who is under criminal investigation will get clearance of becoming a president and then being one, if supported enough? (no comparing to Biden's dubious speech moments, please, that's bad and that's it).

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#3556 Post by Boac » Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:11 am

Has the Chump expressed any comment on the israel/Gaza situation or ignored it?

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3557 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:25 am

Usual stuff.
Didn't happen on my watch.
Sympathy with victims.
I Have A Plan, but no details.

Same thing any politician does when the guy in charge has bad ratings.
Same stuff from Starmer, Poilievre, etc, on any subject.

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3558 Post by Dushan » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:53 pm

probes wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:08 am
OK, having no strong emotions to either (Trump or Biden), could anybody explain how it's possible that a person who is under criminal investigation will get clearance of becoming a president and then being one, if supported enough? (no comparing to Biden's dubious speech moments, please, that's bad and that's it).
Key words being “criminal investigation”. One is innocent unless (not “until”) proven guilty in a court of law beyond reasonable doubt.
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3559 Post by PHXPhlyer » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:03 pm

Dushan wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:53 pm
probes wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:08 am
OK, having no strong emotions to either (Trump or Biden), could anybody explain how it's possible that a person who is under criminal investigation will get clearance of becoming a president and then being one, if supported enough? (no comparing to Biden's dubious speech moments, please, that's bad and that's it).
Key words being “criminal investigation”. One is innocent unless (not “until”) proven guilty in a court of law beyond reasonable doubt.
Except for that sexual assault thing that the judge said was a rape.
But that was a civil case.
Adjudged to be $88,300,000 to the plaintiff.

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Re: Chaos in USA

#3560 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:19 pm

Never confuse a legal system with justice.
Nero, Vlad the Impaler, Hitler, Stalin..they all had legal systems.

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