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Re: Chaos in USA

#21 Post by Pontius Navigator » Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:33 am

Barking,you mention 9k. For mass shootings, including the gunman killed by police, the figure is about 383. If your 9k is correct this in events not defined as mass shootings. Mass shooting does not necessarily imply death either.

Contrast 383 killed in a population of about 300m with 83 knife deaths in London from a population of 10m.

Then look at the distance question. A 100 miles from London or 25 from Nottingham and I fear no evil. I rarely venture out after 9pm. It is a different world after dark.

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#22 Post by Woody » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:57 am

So he’s a mental health expert as well :((
Speaking to reporters, Mr Trump said mass shootings needed to be stopped.
"This has been going on for years, for years and years in our country and we have to get it stopped," he said.
He went on to link both attacks to a "mental illness problem", saying the gunmen were "very, very seriously mentally ill".
Investigators have not made any comments about the mental state of the two gunmen.
Texas prosecutors say the El Paso shooting is being treated as "a domestic terrorist case" and they are "seriously considering" hate crime charges.
The president is set to give a national address about the shootings on Monday.
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#23 Post by OFSO » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:06 pm

83 knife deaths in London so far this year. Remove from that tally the number of deaths of Africans, Asians and West Indian origined 'British' and I wonder how many would be left. Half a dozen whites ? Of course the powers-that-be would never dare keep statistics based on race.

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#24 Post by Capetonian » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:16 pm

Trump has called for reintroduction of death penalty for mass murders.
Good start, +1 for him.

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#25 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:19 pm

never dare keep statistics based on race
Oh, but they do!
Here's the Texas FBI 10 most wanted list from 3 years ago
Benjamin Dominguez (white): Wanted for indecency with a child by exposure, probation violation. Gang affiliation: Barrio Azteca.
Raul Ambrosios Jimenez Jr. (white): Wanted for sexual assault of a child, traffic of person under 18 – prostitution, probation Violation. Gang affiliation: Texas Syndicate.
Justin Lane Slatton Jr. (white): Wanted for murder (2 Counts) and burglary of building. Gang affiliation: Latin Kings.
Freddie Alaniz (white): Wanted for murder, sexual assault of a child, possession of marijuana.
Jose Fernando Bustos-Diaz (white): Flight-escape to avoid prosecution for homicide.
Jamie Gonzalez (white): Wanted for possession of child pornography, unlawful flight to avoid prosecution
Israel Aguirre (white): Wanted for murder.
Eusebio Deleon (white): Wanted for murder and unauthorized use of a motor vehicle.
Iris Iliana Rodriguez (white): Wanted for indecency with a child by sexual contact, indecency with a child, unlawful restraint, harassment.
Tommy Dale Sells Jr. (white): Wanted for aggravated sexual assault of child under 14 (2 Counts), indecency with child by contact.
Note all those obviously white names. Only the last one actually is Caucasian.

The Texas Depart of Justice did of course record all Hispanic victims as Hispanic, but all the Hispanic perps were "white".

Since this one got national publicity, they say they've changed it, but you can bet your bottom dollar they've found another way to fiddle the stats.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... suspects-/

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Re: Chaos in USA

#26 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:29 pm

The latest is that the Dayton shooter may have been a left wing, pro-Antifa, Trump-hating Satanist; according to social media posts linked to him.

"Giving Satanism a bad name" was one immediate comment.

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#27 Post by Pontius Navigator » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:59 pm

Fox, and London?

No mention of race, just a picture. Draw your own conclusion.

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Re: Chaos in USA

#28 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:55 pm

Coulter's Law probably applies

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#29 Post by Bob » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:20 am

If they had made high power rifle ownership and 24hr a day carrying of sidearms a legal requirement for everyone over 3 years of age , none of this would be happening.

....when will they ever learn?
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#30 Post by Pontius Navigator » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:33 am

Quite right Bob. We played Cowboys and Indians. That by would have eliminated half of my playmates. Then it would have been gunfight at the OK Coral. That would have knocked off most of the rest before we did cops and robbers.

At least that wasn't lethal as our cops weren't armed.

Oh, forgot, the robbers would have killed the cops and be the only ones to grow up and become politicians.

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Re: Chaos in USA

#31 Post by Pontius Navigator » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:33 am

Fox3WheresMyBanana wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:55 pm
Coulter's Law probably applies
Every day a learning day.

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#32 Post by Fliegenmong » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:41 am

So I believe the the El Paso guy drove almost 8 hours from his home town...and opened fire in a shopping area frequented by Hispanics.

Local Law Enforcement treating it as a case of Domestic Terrorism...(I suggested that the Las Vegas shooting was Domestic Terrorism, and wow didn't I get called out for that!...I still maintain those in Vegas would have been terrified! but I digress), kinda puts this incident in the middle of the debate about immigration, national identity & border security.

I'm guesing that at one time it was difficult for Americans to comprehend how people could be lured into acts of extreme violence against innocent people in far flung places....and yet with this..it's happening in their own Country...with their own citizens.

Just an idle observation.....
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Re: Chaos in USA

#33 Post by Fliegenmong » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:43 am

Yes! Everyday is a learning day Re: Coulter's Law!!...and not wrong either!
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Re: Chaos in USA

#34 Post by Fliegenmong » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:52 am

Another one foiled? .... 'sumpin wrong in this society..

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... 9ccb9f7420
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Re: Chaos in USA

#35 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:21 pm

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Re: Chaos in USA

#36 Post by Stoneboat » Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:06 pm

^^
Looks about right.
The only thing worse than the killings are the bottom feeding politicians who use them to try and score brownie points.

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Re: Chaos in USA

#37 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:43 pm

Speaking of killings..
Does anyone, anywhere, believe that Jeffrey Epstein wasn't just murdered?

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#38 Post by Boac » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:01 pm

No (and no). I wonder who dunnit? In this country we say 'He played a Trump card'.

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#39 Post by barkingmad » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:42 pm

Perhaps J E or a friend bribed the guards to permit the kit required for self-topping to be "accidentally" left in the cell.

Unless an acquaintance needed him silenced before the dirt emerged at trial........

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#40 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:49 pm

There is a list a mile long of accusees, headed by Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew (named in court documents from the previous trial released yesterday), who would benefit from his death.
This was murder. The USA is a banana republic.
I'm not going to bother commenting on it any more.

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