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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#881 Post by Undried Plum » Thu May 21, 2020 5:01 pm

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How can the French 'arrest' someone in UK waters?
It's called Hot Pursuit.

Well established procedure in International Law.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#882 Post by Pontius Navigator » Thu May 21, 2020 6:15 pm

But only if the offender was in their territorial waters to begin with.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#883 Post by Undried Plum » Thu May 21, 2020 6:24 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
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But only if the offender was in their territorial waters to begin with.
Which they are, invariably in this situation.

Farage is right. Not for the first time.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#884 Post by G-CPTN » Thu May 21, 2020 7:07 pm

What offence is committed by filling a RIB with people and leaving the shores of a country?

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#885 Post by Capetonian » Thu May 21, 2020 7:23 pm

Endangering lives at sea. I would think, for a start.
Crossing an international border without the necessary permissions.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#886 Post by Pontius Navigator » Thu May 21, 2020 7:28 pm

Who owned the RIB, was it stolen?

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#887 Post by Undried Plum » Thu May 21, 2020 7:41 pm

It's also called people trafficking.

Aiding and abetting illegal people trafficking is another potential charge.

Probably money laundering is involved as the sheer scale of the racket is enormous.

The list of crimes goes on and on.

I tip my hat to Farage. He's had the courage to expose the racket to the full glare of publicity.

No MSM journalist would have had the balls to do so.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#888 Post by Woody » Sat May 23, 2020 7:07 am

Boris Johnson was today warned he cannot stonewall demands to sack his right hand man Dominic Cummings for flouting lockdown rules.

The maverick No10 chief travelled from London to his parents' Durham farm in March to self-isolate with coronavirus symptoms - despite the government's own restrictions banning non-essential journeys.

The bombshell revelations sparked accusations of hypocrisy with Mr Cummings' position branded 'untenable', and signs of disquiet among Tory MPs.

Dorset police and crime commissioner Martyn Underhill warned this morning that the flagrant breach will be thrown in the face of officers as they tried to restrain sun-seeking visitors on what is expected to be a hot bank holiday weekend.


But extraordinarily, sources close to Mr Cummings claimed he is 'not remotely bothered' about the storm caused by his actions, and there is 'zero chance' of him resigning. No10 has refused to comment officially, despite questions about what Mr Johnson knew and when. The PM's official spokesman told reporters at the time that Mr Cummings was isolating 'at home'.
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#889 Post by Boac » Sat May 23, 2020 7:22 am

Will they be implementing the 14 day quarantine on arrivals in the UK who have arrived on the Border Force Ferry Service from France?

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#890 Post by Undried Plum » Sat May 23, 2020 7:45 am

They are distributed all over the country. I know one group of them was bussed to a guest house in Glasgow. The long-term residents(all British) were evicted to make way for them.

According to Farage, who knows his stuff, less than 5% are ever deported.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#891 Post by Woody » Sat May 23, 2020 10:05 am

Spot the odd one out :))
Five people have been charged with the murder of a law student in a drive-by shooting.
Aya Hachem, 19, died when shots were fired from a passing car in King Street, Blackburn, on Sunday.
Feroz Suleman, 39, Abubakir Satia, 31, Uthman Satia, 28, Judy Chapman, 26, and Kashif Manzoor, 24, are due to appear before magistrates on Saturday, Lancashire Police said.
They are also charged with attempted murder.
That charge relates to a man who was believed to have been the intended target.
The force said two shots had been fired - the first hit a building but the second hit and killed Ms Hachem.
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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#892 Post by Ibbie » Sat May 23, 2020 2:21 pm

The proposed quarantine regulations are turning into an absolute unthoughtout mess:
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Spain's quarantine will be gone by 30th June, when foreign tourists are welcome to return there.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#893 Post by Woody » Sat May 23, 2020 2:24 pm

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European leaders have reacted with fury after Britain revealed its plans for a tough new quarantine regime requiring arrivals into the UK to self-isolate for 14 days.

Home Secretary Priti Patel has received widespread backlash both at home and abroad after unveiling the measures, which have been dubbed 'ineffective and unenforceable' by the travel industry.

Ms Patel's announced yesterday that anyone arriving into the UK from June 8 would be legally required to self-isolate for two weeks or face fines of up to £3,200.

France immediately hit back at the UK last night, saying it 'regretted' the decision and would look to impose a 'reciprocal measure' on Brits arriving at its borders.





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Meanwhile Italy, which at one point was the epicentre of Europe's coronavirus crisis, said it hoped Britain would rethink its rules and called for a 'coordinated approach'.

Miss Patel last night confirmed that the new quarantine regime would apply to almost all arrivals, including people returning from holidays abroad.

But she also revealed a list of 39 categories of people who would be exempt from the rules, including healthcare workers, pilots and those coming over from Ireland.
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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#894 Post by ian16th » Sat May 23, 2020 2:45 pm

Woody wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 2:24 pm
those coming over from Ireland.
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Why?

They NEVER cooperate on anything and all-ways expect to be treated differently.
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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#895 Post by Woody » Sat May 23, 2020 2:56 pm

Obviously there’s scientific evidence, just like all the Government decisions =)) =))
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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#896 Post by Boac » Sun May 24, 2020 7:46 am

That's it! The latest 'Dominic' stupidity does it for me. 'Rumours' now of 3 trips away from home during 'lockdown'. We have also now discovered that '100,000 tests a day' probably means '50,000' since Tony Hancock appears to be counting the nasal and throat swabs on ONE PERSON as 2 tests!!??**. Chuck in the cross-Channel fiasco as well. Even if 'Domestic Dom' does go there are still too many other incompetents in the government.

Having been a Conservative b=voter for all but a couple of elections I will now not vote for this bunch of charlatans again. We are certainly 'working closely' with the US!

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#897 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sun May 24, 2020 7:54 am

Boac wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 7:46 am
That's it! The latest 'Dominic' stupidity does it for me. 'Rumours' now of 3 trips away from home during 'lockdown'. We have also now discovered that '100,000 tests a day' probably means '50,000' since Tony Hancock appears to be counting the nasal and throat swabs on ONE PERSON as 2 tests!!??**. Chuck in the cross-Channel fiasco as well. Even if 'Domestic Dom' does go there are still too many other incompetents in the government.

Having been a Conservative b=voter for all but a couple of elections I will now not vote for this bunch of charlatans again. We are certainly 'working closely' with the US!
And you didn't did even mention his whiffle waffleness, Lord Spaffer of Mendacity, the would be Churchillian, Johnson! :))
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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#898 Post by barkingmad » Sun May 24, 2020 8:12 am

Apart from a few lily-livered Tories, most of the baying hyenas calling for Cummings to be sacked are curiously those who most vociferously opposed Brexit. What a coincidence is that?
As far as I can see from the reports, DC and his wife did their best for their little child assuming the worst might happen after they were both infected. I have to assume those calling for blood would be happy for their 4-year old child to be taken into care by UK’s Social Services if the worst had happened and the child was left with both parents in hospital, at death’s door or beyond;



As usual, J T brings it into perspective but I would ask the o-N parents or ‘gramps’ of similar-aged children here what would they have done in similar circumstances?
I suspect if this was some little known Downing Street special advisor this news would have blown over long ago.
I note the column-inches and airtime devoted to the perceived risk of the Cummings journey to self-isolation compared with the little-reported unarmed invasion of the south coast of England, by fit young men with thousands of euros to spend on an escorted one-way day trip into the UK, without any sort of health screening if they’re unlucky enough to miss the welcome by the UK Border Force resources, paid for by guess who?!

Edit: Overnight UK poll (of whom?) saying 68% believe he is guilty and should be chopped. Not surprising after a very intense media campaign in a very short timescale.:-q

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#899 Post by Woody » Sun May 24, 2020 8:56 am

You may have to rethink that post BM.
Furious Tory MPs demanded Boris Johnson sack top aide Dominic Cummings today for breaking the coronavirus travel lockdown, as the first cracks in party unity appeared.

Steve Baker, a former Brexit minister and a senior hardline Brexiteer like Mr Cummings, broke cover to demand the advisor be removed, demanding the Prime Minister 'take back control' of events squirming from his grasp.

The Prime Minister has mounted a determined defence of his controversial lieutenant over revelations he travelled 270 miles from London to Durham while the public were told to stay at home, telling allies: 'It's not like he was visiting a lover.'
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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#900 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun May 24, 2020 9:24 am

We are with BM. Apparently it was not his grandparents home but that if his cousin's. The alternative might have been for the cousin to drive down.

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