Probably best for your blood pressureTheGreenAnger wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:30 amWoody wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:05 amNothing to worry about here
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/****
404 Not found. Now I am really worried!
Everything about Liz Truss was and still is dysfunctional!
WTF is happening in the UK?
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It might appear that Sunak is 'having difficulty' finding a replacement chair after sacking Zahawi. It also seems that the Cabinet Secretary, Case (an appropriate name, I feel....) 'forgot' to inform Sunak of the allegations against Raab, but, of course, Sunak has full confidence in Case........... (or should that be in case?)
Chairs and Cabinets - are they using MFI?
Chairs and Cabinets - are they using MFI?
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And Raab, by all accounts, is a nutcase.!
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Where can one find all these accounts of "nut casery" pray? Only because I'm curious you understand.
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The Abusive Screaming Tirade School of Management is even more prevalent in local government than it is in Westminster.
Actually, Raab isn't his surname, it's an Acronym.
Really Abusive Arrogant B@stard
Actually, Raab isn't his surname, it's an Acronym.
Really Abusive Arrogant B@stard
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Nein, no eight!Fox3WheresMyBanana wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:37 pmThe Abusive Screaming Tirade School of Management is even more prevalent in local government than it is in Westminster.
I am screaming! Do you hear me?
But what the **** does that matter, because, as good a dude as you are, you no longer have a scooby about the UK!
I am sure that you are a happier man for that, even if you don't accept that fact.
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I do not have a first-hand scooby about the UK, and I am indeed a happier man for that.
However, I do have friends and relatives in the UK, some placed to be quite knowledgeable about these matters, who keep me informed.
However, I do have friends and relatives in the UK, some placed to be quite knowledgeable about these matters, who keep me informed.
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Yeah, you make a good point.Fox3WheresMyBanana wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:50 pmI do not have a first-hand scooby about the UK, and I am indeed a happier man for that.
However, I do have friends and relatives in the UK, some placed to be quite knowledgeable about these matters, who keep me informed.
"Scooby" - School parlance from another era!
Post both eras I guess. Said to me by a supposed progeny!
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Liz Truss announces she's returning to campaign for leadership. No wonder the pound is down to 1.11.
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The only other country that's left the ECHR in the last 50 years is Vladimir Putin's Russia, which left last year.
Is this seriously the company our government wants to keep?
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That dismal fool of a woman has all the intellect and political acumen of a blow up rubber doll, what with her perpetual O mouth, dead eyes and cheese laden utterances!
- John CraceThe Guardian wrote:
Dimmer than she appears or totally dishonest? Liz Truss may be both
It wouldn’t have been many people’s idea of fun to have their demise spread over a 4,000-word essay in the Sunday Telegraph. Even fewer would choose to double down by giving a TV interview to the Spectator’s Katy Balls and Fraser Nelson the following day. But Liz Truss has often taken the road less travelled. The downside is that she’s yet to discover it’s less travelled for a reason. Still, it gives the rest of us a chance to reach our verdict. To decide whether she’s actually even dimmer than she appears. Or if she’s totally dishonest. Or both.
You’d have thought that someone who completely destroyed the record for the shortest serving prime minister and crashed the financial markets inside 50 days might want to step back from the limelight for a period of time. A couple of years minimum. Just to recover enough self-worth to be allowed out and about by herself again. Then she could start thinking about the future. The £115,000 a year every former prime minister can claim for expenses. The novelty act on the after-dinner speaking circuit.
But Librium Liz is the ultimate survivor of her own financial destruction. When all around her are still suffering from PTSD, she alone can hold the line. Tell her truth. She had done no wrong. More sinned against than sinning. No wonder Balls and Nelson had decided to do the interview as a double act. That way they could watch each other’s back. Stay firm in the face of an overpowering alternative reality.
So why had she chosen to break her silence now, Balls asked. Truss looked momentarily confused, before answering in the same flat monotone she used throughout the 50-minute interview. “I needed time,” Truss said. It was as if she had wilfully misunderstood the question. It wasn’t a matter of why she had taken so long to give an interview. More, why she had spoken out so quickly. Why not take some proper time out to reflect? Not just pile in three months after crashing the economy. Three months after blowing a hole in the public finances and causing interest rates to rise. Adding significantly to the cost of living crisis.
Surely the least we could expect was an apology. Think again. Librium Liz is not in the business of saying sorry. Rather, she was the one who was owed an apology. It was everyone else’s fault that there wasn’t the right governmental and financial infrastructure in place for her style of economics. There were commies close to the heart of No 10 who had been hellbent on making sure her tax reforms failed. There were militant leftwingers pointing out that disentangling the UK from the EU would lead to a 4% hit in GDP.
Then there was the Office of Budget Responsibility. They were all Bolsheviks dedicated to bringing down a free-market government. Nelson gently tried to steer Truss back to something approximating to reality. Wasn’t it the case that the government set its own fiscal rules and the job of the OBR was just to make sure Truss was meeting them? Librium Liz wasn’t having this. Her voice now so sedated it was almost hypnotic. Bending people to her will. Submission. The problem was that the OBR was too woke. It didn’t allow for fantasists like her. You could almost sense Nelson and Balls having to fight the urge to nod in agreement.
Truss did seem to admit to not knowing much about the markets. Other than that they too were manipulated by pinkos. There were socialists everywhere. Even at the centre of the Tory party. Someone should have told her that liability driven investments were agents of a Marxist state. It never once seemed to have occurred to her it might have been her job to predict the outcome of her own policies. That being prime minister meant taking responsibility. Or that the reason the markets tanked was down to her budget. Not that the budget failed because the markets tanked. She had little grasp of cause and effect.
On and on Librium Liz went. One non mea culpa after another. The cut in the 45p tax rate had been a good idea. Rishi Sunak should have loved it. The cut in corporation tax wasn’t technically a cut. Even though it was. The rise in interest rates was just an unfortunate coincidence. No one could possibly have foreseen it. She was right. Right, right, right. About everything. It was just the forces of socialist darkness who had been intent on bring her down. She would be redeemed. She was the Messiah. People would one day thank her, even as they were defaulting on their mortgages.
Surely it must have been a bit tough, Balls insisted. Truss paused. It was always tough being the only person who was right, she conceded. It had been tough for Kwasi Kwarteng. But tougher still for her to have to fire him. Would no one think of the pain she had been through? She had tried to build a New Jerusalem. One ruled by the rich and for the rich. She would be back. Her time would come again.
The Spectator duo tried to break Librium Liz down. To get one admission of remorse. One hint of humanity. Nothing doing. Nothing could get past the well-defended Truss psyche. She had said too much. She hadn’t said enough. Just her in the corner. Losing her religion.
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Dunning-Kruger
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+1
In spades when it comes to Liz Truss.
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..and in America, it's in No Trump
..and is also there with Trump!
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..and is also there with Trump!
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Words fail me:
Tampons offered in men’s toilets at Labour-run Welsh Parliament
Critics say move is a ‘virtue-signalling’ waste of taxpayer cash in Wales by First Minister Mark Drakeford
By Ewan Somerville 11 February 2023 • 7:00pm
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... arliament/
Tampons are now on offer in the men’s lavatories at the Labour-controlled Welsh Parliament.
The Senedd has rolled out the period products in all its male bathrooms, in an apparent attempt to help transgender civil servants.
Pictures shared with The Telegraph show large stocks of the items alongside urinals.
But critics said it is the latest “virtue-signalling” waste of taxpayer cash in Wales under First Minister Mark Drakeford, who this week rolled out the devolved Government’s long-awaited LGBT+ action plan, which pushes for controversial self-identified gender as in Scotland.
The tampons, introduced for all politicians and staff in Wales’s legislative centre in Cardiff, are accompanied by a sign that says: “These products are provided free of charge for all those that need them, following negotiation on your behalf by the Senedd Commission Trade Union Side.”
The Senedd, which has previously published reports on “people who menstruate”, is also home to gender-neutral lavatories, gender-neutral shower facilities and women’s toilets, all of which have tampons too.
Tom Giffard, Welsh Conservative member for South Wales West said: “It’s shocking that the Senedd can’t figure out the difference between a man and a woman – particularly at a time when they’re introducing gender quotas for elections.”
Tampons offered in men’s toilets at Labour-run Welsh Parliament
Critics say move is a ‘virtue-signalling’ waste of taxpayer cash in Wales by First Minister Mark Drakeford
By Ewan Somerville 11 February 2023 • 7:00pm
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... arliament/
Tampons are now on offer in the men’s lavatories at the Labour-controlled Welsh Parliament.
The Senedd has rolled out the period products in all its male bathrooms, in an apparent attempt to help transgender civil servants.
Pictures shared with The Telegraph show large stocks of the items alongside urinals.
But critics said it is the latest “virtue-signalling” waste of taxpayer cash in Wales under First Minister Mark Drakeford, who this week rolled out the devolved Government’s long-awaited LGBT+ action plan, which pushes for controversial self-identified gender as in Scotland.
The tampons, introduced for all politicians and staff in Wales’s legislative centre in Cardiff, are accompanied by a sign that says: “These products are provided free of charge for all those that need them, following negotiation on your behalf by the Senedd Commission Trade Union Side.”
The Senedd, which has previously published reports on “people who menstruate”, is also home to gender-neutral lavatories, gender-neutral shower facilities and women’s toilets, all of which have tampons too.
Tom Giffard, Welsh Conservative member for South Wales West said: “It’s shocking that the Senedd can’t figure out the difference between a man and a woman – particularly at a time when they’re introducing gender quotas for elections.”
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Is this the real motive behind the intransigence of the train drivers, and possibly more of their fellow strikers in the present rash of strikes? I thought it might be just to bring down the present government but maybe there's more behind all the present strikes.
Mick Lynch forced to reject pay deal as rail strikers plot to bring down capitalism
Whitehall insiders question whether RMT chief has lost control of union
By Oliver Gill, Chief Business Correspondent 10 February 2023 • 7:21pm
Mick Lynch rail strikes RMT
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... k-reveals/
Mick Lynch has been forced to reject a pay deal that would have ended the rail strikes following a backlash from union members plotting to bring down capitalism.
The Rail, Maritime and Transport workers union (RMT) general secretary turned down a wage increase of 9pc on Friday, despite his own deputies helping to draft the agreement attached to it.
Mr Lynch said: "Our members cannot accept the ripping up of their terms and conditions.”
The refusal to even put the offer to a ballot of the RMT’s 40,000 members has now left Government and industry sources questioning whether Mr Lynch has lost control of the union and is only “leader of the RMT in name”.
A Whitehall source said: "His statement today reads like a hostage note. It's probably a matter of time before he goes.”
An internal memo, seen by The Telegraph, reveals the pressure Mr Lynch is under from roughly 450 branch leaders.
The activists order Mr Lynch to do more to hasten “the suppression of the capitalist system by a socialistic order of society”.
They also call for rail strikes every Saturday to advance their agenda, and demand Mr Lynch increase members' fees to establish a war chest to pay strikers.
Mick Lynch forced to reject pay deal as rail strikers plot to bring down capitalism
Whitehall insiders question whether RMT chief has lost control of union
By Oliver Gill, Chief Business Correspondent 10 February 2023 • 7:21pm
Mick Lynch rail strikes RMT
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... k-reveals/
Mick Lynch has been forced to reject a pay deal that would have ended the rail strikes following a backlash from union members plotting to bring down capitalism.
The Rail, Maritime and Transport workers union (RMT) general secretary turned down a wage increase of 9pc on Friday, despite his own deputies helping to draft the agreement attached to it.
Mr Lynch said: "Our members cannot accept the ripping up of their terms and conditions.”
The refusal to even put the offer to a ballot of the RMT’s 40,000 members has now left Government and industry sources questioning whether Mr Lynch has lost control of the union and is only “leader of the RMT in name”.
A Whitehall source said: "His statement today reads like a hostage note. It's probably a matter of time before he goes.”
An internal memo, seen by The Telegraph, reveals the pressure Mr Lynch is under from roughly 450 branch leaders.
The activists order Mr Lynch to do more to hasten “the suppression of the capitalist system by a socialistic order of society”.
They also call for rail strikes every Saturday to advance their agenda, and demand Mr Lynch increase members' fees to establish a war chest to pay strikers.
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Slightly disingenuous as I understand it is around 4% a year over 2 years, and the crucial 'renegotiation' of T&C, including pensions, and the threatened closure of station ticket offices and other job losses all add up to the problem.a wage increase of 9pc on Friday,
To be honest, I find it difficult to accept that 'capitalism' is actually working? EG According to the media we have 3500 NHS managers on 'six figure salaries' while nurses were offered 3%. Is that 'capitalism'? The privatisation of the railways has also not been a blistering success. Thankfully I cannot see communism being the answer (which I suspect the Torygraph is hinting at) but I do think the system needs some changing.
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Agree - what about a measure of serious management policies to control an NHS which employs so many overpaid managers at the expense of the nurses and auxiliaries and the same time an organisation to control the expansion of the numbers of civil servants.
It used to be a fair criticism of the Navy that there were more admirals than ships - I think that has been controlled now - but I'm sure there are other areas of the Armed Services that are also leaking money at the expense of kit. One area ripe for pruning must be the MOD Procurement Executive.
We seem to have a Tory government pursuing Labour policies and come the next election there will be a Socialist party pursuing Conservative policies to get elected. Starmer seems to have controlled the more extreme sections of his party and I hope he keeps them in their box. His party couldn't do a worse job than the present bunch, or could they?
It used to be a fair criticism of the Navy that there were more admirals than ships - I think that has been controlled now - but I'm sure there are other areas of the Armed Services that are also leaking money at the expense of kit. One area ripe for pruning must be the MOD Procurement Executive.
We seem to have a Tory government pursuing Labour policies and come the next election there will be a Socialist party pursuing Conservative policies to get elected. Starmer seems to have controlled the more extreme sections of his party and I hope he keeps them in their box. His party couldn't do a worse job than the present bunch, or could they?
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Capitalism exists almost nowhere in western society.
Government control of markets, either by monopolies (e.g. education, healthcare), licencing, regulation, contracting, or differential taxation, prevents it.
n.b. healthcare is a monopoly in that you have to pay for the NHS for your treatment, even if you get it elsewhere. Ditto education.
Both could be more capitalist if the government restricted taxation to the level required to provide for the less fortunate, and the rest followed you to your chosen provider. Ditto education.
Same goes for licencing.All this is why you end up with a huge excess of highly salaried administrators, most of whom are in fact worse than useless. They do not increase productivity in the sense of better care, but also the money spent on them is money not spent on people who do, e.g. pay rises for nurses.Anything a government knows itself to be bad at, they turn into a monopoly. The so-called right wing parties turn it into a cartel of large companies who choose to donate to party funds. Either way, the individual gets screwed, and as consumer, taxpayer, and/or potential competitor.
Government control of markets, either by monopolies (e.g. education, healthcare), licencing, regulation, contracting, or differential taxation, prevents it.
n.b. healthcare is a monopoly in that you have to pay for the NHS for your treatment, even if you get it elsewhere. Ditto education.
Both could be more capitalist if the government restricted taxation to the level required to provide for the less fortunate, and the rest followed you to your chosen provider. Ditto education.
Same goes for licencing.All this is why you end up with a huge excess of highly salaried administrators, most of whom are in fact worse than useless. They do not increase productivity in the sense of better care, but also the money spent on them is money not spent on people who do, e.g. pay rises for nurses.Anything a government knows itself to be bad at, they turn into a monopoly. The so-called right wing parties turn it into a cartel of large companies who choose to donate to party funds. Either way, the individual gets screwed, and as consumer, taxpayer, and/or potential competitor.