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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5461 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:08 am

If you are wondering where this is all going, here's a Yale lecture on the Crisis of the Third Century in the Roman Empire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B9b9mUPJik

Debasement of the coinage?
Have a look at the actual cost of buying a real silver coin compared to the "market" price of silver.
Then compare that with 3 years ago.
And that change is on top of the destruction of value by inflation.
And that's real inflation, in your own costs, not what the government says inflation is.
Because the government is attempting to pull the exact same trick the Roman Emperors did, run the inflation at around 2-5% per annum more than they say they are doing.
Human nature hasn't changed much in 1800 years, most people don't notice a 3% per year lie.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5462 Post by Boac » Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:29 am

Encylopedia Britannica defines Capitalism as
Capitalism is a widely adopted economic system in which there is private ownership of the means of production. Modern capitalist systems usually include a market-oriented economy, in which the production and pricing of goods, as well as the income of individuals, are dictated to a greater extent by market forces resulting from interactions between private businesses and individuals than by central planning undertaken by a government or local institution. Capitalism is built on the concepts of private property, profit motive, and market competition.
As such it is a laudable idea. Where it fails is when governments control or influence the free ideals of Capitalism. As fox says, it does not really exist, certainly in the UK, where government brazenly and visibly 'interfere' with the resulting 'advantage' going to 'approved' people.

The Torygraph 'scoop' leaked 'internal memo'
“the suppression of the capitalist system by a socialistic order of society”.
indicates a dissatisfaction with the current system (which I share).

Again, the good Encyclopedia (somewhat lengthily! and with extracts) defines 'Socialism' as
socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources........... Society as a whole, therefore, should own or at least control property for the benefit of all its members.

This conviction puts socialism in opposition to capitalism, which is based on private ownership of the means of production and allows individual choices in a free market to determine how goods and services are distributed. Socialists complain that capitalism necessarily leads to unfair and exploitative concentrations of wealth and power in the hands of the relative few who emerge victorious from free-market competition—people who then use their wealth and power to reinforce their dominance in society. ..........
Sadly we daily see the worst of both ideals, neither of which really allow for human foibles (a major failure!!). The current 'situation' with Covid and vaccination, the WEF, etc etc is a clear example. Whether 'The Great Reset', whatever that may be, would solve the dilemma..................?

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5463 Post by Boac » Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:05 am

As a diversion, from the (Paywalled) Daily Telegraph https://t.co/OlLuhRAmdL

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5464 Post by TheGreenAnger » Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:04 am

Boac wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:05 am
As a diversion, from the (Paywalled) Daily Telegraph https://t.co/OlLuhRAmdL
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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5465 Post by Boac » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:06 pm

That requires the inevitable reply "Answers on a postcard, please" :))

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5466 Post by Woody » Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:09 pm

Boac wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:06 pm
That requires the inevitable reply "Answers on a postcard, please" :))
BM’s grain of rice seems appropriate B-)
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#5467 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:41 pm

Answers written in blood would seem even more appropriate ;)))

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5468 Post by FD2 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:59 pm

Thanks for re-posting #5456 Boac. 8-| i-)

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5469 Post by Boac » Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:38 pm

At least someone noticed :-h

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5471 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:04 pm

It's perfectly sensible when you consider the young gangster's priorities. The victim dissed him, in front of his homies. That's life-or-death to a gangster, and so the victim got knifed.
Which is why I never admonish someone I don't know.
This is where current policing priorities inevitably lead.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5472 Post by G-CPTN » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:12 pm

The attacker obviously hadn't the sense to realise the consequences of his inevitable apprehending, arrest and conviction.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5473 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Wed Feb 15, 2023 9:29 pm

inevitable ??

Stats have changed a lot very recently (England and Wales)
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... -2022-data
in 2020, 20% of murders had no one charged.
By 2022, over 30% had no one charged.
The number murdered were almost identical (689 v 699).
Only 80% of those charged were found guilty of murder.

That's basically a 50/50* chance for the gangster, which is a heck of a long way from inevitable. He'll take risks that big on drug deals occasionally.

*Actually 55/45

Where I live, the murder conviction rate is 100% and has been for over 40 years. Furthermore, there hasn't been a stranger murder for that long too.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5474 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Wed Feb 15, 2023 10:59 pm

p.s. Same kind of violence is happening in Canada, just not here.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ ... -1.6748398

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5475 Post by Boac » Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:15 pm

**** police again! Why on earth do the general public need to know whether the missing Nicola Bulley had 'problems' with alcohol or anything else? A total abuse of privacy.

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#5476 Post by TheGreenAnger » Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:33 pm

Boac wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 2:15 pm
**** police again! Why on earth do the general public need to know whether the missing Nicola Bulley had 'problems' with alcohol or anything else? A total abuse of privacy.
They really have bungled on the comms side of this investigation at every level.
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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5477 Post by OFSO » Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:07 pm

Home Office accepts court defeat on EU citizens scheme - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64663795

Another cockup. Cost taxpayer a fortune.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5478 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:39 pm

**** police again! Why on earth do the general public need to know whether the missing Nicola Bulley had 'problems' with alcohol or anything else? A total abuse of privacy.
You will be pleased to hear the Home Secretary agrees with you

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... a-bulleys/

The reason is the usual one, according to a Police Inspector I used to know. The Police are always under pressure for rapid solutions. Someone decided to leak this information as a reason for the lack of a rapid solution.
That's not to justify it, just to explain it.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5479 Post by Boac » Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:14 am

Unfortunately it doesn't.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5480 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:36 am

Doesn't explain why?
Politicians in power want nasty things to go away or be solved quickly. as all bad things damage their reputation with the public by association. Senior police get promoted for making that happen. Junior police likewise.

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