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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#2641 Post by Bob » Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:46 pm

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Strange how covidiots always manage to find someone who has **** all expertise in the subject at hand to show us all how things really are =))
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#2642 Post by Pontius Navigator » Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:03 pm

Nice one Bob.

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#2643 Post by barkingmad » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:24 am

I am assailed by a sense of unreality on waking this morning and the tinnitus in my ears which is BBC Radio 4 and the printed meeja keep telling me that “Boris Johnson has promised to roll out...” (insert your own improbable scheme) or “Boris Johnson has vowed to ensure that... (insert as before)!

Similarly Hancock solemnly informs us that the Vak Scene programme will accelerate and blah blah blah

Then someone else chips in and tells us that even after one has been Vak Scened it will still be possible to catch and to suffer from the virus later.

Finally another item tells me that herd immunity is already widespread and so it goes on.

And all the while THE GREAT RESET slowly gathers momentum and 1984 becomes more of a reality as the Vak Scene passport idea gains a hold on slavering politicians and drooling meeja journos.

And then my fan club here are continuing to snipe at me from their guvvment approved vantage points because I have the effrontery to air scepticism at the human reaction to the plague, whose existence I have never denied despite the accusations and smears repeated often enough to simulate fact. :-w

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#2644 Post by Boac » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:25 am

You hide it so well :))

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#2645 Post by barkingmad » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:21 am

Ooh dear! I had been persuaded by my ‘friends’ on this forum that I was completely barking, IAW the posting name, for openly exhibiting a healthy scepticism about the handling of the ‘plague’ by HMG and others and that I really should start/keep taking the medication until I was declared “better”.

Then I stumble across this by another ex-military vet who seems equally disturbed at the bigger picture;

“As I read through the table, it struck an immediate chord by its similarity to material that I had read during my time as a warfare officer in the Royal Navy in the Cold War period. Alongside 'open' techniques of warfare, the military warfare specialists were taught and warned of the types and dangers of subversive and psychological subversive warfare. In Cold War times, leading to the fall of the Berlin Wall (and the supposed fall of communism), most of these warnings were attributed to the military activities of the USSR and the Warsaw Bloc. In the reports and documentation to which I then had security-cleared access, it was evident that alongside more traditional and readily understood Soviet propaganda, the political and military application of psychology was a dark and highly specialised area of its own...

...as I read each line of the table with "Areas", "Methods" and "Intended Results", I realised that each and every one of these defined areas of attack were already in place in our society in the United Kingdom, and were delivering not some, but all of the intended results. The overwhelming implication that I drew from this was that British society, and our Nation State itself, were being attacked using highly effective subversive methods and psychology. Moreover, the UK public as a whole was completely unaware of this, even though they were seeing and experiencing the adverse effects in a number of areas within their personal, family, community and professional lives”.

“The excellent article...focuses attention of the present and very real circumstances of calculated and malicious psychological control of the public as part of the Covid 'pandemic'.
By pursuing this strategy in the series that follows, we will start to draw together an analysis as to the real origins of the use of applied psychology to manipulate individuals and the general public to the aims and objectives of a hostile state or ideological power.

At this stage, we ask the reader if they were even aware that in 2010 the UK Government boasted in its Mindspace document (p. 66, bottom) that it could change the way the public thought and behaved without us even knowing this had been done. Even if we assume that our government only has our best interests at heart, the document and techniques are surely of concern in that we were not widely and publicly informed of the intention to use such techniques. When we realise that our government clearly does not always have our best interests at heart, the applied behavioural psychology techniques in question become more chilling in their reality and implications”.

The table to which he refers is part of the book “The EU Collective: Enemy of Its Member States” by Christopher Story, published some time ago, which more inquisitive O-N members may like to peruse to gain a better insight into the “Big Picture” instead of inserting heads up arses and obsessing with ‘R’ number calculations and ICU capacity.

boac, I’m surprised you allowed this creation of yours to wither and die, atypical of your normal tenacity;

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=5919

Perhaps we oughta move the discussion of “The Big Picture” across to that thread and leave this thread to discussion of the Reform Party, BoJo and other trivia?

Incoming ! ! :-o

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#2646 Post by Boac » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:33 am

Thanks for dredging that up too, BM. (Do you get a discount at JCB?)

The reason I allowed it to wither (but not die) was that it lacked the usual 'video clip from the morgue with odd characters' response you normally provide. :))

You;ll need to ask Alison to move the topic. While I could I wouldn't dream of it. :-bd

PS No 'incoming' for your quote by this 'ex-military vet" - all opinions are available. Was he/she Cavalry or Military Police Dogs?

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#2647 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:33 am

barkingmad wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:21 am

Incoming ! ! :-o
As you have been so prolific in highlighting what you think is wrong with current government strategies (some of which criticism I agree with by the way although there seem to be some critical logical contradictions in your position and thinking). Please help me!

Arise like Luther and nail your 95 Theses to the door of the Wittenberg Castle church in Germany, or if not there, then, at least, to the metaphorical door of this fine international forum and explain clearly what your strategy might be in plain, simple, for we are plain Lutheran folk here and unwelcoming to baroque Papist words and woolly feelings, and tell us what your strategy for permanently quelling this contagion is.
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#2648 Post by barkingmad » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:26 pm

Start with;

https://gbdeclaration.org/

Query/suspend suspect PCR testing, which only inflates the “cases” figures thereby suiting ‘guvvments’ agenda, stop the “within 28 days” classification which inflates the “Covid deaths” figures thereby suiting...

Give a wider consideration to scientific consensus and opposing ideas instead of living in Fortress SAGE and NERVTAG deliberately isolating themselves from any alternative ideas and strategies.

That’s just for starters but my detractors here wiil doubtless make short shrift of it. Your call whilst I go outside and shovel snow for exercise purposes! :-w

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#2649 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:30 pm

barkingmad wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:26 pm
Start with;

https://gbdeclaration.org/

Query/suspend suspect PCR testing, which only inflates the “cases” figures thereby suiting ‘guvvments’ agenda, stop the “within 28 days” classification which inflates the “Covid deaths” figures thereby suiting...

Give a wider consideration to scientific consensus and opposing ideas instead of living in Fortress SAGE and NERVTAG deliberately isolating themselves from any alternative ideas and strategies.

That’s just for starters but my detractors here wiil doubtless make short shrift of it. Your call whilst I go outside and shovel snow for exercise purposes! :-w
No, but what do you think? Appeals to authority won't cut it here!
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#2650 Post by OFSO » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:57 pm

Mme OFSO served with lunch today an Alioli which would have killed off any virus known to man. Damned near killed me for that matter. The garlic should have been registered as a lethal weapon by the Two Brothers running the excellent fruit and veg shop.

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#2651 Post by Boac » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:22 pm

TGG wrote:No, but what do you think? Appeals to authority won't cut it here!
A waste of time, TGG. This man has NO ideas - except that everything is wrong.

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#2652 Post by barkingmad » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:15 pm

In posting this article I have set a bear trap into which my detractors on O-N will likely fall and injure themselves, I hope.

https://unherd.com/2021/01/dont-censor- ... -sceptics/

The pointy sticks at the bottom of the pit will probably hurt, but I will leave it to those left at ground level to highlight the danger signs said detractors failed to detect.

“like watching a Sèvres vase in the hands of a chimpanzee”.

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#2653 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:17 pm

barkingmad wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:15 pm
In posting this article I have set a bear trap into which my detractors on O-N will likely fall and injure themselves, I hope.

https://unherd.com/2021/01/dont-censor- ... -sceptics/

The pointy sticks at the bottom of the pit will probably hurt, but I will leave it to those left at ground level to highlight the danger signs said detractors failed to detect.

“like watching a Sèvres vase in the hands of a chimpanzee”.
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#2654 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:18 pm

Boac wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:22 pm
TGG wrote:No, but what do you think? Appeals to authority won't cut it here!
A waste of time, TGG. This man has NO ideas - except that everything is wrong.
Sadly, you appear to be right.

Another one of bm's ****...
Murray's views and ideology have been described as being proximate to the far-right by a number of academic and journalistic sources and he has been criticized for promoting far-right conspiracy theories and for being Islamophobic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Murray_(author)

bm why not just post a link to the Völkischer Beobachter and be done with it?
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#2655 Post by barkingmad » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:20 pm

TGG sez: "Murray's views and ideology have been described as being proximate to the far-right by a number of academic and journalistic sources and he has been criticized for promoting far-right conspiracy theories and for being Islamophobic".

Pray tell us from how FAR-LEFT are the number of academic and journalistic sources shooting at him?

Conventional wisdom now in the mad Western 'civilisation' is that ANYTHING right or even far-right is evil but everything left or far-left is good, 'woke', fluffy and generally friendly.

I suspect some of those " academic and journalistic sources " are mega pissed off at the success of his books, translated into many languages and widely selling and also are sulking at the attention he is receiving in the e-meeja world.

If anyone here has children and/or grandchildren, I suspect a reading of his books would leave you feeling very uncomfortable when considering your offspring's futures in the Britain and Europe of tomorrow. :-ss

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#2656 Post by Boac » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:21 pm

I have come to the conclusion that when BM was assembled the battery terminals were misread. :))

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#2657 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:26 pm

Boac wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:21 pm
I have come to the conclusion that when BM was assembled the battery terminals were misread. :))
Definitely somebody plugged him into a 2 phase circuit when he was meant to accept 3 phase (him being an Amigo and all). Look what the wrong phasing did to a submarine in South Africa.

https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa ... ne-1000853
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#2658 Post by Pontius Navigator » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:19 pm

Paddy factor?

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#2659 Post by barkingmad » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:52 pm

Here is a classic example of the Paddy (Power) factor;

While bookies are famed for giving you odds on any outcome you can imagine, it seems when it comes to Covid some things are out of play, as one Lockdown Sceptic (not me) discovered.

"I am not a betting man by nature but prior to the third lockdown the bookies were one of the few places of entertainment still open to the public. So on Christmas Eve I decided to amuse myself by placing a bet.

Paddy Power have a reputation of being able to give odds on anything you care to bet on so I wandered into one of their Glasgow branches, approached the counter and said that I wanted to place the following bet:

“I bet that 10 years from today Boris Johnson, Mark Drakeford and Nicola Sturgeon will have been sent to jail for the restrictions and other actions they took to impose lockdown.”

Apparently this was something of a deviation from the usual bets placed in the establishment and the guy and girl behind the counter were intrigued to know more (“what the f**k’s that all about?” as the girl put it).

I explained that two or three years from now very few people in the country will personally know someone that died of COVID-19 in the pandemic but that absolutely everyone will know someone who was financially ruined, committed suicide, developed mental health problems or died of cancer or other survivable illnesses that were not diagnosed or treated due to the lockdown restrictions.

By that time there will have been a full-scale enquiry. Rather than the outcome politicians are expecting at the moment (that the lockdown should have been earlier, harder, longer) the enquiry will show that the lockdown failed in its delusional objective of preventing the spread of an airborne respiratory virus and inflicted devastating economic and physical and mental health damage on the population that ultimately killed more people than COVID-19.

On the subject of Covid deaths the enquiry will also find that the tens of thousands of people claimed to have died “with Covid” is an outrageous distortion of the actual number of people whose deaths were genuinely due to the virus which will be a fraction of the Project Fear number being bandied about at present.

The enquiry will conclude that the real disaster in terms of lives and human misery was not COVID-19 but lockdown.

Then the blame begins.

Who is to blame for the coronavirus? Was it an act of God? A wet market culinary adventure too far? A bad day at the office for a Wuhan lab technician? We may never know.

Who is to blame for lockdown? Easy. Politicians. (And those “expert” SAGE members and broadcast media hacks but they are likely to wriggle off the hook. Not so the politicians – for a start people hate them already.)

The media will switch effortlessly from tear jerking “Covidiots Killed my Granny” stories to “Lockdown Let My Angel Boy Die of Cancer” front pages. People will be angry. People will want revenge. The clamour will grow. The process will be put in place.

The Paddy Power staff were very receptive to this reasoning but said they would have to phone “head office down south” to get the odds and that I should come back in an hour or so. So off I went for a wander round the shops that were open (normally I would have gone for a pint but hey, cretins).

When I returned the guy behind the counter looked up but seeing me his face fell. He said he thought it was a fun bet and he really wanted to know what odds it would get but that he had been told on the phone by his superiors that they “were not allowed to take any coronavirus related bets”.

So there you have it. Covid restrictions extend to Covid bets. I may not be able to put my money where my mouth is but in predicting that the lockdown criminals will end up behind bars I think I have picked a winner. Time will tell".

But don't let me distract folks here from fiddling with their latest 'R' number (and with anything else they might prefer!) and fretting over suspect 'cases' and ICU occupancy figures which means avoiding the prospect of facing the collateral damage already occurring but little publicised.

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#2660 Post by PHXPhlyer » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:08 pm

OFSO wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:57 pm
Mme OFSO served with lunch today an Alioli which would have killed off any virus known to man. Damned near killed me for that matter. The garlic should have been registered as a lethal weapon by the Two Brothers running the excellent fruit and veg shop.
Would Mme be willing to share her recipe for "Lethal Alioli"? ^:)^
If sounds like just the thing if it does kill off any virus known to man. :-bd

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