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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5501 Post by Wodrick » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:23 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:21 pm
Rossian wrote:
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Gas from decomposition helps float maybe?

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As an avid viewe of Silent Witness bodies reappearing like this is apparently normal. The other thing they will be keen to establish is time of death.
And I expect did she drown ?

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5502 Post by Pontius Navigator » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:32 pm

Wodrick wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:23 pm
Pontius Navigator wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:21 pm
Rossian wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:16 pm
Gas from decomposition helps float maybe?

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As an avid viewe of Silent Witness bodies reappearing like this is apparently normal. The other thing they will be keen to establish is time of death.
And I expect did she drown ?
Quite.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5503 Post by G-CPTN » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:52 pm

Apparently, the river at this point is just waist deep - and not deep enough to present a drowning risk - though people do drown in shallow water . . .
Wild swimmers say the stretch of river where Nicola Bulley vanished is shallow enough to walk.
“It’s about 1.6 metres deep but within another four or five metres going downstream, you can stand up. That river has a lot of corners in it and some of it almost comes back on itself. I won’t use the word safe with a river, people can drown in a puddle, but that river ticks all the boxes for beginners, it’s easy flowing, it’s not overly wide so you can get to the edge.”

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5504 Post by Pontius Navigator » Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:57 am

I waded the river entering Ennerdale. It was less than knee deep, barely boot deep even. It was fast flowing and difficult to maintain balance.
In 1.6 metres, had she slipped, clothes heavy, panicked, thermal shock, who can say?

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5505 Post by OFSO » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:46 pm

Headline on BBC: "BAFTA faces backlash over all-white winners".

Would there have been a "backlash" if the winners had all been black?

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5506 Post by G-CPTN » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:27 pm

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Would there have been a "blacklash" if the winners had all been black?

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5507 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:50 pm

War-torn Ukraine has more punctual trains than Britain
Trains turned up “on time” in the UK just 67.7pc of the time between July and September 2022, according to the most recent official statistics.

Alexander Kamyshin, chief executive of Ukrainian Railways, apologised on social media for the slip in punctuality.

He said: “I also want to apologise for breaking our OTP (on time performance) yesterday.

“We had to delay some of our trains to give way to #RailForceOne. It was painful for me and my team, but I had to do that. So only 90pc of our trains arrived on time yesterday. I apologise.”
says rail chief after Biden's visit

Last month it was reported that 307 railway workers have been killed and 665 injured since the outbreak of the war a year ago.
Worth remembering that no one launches missile attacks on British railways, and their electricity supply, every 2 weeks.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... s-britain/

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5508 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:59 pm

Supermarkets begin rationing fruit and vegetables
From tomorrow, Morrisons will only allow customers to buy a maximum of two each of tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuce, and peppers.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... e-news-uk/

Hey ho, this week I will be starting the seeds for my tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuce, and peppers. I should be self-sufficient from this year onwards.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5509 Post by Woody » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:47 pm

Lettuce and tomato shortage leads to debate over whether Brexit is to blame, sparking angry exchanges on Facebook between leaf and romaine supporters.
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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5510 Post by OFSO » Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:21 pm

If storms (or similar) in N Africa and Spain have caused shortages of fruit and veg in the UK, why are there no shortages in Spain (or France, Belgium, etc etc)?

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5511 Post by Boac » Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:57 pm

Your clue - 6 letters, begins with 'B'.................?

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5512 Post by Wodrick » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:02 pm

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Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:21 pm
If storms (or similar) in N Africa and Spain have caused shortages of fruit and veg in the UK, why are there no shortages in Spain (or France, Belgium, etc etc)?
In fact the shelves are overflowing, I do perceive prices notably higher than last week.

There are quite a few tourists around as it is half term in many countries.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5513 Post by OFSO » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:25 pm

Merde de Toro has eight letters!

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5514 Post by FD2 » Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:06 am

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Net zero is the reason we have empty supermarket shelves

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/0 ... in-starve/

If officials encouraged food production rather than virtue-signalling, farmers could easily fill the shelves

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22 February 2023 • 7:00pm

It wasn’t meant to be like this: rationing is back, now being introduced in some supermarkets for fruits and vegetables. Typically, the public debate remains stuck on Brexit – or “Vegxit”. But this is much more to do with cold weather in farming regions, poor harvests in North Africa and Spain, and continued high energy costs.

If public expectations are that they should be able to eat tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers in February, something previous generations could barely imagine, it is perhaps understandable that logistics along an attenuated supply chain will play a major part. Yet the fact that this has happened during a relatively normal period, without a pandemic or general strike, highlights once again that the model on which successive governments have based their food and farming strategies is now deeply flawed.

At the heart of the problem is a Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) still in the grip of the Green Blob and wholly uninterested in the messy business of producing food. The paradigm has shifted but the civil servants haven’t. Defra’s preoccupation remains “sustainability” and environmental management – seemingly denying that large quantities of food can be produced while maintaining high environmental standards.

In fact, in many respects, a regeneratively farmed environment can be better for biodiversity than “rewilded” land. Nevertheless, thanks to net zero targets, acres of productive land continue to be given over to solar farms, while the nation’s roofs remain relatively unpanelled. Trees are favoured in place of crops and animals. The Government’s flagship Environmental Land Management scheme has a bias towards cutting production. All of which won’t be much use if our people go hungry.

It’s not that there is any lack of vision around, just that the policy-makers have not allowed it to inform their decisions, sticking rigidly to the land-sparing rather than land-sharing approach of the EU’s Common Agricultural Policy.

We need to put our better land back into vegetables and fruit orchards, by getting our farmers off the hamster wheel of growing cereals to pump into cattle, pigs and poultry, with relatively inefficient conversion rates from grain to meat. We need to invest in new technologies such as insect farming to provide the feedstocks for pigs and poultry, and nudge consumer demand towards grass-fed meat and milk.

And we need to stop outsourcing our glasshouse vegetable production to the Spanish and the Dutch by building our own. But this shift in land use will not happen without incentives. And farmers, whose confidence in the Government’s agricultural policy has plummeted, need to feel more confident that they will be supported before they invest.

Instead, every obstacle is placed in the way of any attempt to change and diversify. Previous generations tended to fund farm infrastructure by selling off properties, but the current lack of any taper relief during a period of high inflation, and lack of rollover relief, renders this option unaffordable. Nor has there been much sign of efforts to cut the bureaucratic burden on farmers to counteract problems that might have arisen since Brexit. As Clarkson’s Farm 2 has recently shown, humorously but insightfully, the bonfire of red tape and planning legislation that farming entrepreneurs badly need still hasn’t happened.

It was to be hoped that Covid and then Ukraine would result in a new focus on food resilience and security. But the warnings have not been heeded; there has been paralysis in Whitehall, and now shoppers are seeing higher costs and rationing. Thérèse Coffey, the Secretary of State for Defra, has to rise to the challenge quickly and recognise that the plans her department has hitherto served up are not going to keep our supermarket shelves anywhere near full.

Aside from the politics, deep down, perhaps the lack of February tomatoes in the shops should also be taken as a wake-up call to us all that, if we are to keep within planetary boundaries, we need to make more effort to eat seasonal produce.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5515 Post by Woody » Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:06 am

Not a mention of the fact that farmers are unable to afford to pay for the fuel to heat the greenhouses to produce tomatoes etc.
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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5516 Post by OFSO » Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:18 am

Reduced crops due to poor weather in Spain? Rubbish. Supermarkets here in Spain have no shortages. Exports of fruit and veg into France same as ever.

Usual lies from an incompetent government refusing to admit Brexit has been a total disaster.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5517 Post by Woody » Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:06 am

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5518 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:06 pm

Not a mention of the fact that farmers are unable to afford to pay for the fuel to heat the greenhouses to produce tomatoes etc.
Eggs-actly!

It's not to the media's credit that I'm prepared to believe this isn't government censorship, and the media really are this stupid.

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5519 Post by Woody » Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:19 pm

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#5520 Post by Woody » Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:21 pm

Next on the menu :ymsick:

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