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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#4061 Post by FD2 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:45 am

Mr Wokeford: Labour activists revolt over Tory MP Christian Wakeford joining their ranks after it emerged he once aimed a foul-mouthed insult at them

Labour activists are furious after Christian Wakeford defected from the Tories
They say he 'should be nowhere near' Labour after previous insults emerged
Mr Wakeford was elected MP for Bury South in 2019 with wafer-thin 402 majority
Ally of PM said Mr Johnson was ‘delighted’ as it has given party a common enemy


By Harriet Line Chief Political Correspondent For The Daily Mail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ranks.html

Published: 09:59 AEDT, 20 January 2022 | Updated: 11:03 AEDT, 20 January 2022


Labour activists were in open revolt last night after Christian Wakeford joined their ranks.

The Bury South MP became the first Tory in 15 years to cross the floor of the Commons to sit on the Labour benches.

Labour members also took aim at the Tory turncoat who they said ‘should be nowhere near’ their party – after it emerged he once branded them a ‘bunch of c***s’.

But Mr Wakeford said last night that he will continue to represent the people of Bury South, the Red Wall seat where he was elected in 2019 with a wafer-thin 402 majority.

He rejected pressure to trigger a by-election – despite previously supporting a backbench bill that called for any MP who switches parties to face a recall petition.


:ymdevil: They're probably upset because he's taken a leaf out of their own insults vocabulary!! Finds new principals but ditches previous ones. Politicians eh?

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#4062 Post by FD2 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:46 am

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Re: WTF is happening in the UK?

#4063 Post by Boac » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:53 am

I see that piece of dog muck 'Tommy Robinson' (actually Stephen Yaxley-Lennon) declared himself bankrupt i March to avoid paying around £2million he owes to various people. One of the Farrago's mates.

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#4064 Post by om15 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:18 am

boac, if I might politely correct your completely untrue and misleading assertion that Nigel Farage is a friend of Tommy Robinson, like much of your political assertions aired on here it is based on wishful thinking rather than actual facts.

On the 23 November 2018 Mr Farage spoke to the BBC radio 4 and said this.
"The NEC of the party voted overwhelmingly last week not to have a ballot of members to let the man, potentially, join the party," Mr Farage told Radio 4's Today programme.

"But Gerard Batten has got this sort of fixation with Tommy Robinson and discussing Islam, and dragging Ukip into a direction of effectively being a sort of street activist party."

Farage later told the Press Association he was concerned a pro-Brexit rally Mr Batten and Mr Robinson are planning for December 9 in London could undermine efforts to defeat Theresa May's Withdrawal Agreement in a Commons vote in the following days.

"It's a march through Westminster," said Mr Farage. "I know what will happen. It will be full of skinheads and people with tattoos to the eyeballs, they'll all be drunk before they get there, there'll be punch-ups and God knows what.

"And the next day, it's the vote on the Brexit thing. And this is how Brexit will look - it'll look like a bunch of far-right football thugs - and I am absolutely disgusted by it.

"I've held my silence as a former party leader until now but we now have to get rid of this bloke as leader because he's not just damaging Ukip, he's damaging Brexit."

Farage said he was writing to the Ukip National Executive Committee to call for a vote of no confidence in Batten as leader.
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#4065 Post by AtomKraft » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:25 am

As far as the TV license goes, as a few people have pointed out, while the 'TV License' is a uniquely British thing, some form of charging for TV isn't.

The problem is the BBC itself.

I wouldn't mind paying for objective reporting of facts & events and for some entertainment.

What I object to is being forced to cough up so that the Beeb can ram a lot of woke, diverse, lefty drivel, biased reporting and 'right on' programming down my throat.

And right there, is the problem.

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#4066 Post by om15 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:33 pm

after it emerged he once branded them a ‘bunch of c***s’.
This short clip demonstrates just how hopeless and useless the current Labour party are, -


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#4067 Post by barkingmad » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:39 pm

They're all a pile of ordure, ordure as the Speaker of the House is wont to utter frequently.

A calm quiet angry voice here in a couple of minutes of barely controlled rage:



And when the great unwashed have had their remaining pennies dropped, how long before the "Blades" start to drop, either electorally or literally? :-?

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#4068 Post by FD2 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:29 pm

AtomKraft wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:25 am
As far as the TV license goes, as a few people have pointed out, while the 'TV License' is a uniquely British thing, some form of charging for TV isn't.

The problem is the BBC itself.

I wouldn't mind paying for objective reporting of facts & events and for some entertainment.

What I object to is being forced to cough up so that the Beeb can ram a lot of woke, diverse, lefty drivel, biased reporting and 'right on' programming down my throat.

And right there, is the problem.
Agree.

If anyone is keen on getting rid of the BBC altogether they should come to New Zealand and watch TV here where it is wall to wall adverts. The Licence Fee was scrapped some years ago so the TV stations have to be self-financing. It is a real pleasure to watch a good programme right through on a paid for streaming channel, without dramatic moments being interrupted by shouty adverts, so supervise the BBC with an impartial committee (or whatever the solution is) but don't scrap it!

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#4069 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:36 pm

FD2 wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:29 pm
AtomKraft wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:25 am
As far as the TV license goes, as a few people have pointed out, while the 'TV License' is a uniquely British thing, some form of charging for TV isn't.

The problem is the BBC itself.

I wouldn't mind paying for objective reporting of facts & events and for some entertainment.

What I object to is being forced to cough up so that the Beeb can ram a lot of woke, diverse, lefty drivel, biased reporting and 'right on' programming down my throat.

And right there, is the problem.
Agree.

If anyone is keen on getting rid of the BBC altogether they should come to New Zealand and watch TV here where it is wall to wall adverts. The Licence Fee was scrapped some years ago so the TV stations have to be self-financing. It is a real pleasure to watch a good programme right through on a paid for streaming channel, without dramatic moments being interrupted by shouty adverts, so supervise the BBC with an impartial committee (or whatever the solution is) but don't scrap it!
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#4070 Post by Boac » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:54 pm

Now the pig dictator faces allegations of blackmail of 'dissenting Tory MPs' by HIS Whips, of which, of course, he knows nothing.

When will the Toridiots awake?

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#4071 Post by barkingmad » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:49 pm

Boac wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:54 pm
Now the pig dictator faces allegations of blackmail of 'dissenting Tory MPs' by HIS Whips, of which, of course, he knows nothing.

When will the Toridiots awake?
And when they do, what do you think they'll do next, agitate for a G E so's the brilliant QC brain, former Attorney General and all-round good egg Sir Steer Calmer can step into Drowning Street and bring in harsher lockdowns and compulsory triple-ply masking??

The same guy who was at the head of Director of Public Prosecutions who fiddled whilst the Rotherham and Rochdale young victims were ignored and their concerned parents were arrested for agitating for proper Plod action. Tosser...!

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#4072 Post by Boac » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:12 pm

Unlike you, I could not predict the results of a GE.

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#4074 Post by FD2 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:32 pm

Re-bullying whips - I thought that they were chosen for their kind and sympathetic manner and that was how they behaved when an important vote was due? ;))) :D

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#4075 Post by FD2 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:11 am

Another paper quotes Bunter as saying he had no idea this was happening. Remember, those of us who served HMQ, that the person at the top took responsibility for what his people did, whether he/she knew or not. I don't know what it will take to dislodge Bunter or Sleepy Joe either for that matter. Are there any honourable politicians ready to give it a go?

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#4076 Post by prospector » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:26 am

" Are there any honourable politicians ready to give it a go?" Sure there must be some somewhere, but who is likely to put their hand up when your past, even back many years, is likely to be dredged up and gone over with a toothcomb to see if you have any anti-woke activities in your history.

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#4077 Post by om15 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:16 am

This is the tweet Rory Stewart made just before he came last in the leadership contest, he is a remainer that hates Boris.

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Here is the results of a poll showing support for the Prime Minister.

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#4078 Post by om15 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:29 am

Fraser Nelson writes today,
How surprised can we really be about Boris Johnson’s No 10 shenanigans? He has always been a rule-flouting, outrage-inducing politician – that’s why he managed to deliver Brexit, save the Conservative Party and win the biggest majority they’ve seen in a generation. Covid-19 restrictions are now being dropped because his vaccine programme (again) triumphed. He has arguably achieved more in 30 months than John Major did in seven years – and he gets kicked out because his staff held a few parties?

But then again, think of all that hypocrisy. No one forced him to send the police after those who broke lockdown rules, but he did so anyway. Then the “fear” campaign, those close-up posters of dying Covid patients. “Look her in the eyes, and tell her you never bend the rules,” said one of them. Now it turns out that this propaganda was ordered by the chief rule-breakers, out on regular booze runs to the off-licence with a specially designated wine suitcase. How to defend that?

You can’t. But nor can I quite bring myself to say that I want Boris Johnson gone. I can certainly see the case for his defenestration: his approval ratings are heading to sub-Gordon Brown territory, and we all know that public trust, once lost, is hard to win back. Reneging on his manifesto pledge not to raise taxes remains an important symbol of his approach to promises. But can we be sure that there really is no saving him? I’m not ready to say that; not yet. He needs – nay, deserves – more time.

Here’s my case. No leader, anywhere, has emerged from Covid-19 covered in glory. Britain ended up with a fatality rate around the European average but needlessly extended lockdowns gave us the worst economic damage. Such damage can be repaired, but the all-important question is whether it will be. This No 10 soap opera, dismal though it is, matters less than whether we can rebuild. And here, Johnson can ask to be judged by his achievements.

It is starting to look like the pandemic left a smaller economic scar than anyone imagined, with recovery running about a year ahead of what was feared just after lockdown. The furlough scheme, while hugely expensive, seems to have worked. As have the jabs: Britain’s booster protection levels are now higher than any European country save for Denmark – and, as a result, we’re now able to abolish Covid restrictions while others are mired in them.

Johnson’s rejection of lockdown was also pretty bold, given that Sage advisers had told him that his failure to act could mean Covid-induced deaths running between 600 and 6,000 a day by about now. The actual figure now stands at around 200. England is reopening with masks no longer mandated in schools (or, soon, churches) and work-from-home advice scrapped. Had he taken Sage’s advice we’d be midway through a winter lockdown. Instead, he listened to the opposition voices in his Cabinet. It worked.

So on the most important issues – vaccines to blunt the impact of the omicron wave, protecting the public from a needless lockdown – he succeeded. But it looks like failure because he has been facing fresh partygate allegations every couple of days. His inability to tell the whole truth about the shenanigans in No 10 (the first rule of managing any crisis) has allowed the drip-drip of revelations to go on for weeks. His failures have occluded his successes, and he’s very much to blame.

To many Tories, the best case for removing him is that when Covid is over, he’ll continue his depressing slide into illiberal Conservatism and keep edging away from the principles he used to champion. Once Britain’s most vociferous opponent of identity cards, he went on to push through vaccine passports (not compulsory anymore, but still around). In April, he’ll raise taxes again – and keep pushing them to a 71-year high. If he stays, he might have nothing more to offer than big-government conservatism.

What happened to his low-tax, small-state Merry England conservatism? The journalistic spirit was willing but the prime ministerial flesh proved weak: he has come to see “more government” as the solution to most problems. If this continues then, as one rebel MP puts it, “we will have no reason for anyone to vote Tory in the next election”.

There is a way out of this. He can cancel the April tax rise – citing the cost-of-living crisis – and roll out a post-omicron recovery plan. He could go all-out for growth, scrap all Covid regulations (including the plan to fire unjabbed NHS staff) and get back to the liberal Conservative agenda on which he stood for leader. The May elections give a chance to see if he can still win votes on a “recovery” theme. The end of omicron gives him a chance to test this – and try to turn a new page.

Would he take this opportunity? I’d say it’s 50/50. He’d need to assemble a new No 10 team, ending this tragicomedy of errors. Those who think Johnson needs to go believe him incapable of this. But I’m writing this from his old desk and know how he did my job so well: he had a genius for finding, inspiring and empowering brilliant people. He did that too as London mayor. Can this gift really have deserted him now, when he needs it most?

If the ball were to come loose from the scrum and end up in the hands of Rishi Sunak, I suspect he’d play it quite well. Mayhem would stop, tax would start going down not up – and he is, according to a recent poll, easily the most popular Conservative in Red Wall seats. But he could only take the job after a brutal leadership contest that would risk exposing Tories at their clannish, self-obsessed and regicidal worst.

So the best outcome for the Tories, still, is that Boris stays, shapes up and starts to govern. He might not get the choice when the Sue Gray report comes out: its contents could, still, finish him. His political life still hangs in the balance, as it has done for so much of his career. To the exhaustion and despair of his admirers, he has always specialised in near-death experiences and Lazarus-style recoveries. He might, yet, have one more left in him.

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#4079 Post by Bob » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:09 am

he had a genius for finding, inspiring and empowering brilliant people
Thanks OM I needed a chuckle this morning :))
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#4080 Post by Boac » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:10 am

His basic problem if he tries (or is even capable of 'trying') to "assemble a new No 10 team" is to find anyone capable in the load of dross the Toridiots have voted into power.

Even his mother and teachers recognised he was virtually incapable of anything productive except shagging - a qualification which unfortunately escaped the notice of the Toridiots.

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