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https://www.ops-normal.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=6773Pontius Navigator wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:41 pmAK, there is certainly enough to convince me that Hill the Museum is in NZ.
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Singapore and Malaysia were left with decent forms of government, but Malaysia is corrupt as fukk while neighbouring Singapore is reasonably clean.John Hill wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:17 pmIn many countries the corruption is deep rooted and can be traced back to the colonial governments which failed to leave proper systems of governance in place when they left. We can see the same thing in modern times including the total failure to leave decent governance in Afghanistan and 'That Bastard Syngman Rhee' in Korea, just two examples from doubtless many.
I don't see a pattern there. I also don't see many Malaysians on those rubber boats.
Rhodesia/Zimbabwe had a good structure of government bequeathed to them. Look what they did with it. They inverted the racist nonsense of the Smith regime and booted out the white farmers who had capital and knowhow; and replaced them with locals who had neither. They elected a graduate of the London School of Economics who thought that you can borrow your way out of debt and that you can print money to create wealth. (Not that the UK or US gumments would do such a thing of course )
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One tends to forget Myanmar. Independent for 73 years having been under British control for only 64 years with Japan controlling it for 4 or that time.
64 years was not a long time to destroy their previous system and impose an enduring system.
64 years was not a long time to destroy their previous system and impose an enduring system.
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My point John is YOU are everything you complain about.
YOU live in one of our ex colonies, and it isn't a shithole.
YOU are a migrant, unless you happen to be a Maori? No doubt descended from the UK or somewhere else in Europe.
YOU displaced the locals, to their great disadvantage, when you moved in.
Not everything is the fault of the Europeans or the Brits.
YOU live in one of our ex colonies, and it isn't a shithole.
YOU are a migrant, unless you happen to be a Maori? No doubt descended from the UK or somewhere else in Europe.
YOU displaced the locals, to their great disadvantage, when you moved in.
Not everything is the fault of the Europeans or the Brits.
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AtomKraft wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:11 amMy point John is YOU are everything you complain about.
YOU live in one of our ex colonies, and it isn't a shithole.
YOU are a migrant, unless you happen to be a Maori? No doubt descended from the UK or somewhere else in Europe.
YOU displaced the locals, to their great disadvantage, when you moved in.
Not everything is the fault of the Europeans or the Brits.
Do you feel better now? That's all good then.
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Both Singapore and Malaysia emerged independent after war and upheaval and if I remember correctly Singapore was originally part of Malaysia but there was just too much to be sorted out and Singapore left (expelled?) to go it alone.Undried Plum wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:43 amSingapore and Malaysia were left with decent forms of government, but Malaysia is corrupt as fukk while neighbouring Singapore is reasonably clean.John Hill wrote: ↑Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:17 pmIn many countries the corruption is deep rooted and can be traced back to the colonial governments which failed to leave proper systems of governance in place when they left. We can see the same thing in modern times including the total failure to leave decent governance in Afghanistan and 'That Bastard Syngman Rhee' in Korea, just two examples from doubtless many.
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Please don't blame 18th and 19th century colonialism for the criminality of the criminal migrants in 2021/2022.
UK criminal law is not to blame for foreigners' criminality. The criminals are responsible for their own crimes and should be held to account, not rewarded for their crimes.
UK criminal law is not to blame for foreigners' criminality. The criminals are responsible for their own crimes and should be held to account, not rewarded for their crimes.
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The colonial period sets the environment at the time of independence.Undried Plum wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:43 amPlease don't blame 18th and 19th century colonialism for the criminality of the criminal migrants in 2021/2022.
How the new country develops depends on where it is starting from, if the country is in good shape it has a good chance of positive development but if the country starts in poor shape it will likely stay that way.
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Aagh.. I will say nothing!
Though you remain
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"To be alive
You must have somewhere
To go
Your destination remains
Elusive."
Convinced
"To be alive
You must have somewhere
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Your destination remains
Elusive."
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No.
The colonial period sets the beginning of the period of a colony. Never the end. That's when so called "independence" ends.
The end comes when we end of the colony, for that time being.
Not the end of when they breed in in our the home Petri dish. Unfortunately.
Currently, we have a massive problem of survivors of our bombings of the UKUSA onslaughts.
We have also have many millions of also-riders who are riding along in the tailride of the English language. They, embarrassingly, seem to be the almost the worst of the bombers. The Murricans are the worst.
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I am sorry but your words appear to be a bit jumbled.Undried Plum wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:02 pmThe colonial period sets the beginning of the period of a colony. Never the end. That's when so called "independence" ends.
The end comes when we end of the colony, for that time being.
Not the end of when they breed in in our the home Petri dish. Unfortunately.
Currently, we have a massive problem of survivors of our bombings of the UKUSA onslaughts.
We have also have many millions of also-riders who are riding along in the tailride of the English language. They, embarrassingly, seem to be the almost the worst of the bombers. The Murricans are the worst.
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I am not sure that is an improvement but I am quite confident that it is no worse.
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Curious. Almost a week with no comment here. Or in the press come to that. I saw the M word in an article in the Telegraph today.
What's happened to Ms? The media moved on?
What's happened to Ms? The media moved on?
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Bonking Boris is providing the dead cat.
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We look at you too, Caco, and don't like what we see, but we love you anyway.TheGreenGoblin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:19 pmI do, I look at myself every day and every night, and don't like what I see...
What have we wrought?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Because they stand on the wall and say "nothing's gonna hurt you tonight, not on my watch".
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Same to you and yours Dushan...Dushan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:05 pmWe look at you too, Caco, and don't like what we see, but we love you anyway.TheGreenGoblin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:19 pmI do, I look at myself every day and every night, and don't like what I see...
What have we wrought?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
I am fine man and so are you...
Though you remain
Convinced
"To be alive
You must have somewhere
To go
Your destination remains
Elusive."
Convinced
"To be alive
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Your destination remains
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Meanwhile, back at the subject of the OP;
If the current rate of illegal arrivals matches the previous annual totals, will the British Isles list gradually, then heel over and capsize into the eastern Atlantic Ocean?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -2022.html
And how much physical accommodation plus money for resources like housing, education, medical and employment opportunities will there be for the Ukrainian refugees, who seem to be gaining the popular vote.
We can’t push the coast out into the sea like the Cloggies have done and indeed those very seas are reducing the Isles landmass size.
But of course was it Stanley Johnson, father to our fertile Pig Dictator, who stated in his book the ideal population of Britain would be circa 15,000,000?
That’s going to be a difficult target to reach by 2030 when we will all be breathing fresh unpolluted air whilst shivering in our cellars wearing animal skins.
Sounds like the plot of a dystopian sci-fi novel but look how that literary genre has foretold some current technological and social changes?
If the current rate of illegal arrivals matches the previous annual totals, will the British Isles list gradually, then heel over and capsize into the eastern Atlantic Ocean?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -2022.html
And how much physical accommodation plus money for resources like housing, education, medical and employment opportunities will there be for the Ukrainian refugees, who seem to be gaining the popular vote.
We can’t push the coast out into the sea like the Cloggies have done and indeed those very seas are reducing the Isles landmass size.
But of course was it Stanley Johnson, father to our fertile Pig Dictator, who stated in his book the ideal population of Britain would be circa 15,000,000?
That’s going to be a difficult target to reach by 2030 when we will all be breathing fresh unpolluted air whilst shivering in our cellars wearing animal skins.
Sounds like the plot of a dystopian sci-fi novel but look how that literary genre has foretold some current technological and social changes?
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In a Country with free healthcare and Social Security, unfettered immigration is literally unsustainable.
As we are presently enjoying effectively uncontrolled immigration, it's only a matter of time.
This old codger seems to be in the right of it here.
As we are presently enjoying effectively uncontrolled immigration, it's only a matter of time.
This old codger seems to be in the right of it here.