Migrants

[Undried Plum]

[Undried Plum]

Many months ago Nigel Fromage predicted that more than 20,000 criminal entrants would enter Britain across the Channel this year unless the British and ffrench governments changed their current policy.

He was right.

And so it goes on.

[AtomKraft]

Nobody want these people, and that includes the French.
Why would the Frogs try very hard to stop them leaving France?
We can't get rid of them, but if they all decided they want to move to France we'd be overjoyed a and let's face it, we wouldn't be trying so hard to stop them.

If we want these illegals to stop, we need to remove the bait they are so keen to taste.

[Boac]

Just when do we get to BoJo's promised land of controlling our borders?

[G-CPTN]

There is an industry manufacturing and supplying the vessels used by these migrants to cross the Channel - it has been suggested that these be traced to locate and identify the people who are facilitating this industry.

[Rwy in Sight]

Nobody want these people, and that includes the French.
Why would the Frogs try very hard to stop them leaving France?
We can't get rid of them, but if they all decided they want to move to France we'd be overjoyed a and let's face it, we wouldn't be trying so hard to stop them.

If we want these illegals to stop, we need to remove the bait they are so keen to taste.

Maybe my English is weak but bait is something you give to catch something you need and wouldn't catch it otherwise. The various allowances are not bait - they are very serious motives to take massive risks for even larger awards.

G-CPTN those skiffs are in use in many events and other purposes.

[Undried Plum]

There is an industry manufacturing and supplying the vessels used by these migrants to cross the Channel - it has been suggested that these be traced to locate and identify the people who are facilitating this industry.

The combined resources of SIS and SS and GCHQ and MoD could easily track and disrupt the organised crime rings involved in the people smuggling racket. UKSF could easily insert sufficient manpower and equipment to apprehend the scrotes using necessary force up to, and hopefully excluding, the use of lethal force.

Clearly the ffrog government are not our allies any more. Those days are long gone, as de Gaulle proved to us many decades ago. It's now time for the British Government to start treating this invasion as if it were a threat to our national defence.

MoD has done nothing to defend Britain since the Second World War. Now is payback time for the Billions and Billions of Pounds that we have pissed against the Portland limestone walls of Main Building. Put the buggers to work to do something useful for a change.

It should be made clear that henceforth 100% of illegal immigrants will be apprehended and placed in very uncomfortable prison camps from which the only release will be forced deportation to their country of origin or a worse substitute. Peterhead, Ras Gharib, St Kilda, South Georgia etc are all ideal nasty places to hold the bastards pending deportation on Murricane style prisoner transport aircraft such as are routinely used to ferry prisoners around the US by Marshalls and around the world between torture centers by CIA owned front companies using white tailed aircraft of all sizes.

The message will pretty soon get back to the shithole countries that are the source of these criminals and the currently steady stream of the bastards to our shore will soon dry up, just as happened when the Strines got tough on their similar problem.

The bastards are paying something of the order of five thousands Pounds/Euros/Dollars to the crime syndicates for a ticket to Heaven. It's big business, just like the MoD's budget. Let's put the security services and the armed forces to work.

[Undried Plum]

**** is the MoD doing to prevent a thousand criminal immigrants a day from crossing our border?



Where is the British Army in all this problem that we have quite literally on our doorstep?

Where is the air force?

Where is the navy?

Where are the security forces services wankers in all this?

Absent with leave?

[Pontius Navigator]

UP, whilst the ditch kept the Spanish, French, and Germans out (but not the Romans, Normans, Norwegians, Danes or Dutch), it only worked if we shot those who tried to cross it.

For the last few hundred years we have preferred to play away. How would you deploy the Army and Navy for home matches?

[OFSO]

Hartlepool?

[Smeagol]

Hartlepool?

Shirley, one cannot say 'Monkey hangers' in today's woke climate?

[TheGreenGoblin]

**** is the MoD doing to prevent a thousand criminal immigrants a day from crossing our border?



Where is the British Army in all this problem that we have quite literally on our doorstep?

Where is the air force?

Where is the navy?

Where are the security forces services wankers in all this?

Absent with leave?

Go back to the basis of this and look at the concept of causation and what has happened in places whence comes this horde and then...




I do, I look at myself every day and every night, and don't like what I see...

What have we wrought?

[TheGreenGoblin]

Wars, famine, the outriders of hell....

[om15]

It appears that Johnson is panicking over this, he has by-passed Patel and put a brand new Migration Minister in charge.

Such is the crisis over the current situation, the Prime Minister has now called in Stephen Barclay to oversee attempts to draw up new policies. It is understood the Government is concerned the number of migrant crossings may spike next spring due to the warmer temperatures, while there are also no current viable policies available to stop them. The Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster will now be called in to draft policies and make sure all departments are now involved where possible.

The now familiar daily scene is being shown in the newspapers, just so everyone can see.

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[TheGreenGoblin]

It appears that Johnson is panicking over this, he has by-passed Patel and put a brand new Migration Minister in charge.

Such is the crisis over the current situation, the Prime Minister has now called in Stephen Barclay to oversee attempts to draw up new policies. It is understood the Government is concerned the number of migrant crossings may spike next spring due to the warmer temperatures, while there are also no current viable policies available to stop them. The Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster will now be called in to draft policies and make sure all departments are now involved where possible.

The now familiar daily scene is being shown in the newspapers, just so everyone can see.



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But like all the other idiots, like yourself, you don't understand the basis of this, you are too simple, to **** stupid or just too **** evil to understand...

I will say no more...

When an honest decent man dies, I ask, why Lord, why him, when others deserve it so much more?

Sue me for that you ****!

[TheGreenGoblin]

[bob2s]

I think it is time for someone to think about joining Alcoholics Anonymous, their lack of respect for other forum members is becoming untenable!

[TheGreenGoblin]

I think it is time for someone to think about joining Alcoholics Anonymous, their lack of respect for other forum members is becoming untenable!

It is easy to denigrate a man, be very careful, I would be delighted to make the last years of your life very miserable. I am a lawyer by trade, and am litigious by nature...

[om15]

A good article in the Sunday Telegraph this morning,

Boris Johnson has been warned the migrant crisis could “destroy” the Conservative Party, as a Telegraph poll showed the overwhelming majority of Tory voters believe the Government's approach to Channel crossings is "too soft".

On Saturday, a prominent party donor declared ministers must do “far more” to tackle the problem, warning that immigration is “going to destroy us and there is going to be a [Nigel] Farage-style party”.

The Telegraph can reveal Mr Johnson's own MPs erupted in anger over the issue when he appeared at the powerful backbench 1922 committee last week.

The donor, who asked to remain anonymous, accused Mr Johnson of mirroring David Cameron’s drift to the centre during the Coalition administration, branding the situation “catastrophic”.

“When you move to the centre, you open up a gap in your right flank and somebody comes in and sets up there. You can't get a majority there,” the donor said.

Mr Johnson is also facing wider criticism coming from his own ministers, including those usually seen as loyalists.

One Cabinet minister last week privately expressed complete disagreement with the Government's economic policy. Another minister told The Telegraph that the Government was "shot" and entirely bereft of ideas. A third said that it was like "a dead man walking" and that the Tories would probably only recover after a period in opposition.

This newspaper can also reveal concern among ministers that freeports - a key plank of the Government's post-Brexit strategy - have been watered down by Treasury mandarins. Mr Johnson has also been forced to shelve his dream for a bridge or tunnel connecting Northern Ireland with Scotland, after a review found it would be too expensive and technically challenging.

More than 24,500 migrants have reached the UK already in 2021, nearly treble the total for last year. This month alone, arrivals have reached 5,000 - the highest monthly figure ever, despite the colder temperatures and dangerous conditions at sea.

Groups of children and adults, some wrapped in blankets, were pictured arriving in Kent on Saturday after crossing the channel.

‘If we’re 10 points behind next year, then there’s the problem’
New polling for this newspaper showed that 55 per cent of the public and 77 per cent of voters who backed the Tories at the last election believe the Government’s approach to managing Channel crossings is “too soft”.


Migration was also the performance area in which Mr Johnson received the worst negative ratings from voters, with 54 per cent disapproving and just 21 per cent approving, according to the online survey by Redfield and Wilton Strategies.


Priti Patel, the Home Secretary, also faces pressure over her role in combating the crisis, with 53 per cent disapproving of her performance in tackling Channel crossings and just 19 per cent approving.


Senior Tories see the party’s performance in next May’s council elections - six months from now - as a litmus test of Mr Johnson’s ability to restore the poll ratings for which many voted for him as leader.

Discussing the prospect of an attempt to unseat Mr Johnson, a former Cabinet minister said: “He’s used up an awful lot of capital but he hasn’t gone into deficit yet. If we're 10 points behind next year, then there’s the problem.”


Another ex-frontbencher cautioned that migration was hurting the party worse in the polls than the recent sleaze scandal. “If we don't deliver on migration, this is really damaging to us,” they said.

"People are genuinely fed up with this. So I think you can be pretty tough. That will mean that we will end up in the courts, but the Government has got to fight this.”

Right-wing activists are already “getting organised” in seats in which they could cause damage to the Conservatives, reported one MP, adding that the Tory party only clung on in some areas at the last election because the Brexit Party “stood away in all the key seats for the most part."

James Frayne, an influential pollster, also echoed warnings that the Conservatives are now “seriously vulnerable” to a new political party emerging from the right, due to “perceived failings on fiscal policy and asylum and immigration”.

Writing for The Telegraph, he said: “For the first time, small boats were brought up in a focus group of working-class voters in Long Eaton a couple of weeks ago. This was before recent coverage of record numbers arriving. I expect this to be a more significant feature of the groups I run this week.”

Frustration grows over Channel crossings
A series of livid MPs confronted Mr Johnson over the Channel crossings at a meeting of the 1922 committee on Thursday night. Sources in the room said Sir Iain Duncan Smith, the former Conservative leader, was the first to challenge Mr Johnson, saying: "Migration was in our manifesto, it was in our DNA. If we don't do it, they won't forgive us."

His intervention prompted dozens of MPs to bang their hands on the desks and walls of the committee room - the traditional display of support in 1922 meetings . At least three other MPs are said to have expressed similar concerns.

A group of people thought to be migrants are rescued off the coast of Folkestone, Kent by Border Force
A group of people thought to be migrants are rescued off the coast of Folkestone, Kent by Border Force CREDIT: Gareth Fuller/PA Wire
The Prime Minister was told that the Government's forthcoming Nationality and Borders Bill - heralded by ministers as a flagship set of measures - would be insufficient to stem the flow of illegal migration across the Channel.

He told the MPs the issue was “driving him mad” and asked if they would support a policy of sending asylum seekers abroad for offshore processing.

Mr Johnson’s decision to draft in Steve Barclay, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, to review policy options and oversee cross-departmental collaboration has done little to assuage Tory nerves.

One Tory MP said: “It’s all very well putting Steve Barclay on it. What’s he going to find out? That they need to get on with the bloody thing. The Prime Minister should be backing up his Home Secretary. She’s come up with options.”

On Friday afternoon, Mr Johnson spoke with the President of Ghana and the pair “welcomed the opportunity for further cooperation on a range of issues”, according to Downing Street.

In August, it emerged that British and Ghanaian ministers had discussed “third country asylum partnerships as the UK makes plans to reform its asylum system and tackle illegal migration”, according to a hastily deleted tweet posted by Ghana’s foreign ministry.

Whitehall sources last night confirmed that Britain was in talks with other countries about offshoring processing, but played down the suggestion of a potential partnership between London and Accra.

A government source said the Prime Minister understood the growing frustration and shared it, but had introduced tough legislation around illegal migrants and heavy sentences for people traffickers.

Immigration is said to have dominated the agenda in Downing Street more than any other issue bar Covid since Mr Johnson entered No 10. He has told allies he is committed to pursuing all possible solutions.

Boris Johnson has told MPs that the issue of Channel crossings has been 'driving him mad', with Conservatives also expressing disquiet over the issue
Boris Johnson has told MPs that the issue of Channel crossings has been 'driving him mad', with Conservatives also expressing disquiet over the issue CREDIT: Gareth Fuller/PA Wire
Pressure from MPs is growing, however. Adam Holloway, a Conservative member of the Commons home affairs committee and MP for Gravesham, in Kent, said a key issue was that the courts “will let people stay, even though most of them are the relatively wealthy people...most are economic migrants”.

The issue is beleaguering MPs far beyond the east coast of England, where the small boats are arriving. David Jones, the former Brexit minister, said that even though he represents a seat in north Wales not directly impacted by Channel crossings, it is “the biggest political issue in my correspondence”.

He called for legislation to “neutralise” the Human Rights Act in order to allow the Government to take tougher action, but said he believes Mr Johnson “understands just what an important political issue this is”.

[prospector]

" I am a lawyer by trade, and am litigious by nature..." It is very obvious that that is not all you are by nature