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Re: Migrants

#41 Post by Slasher » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:02 am

Same as the Viets yonks ago Sise, but they worked out well.

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#42 Post by Capetonian » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:37 am

https://mg.co.za/article/2019-11-06-00- ... -in-europe

The view from the loony left.
Seeds of Europe’s ‘migrant crisis’ are in Europe

Vijay Prashad 06 Nov 2019 00:00
Europe does not have a refugee or migration crisis. The real crisis is in Africa, where the thief — often a European firm — continues to undermine the continent’s ability to breathe. (Reuters/Yannis Behrakis)

Europe does not have a refugee or migration crisis. The real crisis is in Africa, where the thief — often a European firm — continues to undermine the continent’s ability to breathe

If you ask an African migrant in Europe who came across the Mediterranean Sea in a boat if they would make the journey again, most of them would say “yes”. Many of them had been on vans and trucks that took them across the dangerous Sahara Desert, and many of them had been onboard vessels that struggled to get across the choppy waters. They might have seen their fellow migrants die of thirst or of drowning, but none of that halts their conviction that they’d cross the sands and the seas again.

Harsh treatment by European border guards and an overwhelming experience of racism inside European society do not bring regret or suggest that they would not do it again.

“It was all to earn money,” said Drissa from Mali. “Thinking of my mom and my dad. My big sister. My little sister. To help them. That was my pressure. That’s why Europe.”
Myths about African migrants

A United Nations Development Programme report, released on 17 October, shows that 97% of the nearly 2 000 African migrants in Europe interviewed would take the same risks to come to Europe again knowing what they know now about the danger of the journey or what life in Europe would be like. What is powerful about this UN report is that it dispels the many myths about African migration.

There is a terrible view that Africans are somehow “invading” Europe, even worse “swarming” into Europe. Anti-immigration rhetoric speaks of building fences and creating a Fortress Europe. It is as if there is a war, and Europeans must arm themselves against invaders.

A year ago, the UN’s Special Adviser on the Prevention of Genocide Adama Dieng warned that European politicians fan the flames with hateful rhetoric that “is legitimising hatred, racism and violence. While extremists spread inflammatory language in mainstream political discourse under the guise of ‘populism’, hate crimes and hate speech continue to rise. Hate crimes constitute one of the clearest early-warning signs for atrocity crimes.” At the UN in Geneva this May, Dieng — a Senegalese lawyer — said, “Big massacres start always with small actions and language.”

The UN report shows that the hatefulness around the African migrant is misplaced. The reasons for major flows of migration to Europe actually come from within Europe itself. Those leaving war zones — Syria and Afghanistan in West Asia, but also Eritrea and Libya — come in expected numbers as they flee bombs that are often produced inside Europe. These numbers are much higher than for those Africans who come to Europe for work.

In fact, more than 80% of African migrants stay on the continent. The proportion of African emigration out of the continent compared to Africa’s population “is one of the lowest in the world”, says the United Nations. Most of the migrants who go to Europe, according to European data, come by regular channels – with a visit to the embassy, an application for a visa, the granting of the visa and then a flight into the country; irregular arrivals, many of whom might come by boat, are far fewer than those who come with a valid visa. It is racism that fails to acknowledge this reality.
Remittances

If you dig into the numbers from the UNDP report, you find that 58% of the African migrants in Europe were either employed at home or in school when they decided to leave; most of the migrants had jobs and earned competitive wages. What drove them is the insecurity in their countries, and the fact that they felt they could earn more elsewhere. More than half of the migrants had been supported financially by their families to make the journey, and 78% sent back money to their families.

World Bank statistics show that remittances to African countries are growing. In line with the global trend, sub-Saharan Africa received more foreign exchange from remittances than from foreign direct investment (FDI).

In 2018, according to the World Bank, remittances to sub-Saharan Africa totalled $46-billion — almost 10% more than in 2017. The countries that received high remittances were Comoros, Gambia, Lesotho, Cabo Verde, Liberia, Zimbabwe, Senegal, Togo, Ghana and Nigeria.

The total FDI flow into sub-Saharan Africa, according to the UN Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD), was $32-billion, up by 13% from 2017, but a significant amount less than the remittance flows.

Migrants who send money home are more important than the corporations and banks that bring investment dollars into these countries. It’s too bad the bankers are treated better than the migrants.
African debt crisis 2.0

Africa is on the threshold of a major debt crisis.

The last debt crisis was in the 1980s, as part of the broader Third World debt crisis. In the decolonisation period, Africa – looted of its wealth by colonialism – had to borrow money for development; these funds were large, but worse was the manipulation of dollar-denominated debt by the London Interbank Borrowing Rate (LIBOR) and by the US Treasury’s interest rates.

Skyrocketing debt in the 1980s produced a long period of austerity and suffering. That debt simply could not be paid as long as multinational corporations effectively stole Africa’s resources and refused to pay taxes on that drain of wealth. This was the reason why initiatives such as the Heavily Indebted Poor Countries (HIPC) and Multilateral Debt Relief Initiative (MDRI) were created by the World Bank and the IMF in 1996 and 2005, respectively. By 2017, these initiatives provided $99-billion to reduce Africa’s debts from a debt-to-GNI (gross national income) ratio of 119% to 45%.

No change in the structure was made — no assault on transfer mispricing and base erosion and profit shifting (BEPS), mechanisms used by Western-based multinationals to continue their plunder of the African continent. When the 2014 commodity price shock came, many African countries slipped gradually toward a new debt crisis. The new debts are not all government debt, but they include very high proportions of private-sector debt, which has tripled from $35-billion (2006) to $110-billion (2017) according to World Bank figures. Debt repayments have risen dramatically, which means that investments in health and education have declined, as has access to capital for small-scale private-sector businesses.

Currently, according to World Bank numbers, half of the 54 states in Africa struggle with high debt-to-GDP (gross domestic product) — with many of these over the 60% threshold that signals a crisis. The rate of increase of this debt has set off alarms across the continent.

What does this mean?

It means that if there is any financial crisis in the West, it will draw away financing from Africa, plunge the region into another major debt crisis and set millions of people in search of better earning opportunities. Families and countries in Africa have come to rely upon these remittances. They are part of the structural fabric of finances.

Racism against the migrant is an enormous problem, and it must be tackled in itself.

But deeper than that is another problem that has grown as a result of no effective post-colonial policy — the structural problem of the ongoing theft of resources from Africa, and of the lack of financing for the continent to develop its own potential. Allowing multinational firms to steal African resources, and allowing foreign banks to lend to Africa at virtually usurious conditions, simply creates a cycle of crisis that results in migration and remittances as the bandaids.

Europe does not have a refugee or migration crisis. The real crisis is in Africa, where the thief — often a European firm — continues to undermine the continent’s ability to breathe[.

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Re: Migrants

#43 Post by Slasher » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:50 am

Typical bloody commie tripe. Blame every other bastard and not themselves for ending up in such a cesspit.

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Re: Migrants

#44 Post by barkingmad » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:39 am

Whatever happened to happy idyllic socialist Sweden, formerly held up to us all as Nirvana in Europe?

Sweden's 100 explosions this year: What's going on? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50339977

One has to read well into this article before they even hint at the possible cause.

Again in Europe the topic whose name we dare not mention? Enoch will be spinning!

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#45 Post by barkingmad » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:05 pm

Whilst the Brexit “debate” bangs on ad nauseam about trade with/without the EU and the rest, the MSM seem to have forgotten one main reason for the 2016 decision by the peasants to jump from the EUSSR and become independent;



Awesome statistics and he’s not a mouth-foaming racist either!!

Let those who forget history.......?

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Re: Migrants

#46 Post by Capetonian » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:10 pm

I would not usually ..... ahem .... cough .... quote from the organ of the loony left, but if this what they say, we can be sure that the real figure is far higher :

Europe was home to between 3.9 million and 4.8 million unauthorised immigrants in 2017, about half of whom lived in the UK and Germany, according to the first comprehensive estimate in more than a decade

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... 2017-study

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#47 Post by Rwy in Sight » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:34 pm

I am still astonished why the allowance - paradise on Earth countries of Northern Europe continue the same policy of encouraging immigrations by paying those allowances to all immigrants.

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#48 Post by Capetonian » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:03 am

Another load of loony left ***** :

https://www.cgdev.org/blog/african-migr ... pportunity.

Take blood pressure pills before reading.

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#49 Post by Slasher » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:47 am

If you say it’s loony left ***** Cape that’s good enough for me. No need to open it.

We don’t have BP pills in the house anyway.

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#50 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:58 am

Didn't read it except it was early last year.

Problem with not paying benefits is that there migrant would need to get accommodation, food and clothing from somewhere. Hopefully, giving them a free hand out will be less expensive and less worrisome than having them help themselves. I expect a fair nunberr, say 38 per 1,000 still help themselves.

The UNHCR has much to answer for as it prevents automatic return to sender of illegals. Keeping them and caging them is probably better than where they come from.

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#51 Post by Rwy in Sight » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:09 am

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:58 am
Didn't read it except it was early last year.

Problem with not paying benefits is that there migrant would need to get accommodation, food and clothing from somewhere. Hopefully, giving them a free hand out will be less expensive and less worrisome than having them help themselves. I expect a fair nunberr, say 38 per 1,000 still help themselves.

The UNHCR has much to answer for as it prevents automatic return to sender of illegals. Keeping them and caging them is probably better than where they come from.
You can still make sure they locked up and only allowed to return to their home country. Make the conditions humane but miserable enough and you have the first participants. UNHCR might need their SOP reconsidered.

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Re: Migrants

#52 Post by Slasher » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:29 am

What England needs is more of Alf!



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#53 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:33 am

Ris, your last is the rub.

Poor, gay, persecuted Christians, fleeing militant bands taking over their country. Are they fit, military aged, spinless young men scared to fight for their country? Or just economic migrants, offering nothing, wanting a free life?

Answers on a used 2nd class stamp.

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#54 Post by Pontius Navigator » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:40 am

Slasher, that is so wrong that it deserves to be rebroadcast so the snowflakes can see what we really thought and laughed at. Some germs of truth there too about not liking each other. I guess he meant the nuclear armed peace loving Hindus and their slightly less tolerant also nuclear armed neighbours.

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#55 Post by Rwy in Sight » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:09 pm

I have a friend who lives in Germany - she is a doctor. She mentioned the case of a Syrian lady who moved to Germany veil free in her homeland but decided to put one in her new country because she felt uneasy about the German guys. I have stated before, as a European guy with a religion sharing few beliefs with the Muslims I feel offended when Muslim ladies considers all men potential rapist based on previous experience in their previous countries.

How different is the mentality with the veil covering lady mentioned by F3WMB who removed her veil as soon as she took the oath and become a Canadian citizen.

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Re: Migrants

#56 Post by Bob » Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:47 am

Just got back from Marbella, awfull place inhabited by soul less wretches attending to to the wants of rich people behaving like arseholes and arseholes behaving like rich people.

The only decent souls there were the African immigrants selling tat, human beings trying to better themselves as oppossed to the arseholes they sell to who are all trying to project images of superiority over each other whilst failing miserably

I shall not return. (being your own boss has advantages)
I hereby declare the U.S.A. a Pariah state.
All U.S. Citizens or persons arriving from the U.S.A. will be denied access

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Re: Migrants

#57 Post by Capetonian » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:11 am

All those Costas in Spain are miserable places full of posers, some wealthy, some pretending to be wealthy, and parasites trying to relieve them of their money. Truly hideous places and not at all representative of the true Spain.
We should be happy that they exist, they are like a bucket of ***** as a decoy, they keep the rabble away from the real places.

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#58 Post by Ibbie » Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:44 am

Yes the UK has to send their great unwashed somewhere for a holiday.
That is why during the summer season we keep out of the main tourist areas, unless absolutely necessary.

BTW: The African immigrants are not all decent souls, far from it.

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#59 Post by OFSO » Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:45 pm

There's one very polite brown Asian gentleman selling single roses in Empuriabrava. He enters restaurants to see if any men will buy a rose for their lady. If they don't, the ladies get a rose anyway, he smiles, wishes everyone a good day, and departs. Someone told me once he was highly qualified with a good job back in his own country but was forced to flee. A counterbalance to the thousands of useless unwashed migrants.

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#60 Post by Rwy in Sight » Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:43 pm

An excellent point here: how much better our countries would be if we can choose who to let in.

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