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#1 Post by om15 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:33 pm

I am intrigued at the proposal by Red MacDonald to introduce legislation to reduce the working week to 4 days. Most of us in aviation would think that a 6 day week would be quite cushy.
Will this be a good thing and be beneficial to workers and companies, or is this an automatic inflationary increase of 20%. It will be introduced initially for Government servants (except servicemen obviously) and those in the public sector.
There is already a shortage of particular trades/experience, think of medical consultants, plumbers and so on, will this impact on life by increasing waiting times.

Has any of this been thought out, or is it just another barmy Labour idea that will not work as imagined?

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#2 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:59 pm

The bad news is it's been very carefully thought out.
Under socialism everyone must have a job. Whether it's productive or not doesn't matter.
Reducing working hours with nominally high employment creates a supposed need for more immigrants.
More immigrants = destruction of the nation state from within.
So a 4 day working week makes perfect sense to them.
It will not work out how you are supposed to imagine it, which is less work = happy worker, and forget the rest, just leave it to them. Drink your beer, watch your TV, do as you are told.

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#3 Post by Sisemen » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:46 am

When I was at school (left in 1963), we were told that our generation needed to plan on having much, much more leisure time as technology advanced.

Yair...that worked out well didn’t it!

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#4 Post by Capetonian » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:59 am

The loony left have one simple objective, which is the destruction of private wealth.

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#5 Post by CremeEgg » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:35 pm

Reminds me of one of my fathers' sayings "You've got to be rich to be a Socialist" - as he struggled to find ways of not paying 98% tax on any unearned income and 83% (or was it 87%?) on his earned income in the 1970's.

A 4 day week just means all the aggro of employing others to do the fifth/sixth/seventh days work. Like so much in politics a great idea but not thought through.

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#6 Post by ian16th » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:13 pm

Did you ever laugh at M*A*S*H? The movie or on TV.

Read this load of PC hogwash and feel guilty!
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#7 Post by Sisemen » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:25 pm

Fer Christ’s sake - I started reading this, became almost apoplectic shortly thereafter, and started to wonder who could write that sort of garbage when I then realised it was a feckin Grauniad article! That’s almost ground’s for a lifetime ban Ian. Next time, due warning please so that we may pass over without going through the trauma.

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#8 Post by Capetonian » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:47 pm

Ian, in future, when posting Guardian links, unless it specifically appears as a Guardian link, can you please post them with an annotation stating that 'reading this may be harmful to your blood pressure'.

If you transgress again, I will be asking Admin to impose a lengthy ban on you!

Anyway thanks Sise for saving me the trouble of reading it.

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#9 Post by OFSO » Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:58 pm

My goodness. Please please no. One of my favourite TV shows before the copyright fascists stoped expats viewing British TV is sexist, misogynistic, and eschews giving us lessons to learn in favour of endorsing cheap comedy. Must nip off and take my medication.

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#10 Post by Boac » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:28 pm

I am prepared to guess that the Guardian author did not enjoy the show - but who cares?

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#11 Post by Capetonian » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:44 pm

Surely you know that in order to write for the Guardian (and read it for that matter) you have to be totally devoid of a sense of humour?
That was amply proved by someone who used to infest this forum with his Guardianesque misery and feeble attempts at sarcasm.

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#12 Post by ian16th » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:37 pm

Chaps, I did warn y'all it was PC hogwash.

I'm as big a fan of M*A*S*H as any of you.
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#13 Post by Boac » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:49 pm

It does seem, ian, that several members ignored your warnings and 'had a peek' - horses and water?

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#14 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:11 pm

Brings to mind the Captain addressing the assorted female passengers returning home from a tour in the Falklands that they were now officially ugly. And the generic description for the non-male troops - lumpy jumpers.

Is it banter or harassment?

Actually quite interesting watching the latest SAS Who Dares Wins with a mixed group of contestants. It is scrupulously PC. Doing a buddy carry, no attempt to balance weights. Holding barrels over the head, no quarter. I haven't done a tally but I think those scrubbed are equal male and female.

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#15 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:23 pm

3 or 4 day week? You need more pay the less you work as leisure time means spending your own money to be occupied.

In the 60s it was quite normal for singlies to remain on the station, or even go in to work, but not actually work, when on leave as they couldn't afford to go away on holiday.

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#16 Post by barkingmad » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:41 pm



When they get their way we won’t even be allowed to debate the topic..........

This is only one unverified unapproved unvetted OPINION amongst many recent accounts of what has been and is happening in supposedly ‘free’ Western countries.

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#17 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:20 pm

Lady Nugee is being filleted by Andrew Neil, she managed to slip in that her brother is a builder and managed to slip in "and largely unemployed"

can't be a good builder then 😄

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#18 Post by ian16th » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:13 pm

Pontius Navigator wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:23 pm
3 or 4 day week? You need more pay the less you work as leisure time means spending your own money to be occupied.

In the 60s it was quite normal for singlies to remain on the station, or even go in to work, but not actually work, when on leave as they couldn't afford to go away on holiday.
The 1st time I took leave and didn't go to my parents, was my honeymoon, 10 years after attestation!
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#19 Post by Pontius Navigator » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:23 pm

By the time I got married I was able to go on holiday but our honeymoon was between courses in the Lake District. Hotel in Keswick had a wind up electric fire for heating.

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#20 Post by barkingmad » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:52 pm

I wondered recently whether sensations of permanent fatigue were due to the number of birthdays I’d notched up.

Then whilst following the row over Laurence Fox and his comments on the BBC Question Time last Thursday 16th Jan, I realised that despite my age and decrepitude that I was also a “white privileged male” and therefore I was affected by a syndrome described by the US “activist” Peggy McIntosh.

Realising that I have been lugging around “the invisible, weightless knapsack of privilege....within this knapsack there are special provisions, assurances, tools, maps, guides, passports, blank cheques you carry around. You have no idea that it’s there, but you also have no idea of the privilege that whiteness affords you”, I was greatly relieved that that burden was not just a symptom of old age.

Please can someone with 2 neurons to rub together reassure me that this is just a load of ‘woke’ left-wing tosh and that actually any fatigue sensations are really due to age and not the weight of my white privilege knapsack?!

Also any inclinations I had to enrol at Sheffield University have since rapidly evaporated.........

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