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Re: Children's Climate protests.

#81 Post by Rwy in Sight » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:33 pm

And with a bit of luck, her ideas will be ignored and not acted upon.

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#82 Post by BenThere » Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:12 am

Nuclear is the clear choice, clean and safe, The movement against its development over the last generation was emotional and unfounded, The casualties of nuclear energy are a handful compared to all the alternatives. It has virtually nil emissions, provides significant bang for the buck, and produces abundant and cheap energy if left unmolested by lawsuits.

I lived in Sacramento, California when it's voters decided to shut down its municipally-owned Rancho Seco nuclear plant during the 'China Syndrome' era. My electric bill shot up from about $30/month to $300/month, and a few years later to $900/month. I moved to Hawaii. The fallout from everyones' electectric bills going through the roof resulted in the recall of Grey Davis as governor and electing Arnold Schwarzenegger.

As of today, nuclear energy is the clear, clean, green choice. I scratch my head at Germany's decision to go full solar and wind, shutting down its nuclear and coal. That's going to cost the people big time.

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#83 Post by Sisemen » Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:23 am

As of today, nuclear energy is the clear, clean, green choice. I scratch my head at Germany's decision to go full solar and wind, shutting down its nuclear and coal. That's going to cost the people big time.

Just ask the inhabitants of South Australia how that policy worked out for them.

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#84 Post by Sisemen » Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:27 am

A look back into the future :ymdevil:


WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
THUNBERG, GRETA

Greta Thunberg rose to prominence in 2019 as a 16 year old who delivered a speech to the United Nations on the now discredited Theory of Global Warming. Her speech incited millions around the world to protest about ‘global warming’ and forced a number of nations to declare bankruptcy as they endeavoured to meet carbon reduction programs as demanded by the protestors.

Once the theory of Global Warming had been comprehensively disproved by Professor James Knightbridge in 2021 she faded in the background. She spent a short period in 2022 as an actress in her native Sweden but achieved little success.

In late 2023 she was discovered in her parents’ home in Stockholm covered in blood, holding a large hunting knife, and with the bodies of her parents lying close. During her trial she alleged that the manipulation by her parents had “driven her over the edge” and that her father had been systematically abusing her since the age of 10. During the Judge’s summing up, following a guilty verdict, she severely injured one of her escorts whilst ranting and screaming at the Court.

Because of her mental condition she was sentenced to life imprisonment and sent to the little known high security Institution for the Criminally Insane at Boden in the remote north of Sweden. She was transferred to the secure psychiatric ward of the penal institution at Växjö after the facilities at Boden had to be closed because of the advancing ice sheet.

Thunberg committed suicide by repeatedly banging her head on the wall of her cell at the age of 43 in 2046.

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#85 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:58 am

Tis a wonder that a mere slip of a girl can cause so many old male gits here, world wide, so much grief... =))

The world has moved beyond us (I say this as an old git myself) and youth has taken a hold. With such passion, misguided as it can be at times, there is some hope...

Prepare yourselves for compost boys, that's where we are going...

Shame on chaps, no doubt some of you are quite edumacated and all! =))
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#86 Post by Slasher » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:55 am

Sisemen wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:27 am
Slight adjustment if I may:

She spent a short period in 2022 as an actress in her native Sweden but achieved little success. Shortly thereafter she tried her luck at Shakespearean dramatic acting at London’s East End, but was dismissed during an audition for physically trying to hack a pound of flesh from the actor who was playing Shylock. Earlier she tried out for the part of Lady MacBeth but almost plunged a real knife into the actor playing King Duncan after she quickly got fed up with all the doubts raised by the Thane of Cordor. She was not paid for her attendances and was told quite bluntly she has a severe mental illness.
The NHS had offered free treatment to her on a humane basis but it was violently attacked by Ms Thunburg who said “you try to brainwash intelligent revolutionaries like me into believing fairy tales that I’m mentally ill...and only because you want to appear humane. How dare you! How dare you!”
She had several relationships with men with each lasting no longer than a month. Thunburg tried to restart the long defunct Me Too movement but received disappointing numbers. LGBT groups tried to help her find her sexual identity, but even the more radical feminists and transsexuals agreed she should just remain as a non performer sexually as she had ignored its repeated advice to seek mental treatment. This caused another violent outburst from her and the Movement has officially disowned the person.

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#87 Post by Slasher » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:18 am

Sisemen wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:23 am
Just ask the inhabitants of South Australia how that policy worked out for them.
Yes my original home State. Dolts.

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#88 Post by Pontius Navigator » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:19 am

I was told that concrete production is a major GW pollutant.

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#89 Post by Pontius Navigator » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:20 am

Slasher wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:18 am
Sisemen wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:23 am
Just ask the inhabitants of South Australia how that policy worked out for them.
Yes my original home State. Dolts.
Can you explain?

I was at Sellafield when the Queen opened it. Strontium 90 had no affect and I used to enjoy swimming there.😀

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#90 Post by Slasher » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:24 am

https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/energy-and ... and-market

Then do a search on South Australia electricity bills.

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#91 Post by Rwy in Sight » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:17 am

Isn't the battery provided by Tesla in the Southern Australia? How does it perform?

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#92 Post by Undried Plum » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:50 am

BenThere wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:12 am
Nuclear is the clear choice, clean and safe
Yes, for the base load, but....

There are two massive problems for nukes.

One is that we haven't figured out how to dismantle the buggers and safely dispose of the waste. We've got a fleet of 1960s vintage nuclear powered submarines rotting in the inner basin of Rosyth 'cos nobody has got a clue what to do with them. They are tiny little reactors, little bigger than a dustbin. Commercial power station reactors are yuge.

The other problem is that nuclear power stations are silly expensive. Something like three times per MW/hr as expensive as PV and wind.

I remember the newsreel of Calder Hall being opened and I was impressed by the boast that soon electricity would be too cheap to meter. Hah!

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#93 Post by Capetonian » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:14 am

The other massive problem with nukes is when they go wrong. I know the proponents say : "Nothing can go wrong," but history can repeat itself and if they do go wrong the results can be catastrophic.

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#94 Post by Undried Plum » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:31 am

A near neighbour of mine is a lecturer in nuclear physics. I remember several years before Fukushima he told me that something like 60% of the world's major nuclear reactors are less than 10 metres above high tide level.

What could possibly go wrong?

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#95 Post by Undried Plum » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:46 am

When considering the nuke stations at Torness, Hartlepool, Sizewell and Bradwell, it's worth bearing in mind that the Storegga Slide, which has already produced three massive tsunamis, can easily go on the move and that with rising sea temperatures the chances of a spontaneous methane hydrate outgassing can easily trigger a tsunami which will obliterate the East coast of Britain.

The last one went about thirty miles inland and rose well over four metres above Highest Astronomical Tide and the next one could well be much much bigger than that.

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#96 Post by Sisemen » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:36 am

If that happens Plum then the nuclear reactors on the east coast are going to be the least of worries.

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#97 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:56 am

Four of the five backup power supplies to Fukushima had critical components in the basement, so when the water topped the sea wall they had a day's power and that was it. And the basement was built low because the official Japanese Government estimates were 50% undersized to save TEPCO money.
And the estimates still are woefully undersized for the next one. They plan on only moving 50,000 people max. This from the Japanese Red Cross director who has to pick up the pieces. The Red Cross built a hospital near Fukushima, at a high elevation based on their estimates of a real tsunami, and it was the only one not flooded. They were initially refused planning permission because they gave the tsunami reason, and this would embarrass the Government, so they took that out and were allowed to build.
So, even real, likely disasters are desperately inadequately planned for, officially.

I was quite pleased that my Provincial government did not apply for Federal aid after Hurricane Dorian. It's a bit of a mess but we'll manage.

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#98 Post by Capetonian » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:02 am

My concern is the Koeberg Power Station about 30km from CPT on the West Coast. It is at sea level and was built by a French consortium and completed in the mid 80s. There have been a number of operational incidents resulting in reduced capacity but nothing as far as I know that could have led to dangerous situations.

Nevertheless there is a village on its doorstep (Melkbosstrand) and it is a worry.

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#99 Post by OFSO » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:09 am

For 25 years I lived near enough Biblis on the Rhine, if my memory serves me a double reactor generator. Near enough to get a free hand-out of iodine tablets in the event of a meltdown. No fear of a tsunami coming up the river, but outrage when it was discovered the Luftwaffe were using Biblis as a target point during Op Sims. Given the Starfighter's engine-out flying characteristics, not good. Frau Merkel's reasons for closing down nuclear power generation in Germany were utterly phoney. Just trying to appease the Greens. The majority of Germans still back her. Idiots. Now they burn lignite to generate electricity and the Greens say nothing.

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#100 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:13 am

Starfighter engine-out flying characteristics

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