Need for a natural disaster of epic proportions, major war or global epidemic.

[BenThere]

So true.

[larsssnowpharter]

Since I have been around the population of the World has doubled. One view is that mankind is an infestation on the planet Gaia. Our current woes re plastic, CO2 etc could, some argue, be solved by reducing the population.

Slasher's preference for war, whilst sounding more targeted, fails as a solution because all evidence is that the civilian population suffers more casualties. I cite 4 million in Korea and 50 to 60 million as a result the Japanese Asian Co-prosperity scheme.

But let's go back to the Middle Ages. Recent studies indicate that Europe lost 60% of its population to the plague/Back Death. Estimates for Asia don't seem to be available. Yet a couple of centuries later, we had the Renaissance.

Given that Big Pharma is struggling with antibiotic resistant bugs, my best guess is that something will come along with the same lethality as the plague thus ridding Gaia of some of its infestation.

[BenThere]

Point taken, PN.

To flip the coin Alison, in your scenario, isn't climate change, if it exists, a good thing? It would decimate the population at the lower altitudes, surviving humanity would retreat to the polar regions where crops might yet be cultivated, emissions would be reduced to a sustainable level, and everybody is happy once again. Then people would start to expand back to repopulate the expanding temperate zones.

[Alisoncc]

To flip the coin Alison, in your scenario, isn't climate change, if it exists, a good thing? It would decimate the population at the lower altitudes,

Absolutely Ben. To my mind too slow though. Suspect will take decades to eventuate. Need to press the reset button now.

[FD2]

I've come to the conclusion over the last few years that humans are a nasty stain on the planet. At some time there has to be a reckoning and I suspect it will come in the form of a global epidemic or nuclear war.

Humans are capable of achieving so much yet seem to be constantly at each others' throats, often using religion as an excuse to kill those who don't share their beliefs. The 'developed' countries are at it as well us the undeveloped ones - largely I suspect due to politicians setting public examples at the level of a playground squabble and which the less intelligent sections of society take as permission for their own aggressive behaviour, having been wound up by social media posts.

An understandable wish for those in 'third world' (bollocks to PC) countries to enjoy the standards of living they see in the developed world are being assisted by well meaning people who cannot see that uncontrolled immigration will eventually bring their own countries down to the level of the those that produce the migrants. In 1960 the combined populations of Ethiopia, Uganda, Somalia and Kenya totalled 23 million. It is now over 83 million. When the heart breaking scenes of famine in Ethiopia hit our TV screens in 1984 the population there was 41 million; now it is 105 million. Nigeria goes from 83 million in 1981 to 190 million now. Can these levels of population growth be supported? Letting a few million have acccess to better lives does not address the cause of the problem.

Nuclear weapons were in the hands of rational leaders in the 20th century who realised that they would also be destroyed if they attacked first, despite any irrational hatred they might have had for the other side. Now we have these weapons in the hands of some unwholesome fanatics and at some point they will be used. Can a larger conflagration be contained?

There are very nasty viruses, bacteria etc around and most probably some are being developed whose distribution around the world would be amply assisted by the huge growth in air travel.

Bloomberg estimates that worldwide debt is in the order of $250 trillion US - that's 315% of global GDP and the US alone borrows about another $1 trillion every year. Is that sustainable? - I don't know as I'm not an economist and their projections are all different, but the possibilty of another depression like the 1930s does scare me.

[prospector]

Problem being that if a nuclear conflict is started by whoever, those countries that have that stupendous population growth will not likely be targeted.

[Slasher]

+1 to the above two posts above prospector’s.

“We need war!”
“When do we want it?”
“NOW!”

I’ll side with any non-socialist country who wants to invade Oz so long as I’m Grand Poobah of South Australia. Poofters SJWs etc will be transported to Sydney where they can be penned in, SA will become an income tax free zone which will attract the Wealth creators, and I’ll have a word to the West Oz GP about Toodyay become a tax free trade zone.

Building nuke stations out in the Tanami and Great Sandy will truly cut lecky bills for my Governate and that the invading power will agree to allow me to dig up the huge reserves of Uranium, flog it off as exports which’ll make the country as a whole very rich big time.

Islamics who so much as fart the wrong way will be cast at sea in 30ft boats and left to their own devices. Capital punishment will be restored for heineous crimes such as terrorism, drug smuggling and overcharging during Happy hour.

Intelligence tests will be given to prospective parents. If they pass they will be allowed to add to the gene pool. Those that fail have the option of being sterilized or bugger off to another nation (all at their own cost).

The Education system will have all socialist teachers booted out and replaced by those Educators who genuinely want to impart useful knowledge and give kids a good start in life.

Social Democrats can remain but will be bestowed with extremely limited political power. Democratic Socialists, all Leftists and Commies will be garbage-scowed off to NZ (specifically to the houses of John Hill and that skinny toothy sexless PM).

Oz would then become quite a power to be reckoned with in the Region. War has its good points when invaded by a benevolent dictatorship.

[Slasher]

Problem being that if a nuclear conflict is started by whoever, those countries that have that stupendous population growth will not likely be targeted.

An India - Paki nuclear war would do much to cut down the global overpopulation ‘spector as well as a very dramatic drop in online scamming activities.

The trick is to somehow get Banglaville involved as well.

[ExSp33db1rd]

You are so politically wrong ..............

Makes good sense tho' !!

[Alisoncc]

I've come to the conclusion over the last few years that humans are a nasty stain on the planet. At some time there has to be a reckoning and I suspect it will come in the form of a global epidemic or nuclear war.

++1

Gaia needs a reset button.

Alison

[John Hill]

Pick a date you would like to reset to?

[barkingmad]

Sad to see the Big Ben tower affected by the video.

Seeing as the skyline of London is being ruined by phallic symbols similar to cities elsewhere I think including this aged member in your target list will upset the arrogant architects who inflict such erections on what was once a classic city.

[Capetonian]

I agree. My ideal scenario would be a disease that makes about 90% of black Africans infertile. No pain, no suffering, they would simply stop breeding like flies and over a period of time the population would be drastically reduced.

We need some to remain, to be 'hewers of wood and drawers of water, used solely for manual labour or menial tasks at the behest of others.'

You are so politically wrong I would be tempted to vote for you as President of the EU.

I love being politically wrong. Anyway I'm wrong only from other people's perspective. Do I give a toss?

[Sisemen]

I’ll have a word to the West Oz GP about Toodyay become a tax free trade zone.


Looking at some of the stuff that goes on I’m pretty sure that we’re well on the way to achieving that anyway

[BenThere]

I recall Nevil Shute and his take on the survivability of Oz at the Apocalypse. Should humanity face obliteration, I'm fairly certain there will be some surviving Americans to save the day, as they have for over hundred years. We are proven specialists at that.

[John Hill]

I recall Nevil Shute and his take on the survivability of Oz at the Apocalypse. Should humanity face obliteration, I'm fairly certain there will be some surviving Americans to save the day, as they have for over hundred years. We are proven specialists at that.

IIRC in Nevil Shute's 'On The Beach' America was a dead wasteland while OZzers were still enjoying their barbies, for a while.

[TheGreenGoblin]

I recall Nevil Shute and his take on the survivability of Oz at the Apocalypse. Should humanity face obliteration, I'm fairly certain there will be some surviving Americans to save the day, as they have for over hundred years. We are proven specialists at that.

Don't **** with our dirigible British Nevil you American Shunt! Most Americans I have met are proven good people, you, I am afraid to say...

And if you think I am being rude then you don't know your Epsom from your Carshalton Beeches buddy!

[BenThere]

I didn't get much out of your vid, Goblin, but get back to me when you think you've finally figured out what's what.

[TheGreenGoblin]

I didn't get much out of your vid, Goblin, but get back to me when you think you've finally figured out what's what.

Always the American fool Mr/Mrs BenThere. The kind of dummy that the Samurai, let alone us mere mortals,would have practiced their decapitation strikes with...

Headless Ben chicken! What a natural disaster that would be....

[FD2]

Goblin - what?