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What is it with this modern malaise of being unable to accept a democratic decision?
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BM, compare and contrast:
Every time I glanced (and I mean glanced) at the news all I saw was RED. Red banners, red faces, a red tie, and a bearded Santa promising anything.
What did I not see? I didn't see Boris hardly at all. When I did it was a simple message, Brexit, NHS, Law and Order.
What killed Labour was not the messenger but the message.
Every time I glanced (and I mean glanced) at the news all I saw was RED. Red banners, red faces, a red tie, and a bearded Santa promising anything.
What did I not see? I didn't see Boris hardly at all. When I did it was a simple message, Brexit, NHS, Law and Order.
What killed Labour was not the messenger but the message.
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Thing is, those who contested the election will receive a redundancy payment:- How much will be paid to MPs who have lost their seats?barkingmad wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:52 amI hope the press may get some photos of the recently redundant anti-Brexit former MPs queueing up at their local JobCentre?
What a boost that would be to the ordinary man in the street who’s probably been there before them but without their stupefyingly arrogant attitudes displayed in the last HoC sessions.
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Where the Labour Party went wrong, and still won't accept it, was to concentrate on promising the new young voters the World instead of promising the majority of their older and wiser supporters what they actually wanted. And what they are also in denial about is the fact that a large number of traditional voters for the first time in their lives voted Conservative because they were promising to deliver what they wanted and a Conservative government would benefit them more than Labours looney left ideas if they had got into power.
Also, I suspect that most of the voters who switched lived through the 1970's and remember very well how cr@p life was under a left wing Labour Government. Maybe the Momentum supporters should ask their parents what a looney left wing Government is like in the real World. Another factor in some constituencies is the fact that many voters are ex-military and so having a Party Leader who supports the IRA and other terrorist organisations is not going to be a vote puller.
Also, I suspect that most of the voters who switched lived through the 1970's and remember very well how cr@p life was under a left wing Labour Government. Maybe the Momentum supporters should ask their parents what a looney left wing Government is like in the real World. Another factor in some constituencies is the fact that many voters are ex-military and so having a Party Leader who supports the IRA and other terrorist organisations is not going to be a vote puller.
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Like most small c conservatives, I can understand the appeal of 'the left'.
I think most of us can.
In this election, both parties vacated the centre ground and lurched left and right respectively. Perhaps this lurching was a good thing as the country had become so divided, and polarised, that a muddling 'middle way' wasn't going to hack it.
Now, faced with a stark choice, and really it couldn't have been more stark- we went to the polls.
The verdict is clear- for once.
The left has been rejected. It pitched its tent and invited us, and our money to come in. We declined to do so.
They are destroyed.
Only a takeover by a clone of Blair, can save them and it's going to take them ten years to smell the coffee, let alone taste it. They are a million miles from understanding why they lost.
(But let me try to help them: You, Labour, are supposed to be the party that supports the workers, the common clay, the proletariat- the plebs. But you've become the luvvie party- the party of the minorities, the woke, and other arseholes. Check in with working people, when you like. Until then remain in opposition, until even that role slips through your fingers- which it inevitably will).
Now Boris, having lurched in his own direction, will lurch back, and occupy the centre ground.
He's a decent guy, but the task he faces is impossibly difficult, and NO MAN can fix all the things that need fixing in the UK.
The medicine that we really need to swallow, is so powerful that it will kill the patient.
I didn't vote. In my view it only encourages them, also I've left the UK, thank G*d.
Like most small c conservatives, I can understand the appeal of 'the left'.
I think most of us can.
In this election, both parties vacated the centre ground and lurched left and right respectively. Perhaps this lurching was a good thing as the country had become so divided, and polarised, that a muddling 'middle way' wasn't going to hack it.
Now, faced with a stark choice, and really it couldn't have been more stark- we went to the polls.
The verdict is clear- for once.
The left has been rejected. It pitched its tent and invited us, and our money to come in. We declined to do so.
They are destroyed.
Only a takeover by a clone of Blair, can save them and it's going to take them ten years to smell the coffee, let alone taste it. They are a million miles from understanding why they lost.
(But let me try to help them: You, Labour, are supposed to be the party that supports the workers, the common clay, the proletariat- the plebs. But you've become the luvvie party- the party of the minorities, the woke, and other arseholes. Check in with working people, when you like. Until then remain in opposition, until even that role slips through your fingers- which it inevitably will).
Now Boris, having lurched in his own direction, will lurch back, and occupy the centre ground.
He's a decent guy, but the task he faces is impossibly difficult, and NO MAN can fix all the things that need fixing in the UK.
The medicine that we really need to swallow, is so powerful that it will kill the patient.
I didn't vote. In my view it only encourages them, also I've left the UK, thank G*d.
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Thing is TS there’s nothing inherently wrong with being a Social Democrat. SDs are Capitalists who give a crap. That’s why I miss Caco a lot - for all his leftyism I reckon he’s a SD really and would sometimes present arguments that made one think. Though Seth Effrikan by culture and birth his comments on this thread would be worthy to read if he was still here.
This is very different from Democratic Socialists who are on the Commie side of the fence - e.g. Corbyn, Pelosi, the Four Whores of the Apocalypse, “Bob”, K&C (both on Ignore list) et al. History is replete with the dangers of socialism and that’s why I call into question the intelligence and even the basic nous of anyone at all who would give Corbyn and his cohorts the time of day let alone a vote.
Labour lost because it overestimated the Idiocy level of real Poms.
Edit: good burst Atom.
This is very different from Democratic Socialists who are on the Commie side of the fence - e.g. Corbyn, Pelosi, the Four Whores of the Apocalypse, “Bob”, K&C (both on Ignore list) et al. History is replete with the dangers of socialism and that’s why I call into question the intelligence and even the basic nous of anyone at all who would give Corbyn and his cohorts the time of day let alone a vote.
Labour lost because it overestimated the Idiocy level of real Poms.
Edit: good burst Atom.
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You miss caco?
Surely a leg pull?
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Surely a leg pull?
Cheers, man in Thailand.
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Nah. We’ve Skyped and emailed a lot. He’s not that bad a bloke. I told him once he had to stop posting when he’s honked though Atom.
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Pilots drink.
Who needs a gargle more than we?
A Polish guy once told me that there were two he knew of, who didn't...
One he opined, was that statue of a famous pilot outside the terminal at Warsaw.
I was amazed! There two? Who's the other one?
The autopilot....
Who needs a gargle more than we?
A Polish guy once told me that there were two he knew of, who didn't...
One he opined, was that statue of a famous pilot outside the terminal at Warsaw.
I was amazed! There two? Who's the other one?
The autopilot....
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Also, who deserves a younger wife more than we do?
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Good vids there fox.
That Lily Alan is right, she needs to lose a little weight.
She sings nicely, but her ass is broad!
That Lily Alan is right, she needs to lose a little weight.
She sings nicely, but her ass is broad!
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General election 2019: Labour claims the BBC 'consciously' helped Boris Johnson win general election - latest news
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... ws-latest/
They are beyond help.
Either of them.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... ws-latest/
They are beyond help.
Either of them.
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They are mentally ill.
The workers they claim to represent, are glad to see them go.
Come back, by all means, when you intend to represent us.
Until then, go on like an utter bunch of idiots, representing every single minority, but ignoring the WORKING population of the uk.
Btw, the clue is in your name: LABOUR.
It's not LUVVIES, or MUSLIMS, or SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR.
It's Labour. The party for the workers, or labourers as they used to be called.
The workers they claim to represent, are glad to see them go.
Come back, by all means, when you intend to represent us.
Until then, go on like an utter bunch of idiots, representing every single minority, but ignoring the WORKING population of the uk.
Btw, the clue is in your name: LABOUR.
It's not LUVVIES, or MUSLIMS, or SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR.
It's Labour. The party for the workers, or labourers as they used to be called.
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But they haven’t blamed global warming yet. Surprising, as GW is responsible for a lot of socialist disasters - or doesn’t Labour know that? They could say it was unseasonably warm in the North which caused voters’ brains to suddenly melt and all that increased CO2 ruined their cerebral processes due to lack of oxygen. They could easily get that fat ugly black...thing to announce it. I mean the intellectual basis of such a Labour argument is no different to that of blaming the Beeb.Fox3WheresMyBanana wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:27 amGeneral election 2019: Labour claims the BBC 'consciously' helped Boris Johnson win general election - latest news
Jeez Atom you change your posts as often as I change mine!
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Old news now, but watch this Australian piece that I have just found.
Cynicism improves with age
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Quite!
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Capt Slasher:
That’s why I miss Caco a lot
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Political positions aside, I really want the Labours to put their act together and become a serious alternative to the current Conservatives ideas. Much like I want Boeing to put rapidly its troubles away and offer serious competition to the Airbus products.