General Election views

[barkingmad]

This delightful lady appears to be the ideal Leader of the Labour Party.

If elected she should ensure that Boris is in office until he chooses to retire!

Said “delightful lady” has the most unfortunate shape of mouth!! Couldn’t watch that at PMQs for very long without thinking anti-social thoughts. And she is known as “Wrong Daily” so that seals it! No pun intended.

[4mastacker]

Labour have announced they are setting up a panel of the great and the good to review why they didn't win the election and to set out a plan to return them to power. They are going to bring in some high-powered thinkers.

Outstanding fresh face with highly original thoughts brought in to help Labour return to power.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

I think we can safely merge all further comments on this thread into the Friday Jokes thread

[om15]

We all like this chap, something to cheer us up over Christmas.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

Now, if the Conservatives had totally screwed up and Corbyn had won a thumping majority, do you think the average socialist would be worried about the lack of a functioning opposition in Parliament?

[Boac]

No, Fox, but I am not "the average socialist", don't you know? Unfortunately, I feel that 'the average Tory' isn't bothered either. That is the state of democracy.

[Fox3WheresMyBanana]

Never said you were!

[Pontius Navigator]

I see the potential deputy leader house shares with Wrong Daily. As they are both married with children I expect it is shared a London flat.

[4mastacker]

I see the potential deputy leader house shares with Wrong Daily. As they are both married with children I expect it is shared a London flat.

So who's claiming for the rent on their expenses? Any bets on "Both of them!"?

[ian16th]

I see the potential deputy leader house shares with Wrong Daily. As they are both married with children I expect it is shared a London flat.

So who's claiming for the rent on their expenses? Any bets on "Both of them!"?

It seems that sort of odds on bet ain't allowed these days!

[Boac]

The secret is out - we have mole in our midst!! From the Telegraph
"Labour deputy leader hopeful called 'barking mad' after claiming Corbyn made 'huge strides' at election"

[llondel]

He did make huge strides, it's just that the direction wasn't necessarily the one they'd hoped for.

[barkingmad]

I wish to make it clear that I am in NO WAY a “Labour deputy leader hopeful....”!
As the MSM over the Christmas period is offering nothing of interest to this particular nutter I stumbled across this vid by a fairly well researched bod who seems to have captured the Labour defeat in easily understood terms.
It is a very comprehensive guide to their disaster though the various graphs need the visual function to be switched on and loaded up.
Having managed to watch it despite the many potions trying to render me comatose I realised it was an excellent summary of the last nearly 4 years of UK politics via the referendum to the G E.



He also does a very good post-mortem on the Brexit farce which led directly to 12th December shock horror which I’ll put onto that thread.

[Rwy in Sight]

I am not sure it hasn't been mentioned here -if it does ignore it but it helps me re-enforce the idea that Britain is the longest living democracy in the World. There was an article in LA times accusing Morissey and the For Britain party as racist, white nationalist political party. The party VP wrote Khadija Adam wrote an answer explaining their ideas in a clear and realistic way making some very clever remarks that would feel right at home here. The LA times didn't bother publishing the VP letter and I don't have the english text

I am not sure what every body here thinks about For Britain but I am impressed.

[Boac]

Never heard of them before but they have my vote.

[Capetonian]

Any party decried by its opponents as a 'racist, white nationalist political party' gets my support.

Seriously though, no. This Irish lady is no better than Katy Hopkins, just more plausible and less shouty, and I cannot support the sweeping anti-Islamic stance that so many of these people take.

[barkingmad]

CAPE: "I cannot support the sweeping anti-Islamic stance that so many of these people take".

That might depend on where you are currently resident? The recent outrage on London Bridge will endear neither the Islamist Fundamentalists on Earth to the folks in the UK nor the great "silent majority of peace-loving Moslems" in Britain and the EU. The latter group of jolly good integrated sharia-fancying "ordinary people" have not exactly filled the streets of European capitals with protests against the extremists and shouting the line "not in our name". And why not? Because they are fearful for their lives if seen and identified by their own radicals who will execute them for real or suspected apostasy as per Pakistan.

So 'these people' as you describe them are only trying to highlight the dangers so often ignored and brushed over by the legislators and the upholders of the law in this country and the EU.

Therefore it's really great and PC for the Canadians to scoff at Europeans' fear of the imminent mass migration from Africa, where allegedly 1/3 wants to move to Europe and those who've got as far as the Channel ports are being whipped into a frenzy of getting into Britain at all costs before our supposed Brexit 31/01/2020. However the Canadians smug elite tolerance and dismissal of our fears of such a planned invasion would be abandoned if those masses were positioned on their external borders. Though the Chump might have something to do with the rate of accretion on said borders?

I quote the Canadian view of so-called racism in UK just to illustrate the general point of enforced acceptance of mass influx of essentially alien cultures which are taking over from the indigenous culture. An aspect of immigration which the Canadians, Americans and Australians might like to reflect upon.

[Capetonian]

Anyone resident anywhere in Europe resents the invasion of alien invaders, wherever they be from and whatever creed they may follow. That they are allowed, even encouraged, to enter Europe is a travesty of the human rights of the native population. That undoubtedly makes me a racist and a bigot in the eyes of many. That's fine. I probably am.

What I do not accept is the propaganda painting all followers of Islam as evil. There is a lot of misinterpretation and distortion of the precepts of the faith and it is populist to depict it as evil. I can only subscribe to some, a minority, of its followers being evil.

Unlike many people, an even greater concern that I have is the invasion of third world savages from Africa, regardless of whether they are Muslim or anything else. My view is that they present a far greater danger than the Muslim invaders.

[Pontius Navigator]

Cape, true, but the problem is one of trust. As was said, if the moderate Muslim openly protests against terror they risk being attacked themselves. This lack of protest leaves them open to sususpicion

[Boac]

The lady speaks much sense. My only concern is the association with extreme far-right folk and the attraction for those to 'join' the party.

Otherwise I am following with interest and I hope they manage to keep control of the factions within.

As PN says, Cape, a little more 'reassurance' from those 'moderate Muslims' would go a long way, but is sadly very unlikely as the lady (and PN) said.