Royal Family Soap Opera

[Pontius Navigator]

Someone should ask her whether she was psychologically or physically cooerced or whether she acquiesced in the Royal Bonking. Preferably while strapped to a lie detector. Yes, coercion, he gets prosecuted. No, voluntary participation in Royal Rodgering, she is told to go away and shut up.

Doesn't change my opinion of Andrew but does change his status as guilty party.

OFSO, remember Profumo didn't resign for bonking a prostitute but for lying about it.

[OFSO]

But does "no recollection" equate to a denial ?

My opinion is that he's completely guilty of shagging 57 shades of purple out of the girl - and probably others, some under-age, some unwilling: but in law, it is not proven (yet) and hence in law, he is innocent.

We can't go on the basis of supposition or probability, can we. Has to be proven beyond all doubt. And IMHO that never will be. Unless he's stupid enough to admit it. (And judging on his previous performance( s) we can't rule that out).

[om15]

Unless he's stupid enough to admit it.

But we do have the upcoming next instalment of this cliff hangar from the BBC on a Panorama Royal Special, where, we understand, the young lady is going to enlighten us as to further facts, I would imagine the BBC legal team will be through on this, so any revelations must be pretty bomb proof and will be taken seriously.

We may have to decide which one is telling the truth, unless of course the young lady has some form of electronic evidence, a mobile telephone recording of the event that never happened should get the BBC Christmas ratings up I would have thought.

[k3k3]

TTN said: he has now indicated that he is willing to go to the USA to help with the enquiry into the activities of Jeffrey Epstein.

I don't think he went that far, I understood he said he would cooperate with the authorities as required. The question is, who decides what is required?

As for the seventeen year old, if she went with him willingly then no offence was committed as she is over the age of consent. If the accusation is she was trafficked, why did she not say anything to the various security, customs, immigration officers while transiting the airports?

I only met Prince Andrew once, didn't like him.

[ian16th]

Someone should ask her whether she was psychologically or physically cooerced or whether she acquiesced in the Royal Bonking. Preferably while strapped to a lie detector. Yes, coercion, he gets prosecuted. No, voluntary participation in Royal Rodgering, she is told to go away and shut up.

Doesn't change my opinion of Andrew but does change his status as guilty party.

OFSO

You are forgetting the American crime of Statutory Rape!

If she was coerced or not does not come into the equation.

If sex took place, he is guilty.

[probes]

But does "no recollection" equate to a denial ?
... Has to be proven beyond all doubt. And IMHO that never will be. Unless he's stupid enough to admit it. (And judging on his previous performance( s) we can't rule that out).

I haven't been a fan enough of the Royal Family to know anything much about the 'wider circle', so I had no opinion whatsoever about him, when I happened to see some of the
headlines on the 'car-crash' interview and got curious about what it actually was, being convinced the tabloids are making the grass dripping of green as usual. While watching it, I thought, Jeezz, he's talking as if he thinks 'no recollection' and 'no-no-no it definitely didn't happen' would settle everything, how can it possibly be? As if he's never thought about what can actually be proven to be lies (like the idiotic sweating - as if that was the issue. I didn't dance with her, because I don't sweat, how's that? - or dates that can be checked). Now it appears that's exactly what it was - him expecting everyone say 'yes, sir' and that's that.
AND that he had several years to think about what to say if confronted unexpectedly. Incl. maybe being less vocal about the Maxwell-pal being the 'real' friend. Which might prove even worse in the long run?
Well, incredible. Just incredible.

[Pontius Navigator]

Someone should ask her whether she was psychologically or physically cooerced or whether she acquiesced in the Royal Bonking. Preferably while strapped to a lie detector. Yes, coercion, he gets prosecuted. No, voluntary participation in Royal Rodgering, she is told to go away and shut up.

Doesn't change my opinion of Andrew but does change his status as guilty party.

OFSO

You are forgetting the American crime of Statutory Rape!

If she was coerced or not does not come into the equation.

If sex took place, he is guilty.

How do you figure SR, she was of a legal age.

[ian16th]

How do you figure SR, she was of a legal age.

Doesn't it depend which State it allegedly happened in?

[om15]

If it never happened the Royal Family would have closed ranks and said nothing. The ghastly interview indicates that he did in fact have something particularly unsavoury to hide and wanted to get his version in first.
But as this isn't the 15th century people may tend to make up their own minds about it all, especially when we hear the other version.
Everything this bloke says and does reinforces the impression that he really is an unpleasant bit of work and the best is yet to come.

[k3k3]

How do you figure SR, she was of a legal age.

Doesn't it depend which State it allegedly happened in?

They allege it happened after a night out in a club in London, London-on-Thames.

[ian16th]

How do you figure SR, she was of a legal age.

Doesn't it depend which State it allegedly happened in?

They allege it happened after a night out in a club in London, London-on-Thames.

Sorry,
I thought it was supposed to have happened in the USA.

So what has it got to do with the FBI?

Isn't London outside of their bailiwick?

[om15]

So what has it got to do with the FBI?

Possibly there are other things that they would like to have a chat about with his close friendship with Epstein.

[Pontius Navigator]

A month after London they had a return match in New York where the age of consent is 17. As there was a third tryst on Epstein s Island in the US VI in 2002 where consent is over 18 it depends on her age then.

Thin ice but looks like it was thick enough.

As far as the FBI are concerned, it becomes a Federal matter as more than one State is involved, the Mann Act and all that.

[John Hill]

Keep the FBI out until that woman who killed the motorcyclist returns to the UK to face consequences.

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John Hill Keep the FBI out until that woman who killed the motorcyclist returns to the UK to face consequences.

Agree - though the US has sorted out a few British villains who were playing games with the UK legal system, I wish it was a two way process.

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ian16th
Guilty of what?
Bad judgement?
Pumping a willing tart?
Being a twat?
Being a Royal Fanny?

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[Pontius Navigator]

Telegraph black headline above masthead again. I guess when he stops digging he can plant a tree.