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Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

#2701 Post by Ex-Ascot » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:56 am

They have been allocated seats in The Abbey. Buck House is also having cardboard cutouts prepared in case they do not turn up. South Park have been commissioned to produce them.

Prince Edward is to become The Duke of Edinburgh :-bd
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#2702 Post by G-CPTN » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:23 am

Is he tall enough?

Yes - same height as Philip.

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#2703 Post by Ex-Ascot » Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:52 am

The Sussex kids are not invited. Ginge and Nutmeg will probably go but will not be on the balcony. Down the pub with Uncle Andrew maybe.
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#2704 Post by PHXPhlyer » Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:26 pm

'Archie and Lilibet WON'T be invited to coronation but Camilla's grandchildren WILL': Royals in fresh snub to Harry and Meghan who 'they hope will be seated in Iceland' for ceremony
Harry and Meghan have been invited and are expected to be at event on May 6
Archie and Lilibet have not been invited but Camilla's grandchildren have been

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -snub.html

Prince Harry and Meghan's children have not been invited to the Coronation but the Queen Consort's grandchildren are expected to be invited in an official role, a report has claimed.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been invited and are expected to be at the event on May 6, but many family members are privately telling friends that they will give them the 'cold shoulder'.

In a fresh snub, members of the Royal Family are reportedly hoping that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex will be 'seated in Iceland' if they attend the Coronation of King Charles and Camilla as expected.

The Sussexes' children are considered by palace officials to be too young to attend the ceremony at Westminster Abbey, but the couple are likely to spend part of the day with Archie, who turns four on May 6, and Lilibet, now styled Prince and Princess, as they celebrate their son's birthday.

But whether or not they have the desire to bring their young children the Coronation a decision by the palace to exclude them is likely to inflame tensions.

It is currently expected that Prince George (left), nine, and his sister Princess Charlotte (centre), who will turn eight shortly before the ceremony, will attend. The decision on whether or not to bring Prince Louis (bottom right), who will turn five in April, is reportedly being 'pondered' by the Prince (second-left) and Princess of Wales (right)

It is currently expected that Prince George, nine, and his sister Princess Charlotte, who will turn eight shortly before the ceremony, will attend - as the future King is anticipated to play an official role.

The decision on whether or not to bring Prince Louis, who will turn five in April, is reportedly being 'pondered' by the Prince and Princess of Wales. However, it is likely he will make an appearance, the Sunday Telegraph reports.

Camilla's grandchildren are reportedly expected to attend their grandmother and step-Grandfather's coronation and have an official role.

The Queen Consort's son Tom Parker Bowles has two children, 15 and 13, and her daughter Laura Lopes has 13-year-old twins. She has reportedly hoping that they would carry the canopy that is placed over her as she is annointed.

However a Buckingham Palace source told The Sunday Times that it would be 'wholly improper' for discussions over roles for the Queen Consort's grandchildren but not her husband's.

Harry and Meghan will not be invited to take part in the official balcony appearance and many members of the family have no wish to socialise with the couple.

A friend of the family said: 'They will be given the cold shoulder by very many relatives. One said to me, "I hope they'll be seated in Iceland."

'Many of the family just want nothing more to do with them. If they have to see them at the Coronation then so be it, but they do not want to socialise with them.'

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have waged a campaign against their own family in a series of media interviews since quitting their Royal duties three years ago.

Last week, Prince Harry appeared in a televised interview with controversial 'trauma therapist' Gabor Mate in which he said he had 'learned a new language of therapy' but found that 'my family didn't speak that language'.

Many in the Royal Family are now bracing themselves for the arrival of the Sussexes in less than two months as the countdown to the Coronation continues.

The couple are expected to stay at Frogmore Cottage during their visit.

The lease on their home on the Windsor estate runs out at the end of March but they have been allowed to keep it going for a few months while they sort out their belongings and arrange for them to be shipped to California.

Prince William and Kate, Duchess of Cambridge pictured with the King and Queen Consort at the Commonwealth Service at Westminster Abbey last year
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Prince William and Kate, Duchess of Cambridge pictured with the King and Queen Consort at the Commonwealth Service at Westminster Abbey last year

Last week Harry and Meghan revealed that their children would use the Prince and Princess titles when they announced that their daughter Lilibet had been baptised in Montecito. As the grandchildren of a reigning monarch, the young Sussexes are entitled to the rank. After hearing that this was the Sussexes' wish, the official Royal website updated their titles accordingly. It is thought that Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet will also be able to use their 'HRH' status in future.

While Harry has agreed not to use his HRH title on account of leaving Royal duties, his children could still adopt theirs. Similarly, Prince Andrew has said he will not use HRH but his daughters, Beatrice and Eugenie, are entitled to.

Palace sources say that while the Sussexes will not appear on the balcony as part of the Coronation there was a discussion as to whether they would take part in other events surrounding the celebrations.

I think that the kids should be invited and Ginge and Wenge should be disinvited.
Rent a Royal Bouncy Castle for them and let them play and get acquainted with their cousins. :))

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#2705 Post by Ex-Ascot » Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:55 am

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#2706 Post by barkingmad » Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:28 am

Apropos the brilliant cartoon in the preceding post, I am curious as to whether Ginge was tested by a technique such as the reference here and was he enjoying this ‘recreation’ BEFORE he was trained to be a combat pilot removing chess pieces off the Afghanistan boards?

https://www.crystal-health.co.uk/drug-a ... l-testing/

Yes, I know he’s now practising a sparse follicle regime but there were always some available on the human body for analysis and now I will terminate the Too Much Information trail on that search for evidence. :))

And I have to presume that he was never subjected to the famous psychometric tests to which the majority of UK military pilots used to take prior to entry. But of course Granny owned the organisation and the fleets so maybe he was exempt... :-?

Otherwise all this mental health impediment about which we have heard so much might have been detected and then what might have transpired? :-w

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#2707 Post by Ex-Ascot » Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:45 am

Interesting Barking. Come on, he got into Sandhurst and in fact Eaton without the required academic qualifications. He was urgently needed back home where he had just come from when there was a routine drug test at his base. I doubt that he ever flew as the aircraft commander in the Apache. He was with a QFI/QWI all the time. OK all dangerous stuff, but he wasn't making the decisions. Or maybe his therapist was with him. The latest rumour is that Nutmeg may not go to the bash but he wants that nutty American therapist with him.

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#2708 Post by barkingmad » Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:04 pm

Thanks Ex-Ascot for the clarification to my musings!

Now for some odd reason I'm tempted into recovering old episodes of the TV series M A S H and watching them to see if they were prescient in looking ahead to our current decade... :YMAPPLAUSE: .

Maybe Ginge will return with his psycho therapist who might prescribe a lusty brief connubial roll in a meadow with the famous barmaid who allegedly deflowered him aeons ago.

Then perhaps we might see a reduction in the mental health problems which have for so long beset him.

He seems to forget there are multitudes of children in the World who have lost/are losing one or both parents but who bravely soldier on unknown and with minimal or no assistance compared with his privileged adequately funded but miserable existence. ~X(

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#2709 Post by Ex-Ascot » Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:56 am

They still have not had the decency to say if they are going or not. Buck house needs to know. They need to allocate a pillar to put them behind in Westminster Abbey.

Whose Exec Jet are they going to use this time. Reddo, any calls?
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#2710 Post by CharlieOneSix » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:19 am

Mrs C16 - who follows these things - tells me that having previously been welcome on Elton John's private jet, Ginge and Nutmeg have not been invited to his forthcoming 76th birthday celebrations on 25th March.
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#2711 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:15 pm

Mrs PN likewise says that they never reciprocated and indeed called him names.

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#2712 Post by OFSO » Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:00 pm

Turn on Channel 4 right now. Edward and Mrs Simpson. The parallels are stunning.

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#2713 Post by barkingmad » Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:04 pm

I did, but all I saw was an advert for Hilton hotels full of non-indigenous folks happily checking in for their stay somewhere. ~X(

I must check my remote for malfunctions...

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#2714 Post by OFSO » Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:08 pm

Stay with it, old boy....

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#2715 Post by 4mastacker » Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:59 pm

OFSO wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:00 pm
Turn on Channel 4 right now. Edward and Mrs Simpson. The parallels are stunning.
Almost uncanny. Mrs 4ma commented on the similarity of the centre parting style of both female's hair.
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#2716 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:41 pm

The difference bewteen the sum of the respective IQs would be interesting.

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#2717 Post by Ex-Ascot » Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:45 am

Is Ginge going to condemn this?: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/a ... ncess.html

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#2718 Post by Ex-Ascot » Tue Mar 21, 2023 9:29 am

Looks as if HMK may allow them on the balcony. Also Prince Andrew may be allowed to wear his KG kit.
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#2719 Post by PHXPhlyer » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:13 pm

So how DID Prince Harry get a US visa? Campaigners demand to know if Duke admitted 'multiple' drug use on application - and call for the royal to be deported if he lied about taking cocaine before moving to California

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -know.html

Prince Harry faces a fight to keep his US visa application secret today as campaigners demanded its release to see if he admitted his drug use before emigrating to California with Meghan Markle in 2020, MailOnline can reveal.

A conservative think tank is in the middle of a battle with Washington DC officials who are staunchly refusing to publish any details - including any texts or emails - citing the Duke of Sussex's 'privacy'.

In Spare and the TV blitz that followed, Harry admitted taking cocaine, cannabis and magic mushrooms. He said marijuana and psychedelics 'really helped' with his 'trauma' while cocaine was more a 'social thing'.

The Heritage Foundation says his visa application must now be released so the American taxpayer can understand whether Harry declared his drug use. US immigration law has harsh penalties for lying to immigration officials, including deportation and being barred from applying for citizenship.

Mike Howell, director of the Heritage Foundation's Oversight Project, said: 'This request is in the public interest in light of the potential revocation of Prince Harry’s visa for illicit substance use and further questions regarding the Prince’s drug use and whether he was properly vetted before entering the United States'.

Prince Harry wrote about his drug use in Spare and his subsequent TV promotion blitz for the book. He revealed that he was sent to meet residents at a rehabilitation centre when Prince Charles discovered he had been experimenting with cannabis and alcohol

Campaigners say the US taxpayer should learn more about Harry's entry to the US after Megxit

Experts have insisted US visa applications would usually be thrown out if there is any history of drug use. The Heritage Foundation says if border officials did know, Harry's case raises questions over whether he was given special treatment because he is a prince and his wife is a TV star, which they insist would be illegal.

Can drug users be banned from visiting the United States?
US officials can stop foreigners who have committed drugs offences entering the country even if they have never been arrested and charged by police.

Under US rules, suspected drug abusers applying for a visa may be required to answer additional medical history questions and also take a medical exam to prove that they are not still a drug abuser before being allowed to enter the country.

In high profile cases where celebrities who are known to have taken drugs want to come to America, they have been invited into the US embassy in London to take a drugs test.

Pete Doherty was famously banned from the US due to drug-related arrests.

In 2014 chef Nigella Lawson was banned from flying to the US because she confessed to taking drugs.

MailOnline has approached representatives for Prince Harry for comment.

A US State Department spokesman said: 'Visa records are confidential under Section 222(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA); therefore, we cannot discuss the details of individual visa cases'.

In his autobiography 'Spare', Harry revealed that he first took cocaine on a shooting weekend at age 17. He did a 'few more lines' on other occasions.

He also admitted to hallucinating during a celebrity-filled event in California and smoking cannabis after his first date with Meghan.

He also spoke about his ‘positive’ experience of psychedelic drug ayahuasca saying it ‘brought me a sense of relaxation, release, comfort, a lightness that I managed to hold on to for a period of time’.

The duke, 38, made the comments in an interview with therapist Dr Gabor Maté,an outspoken supporter of decriminalising drugs who has allegedly used Amazonian plant ayahuasca to treat patients suffering from mental illness.

Harry told him: ‘(Cocaine) didn’t do anything for me, it was more a social thing and gave me a sense of belonging for sure, I think it probably also made me feel different to the way I was feeling, which was kind of the point.

‘Marijuana is different, that actually really did help me.’

It has long been speculated that Harry could be working in the US on a fast track visa handed to people with 'extraordinary ability' - known as a O-1 visa. The O-1, also used by Canadian singer Justin Bieber and Australian actor Hugh Jackman, last for three years, meaning that Harry's renewal could be due with weeks.

Following the release of Spare in January, where the exiled royal revealed regular drug use, immigration experts warned he may have put his visa 'at risk' after admitting about his illicit drug use.

And today MailOnline can reveal that The Heritage Foundation, which took a leading role in the conservative movement during the presidency of Ronald Reagan and had a major influence on Donald Trump's administration, has asked for the release of his visa application demanding to know if Harry was 'properly vetted' before coming to America.

They also want to know if he admitted to officials that he took drugs, which immigration experts note meant he should have been denied residency in the US if he failed to disclose his narcotics usage during the application process.

Harry (pictured with his wife) moved to California with Meghan Markle in 2020. Most applicants with a history of drug use would be denied American visas, however immigration decisions are made on a 'case-by-case' basis

It is unclear what type of US visa Harry holds, but analysts speculate he either holds a spousal visa - sponsored by his American wife - or a O-1 visa which is given to people with 'extraordinary ability'

The Heritage Foundation has also compiled a dossier of evidence, including Harry's own admissions in his memoir and various TV interviews about taking cocaine, cannabis and magic mushrooms.

This has all been sent to the Department of Homeland Security, US Customs/Border Protection and US Citizenship Immigration Services to bolster their freedom of information request.

But US officials have so refused to release his visa application, citing 'privacy' concerns, but Mike Howell, director of the Heritage Oversight Project, insists it is in the 'public interest' to know how Harry's case was handled and has appealed the decision.

Mr Howell has also demanded to see any emails, texts, WhatsApps or other correspondence related to Harry's visa to ensure public confidence in how it was handled.

He said: 'Harry’s abuse of multiple illicit substances, including marijuana, cocaine, “magic mushrooms,” and other psychedelic drugs.

'It is unclear at this juncture whether DHS complied with the law if, in admitting Prince Harry, did so without a waiver or any interview with CBP to assess whether, given his history, he was admissible to the United States.

'As a result, this widespread media interest in Prince Henry’s drug abuse inevitably raises possible questions regarding his application for residency in the United States.

'Public confidence in the government would undoubtedly suffer if DHS, CBP, and USCIS failed to properly vet such a high-profile case.

'Moreover, if Prince Harry was granted preferential treatment that too would undermine public confidence in DHS, CPB, and USCIS’s application of equal justice under the law'.

Following the release of Spare, immigration experts warned The Duke of Sussex could be barred from the US and put his visa 'at risk' after admitting about his illicit drug usage.

American authorities note entry into the country is granted on a 'case-by-case' basis - and it is unclear if Harry, who moved to California with his wife Meghan Markle in 2020, detailed his drug use on his visa application.

US State Department officials have repeatedly declined to answer queries about Harry's immigration status

Immigration experts claim Harry may have received discretion during his visa application process because of his royal status.

The Sussexes relocated to California in 2020, meaning his visa could be set to expire this year. Any renewal application could be impacted by his newly admitted history with drugs.

Anyone seeking temporary or permanent residency in the US must answer a series of questions about their criminal and drug history during when applying.

'He would have been asked [about drug use]. If he was truthful in his answers, he should have been denied,' Prof Alberto Benítez, director of George Washington University's Immigration Clinic, said recently/

The professor argued that if Harry did not detail his drug use, he would have been 'perjuring himself on an official US government document'.

He claimed honesty would have been in the Duke's 'best interest' and noted he may have received discretion from immigration officials because of his royal status.

'If he wasn't Prince Harry, if he was 'Fred Jones' and he had this kind of a background, he'd have a lot more scrutiny and I could certainly see the green card being denied,' Prof Benitez added.

US State Department officials have repeatedly declined to answer whether his admission of drug use would 'cause difficulties' with his immigration status - or if he had detailed any drug use before.

'Visa records are confidential under US law; therefore, we cannot discuss the details of individual visa cases. We cannot speculate on whether someone may or may not be eligible for a visa,' a spokesman said in January

'Whenever an individual applies for a US visa, a consular officer reviews the facts of the case and determines whether the applicant is eligible for that visa based on US law.

'All visa applications are adjudicated on a case-by-case basis.'

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Re: The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

#2720 Post by Boac » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:55 pm

Very entertaining! The question is, if they sling him out, do we want him back here?

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