The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

[llondel]

Prince Harry has filed a claim for a judicial review over a Home Office decision to not to allow him to privately pay for police protection for himself and his family during a visit to the UK.

https://news.sky.com/story/prince-harry ... k-12517296

At least he's willing to foot the bill himself, probably knows what the reaction would be otherwise.

[Ex-Ascot]

This is not him, she is behind it with her sue culture.

[Pontius Navigator]

A legal representative for Harry said he wants to bring his son Archie and seven-month-old baby daughter Lilibet to visit from the US, but fears they will be "unable to return to his home" because it is too dangerous.

As long as social services don't get involved.

Anyway, are they saying he will get no police protection or that he can't bung them a few quid from grannie?

[Boac]

Anyway, are they saying he will get no police protection or that he can't bung them a few quid from grannie?

Read post #1?

[Ex-Ascot]

They are no longer Royals they do not qualify for PPOs.

[Boac]

They have not, as far as I know, asked for any?

[Pontius Navigator]

THE Duke of Sussex has said he does not feel safe in the UK, as he challenges a Home Office decision not to allow him to personally pay for police protection for him and his family.

Presumably because he asked for or was told he would not get tax payer funded PPO.

[Boac]

Do you mean

Presumably because he assumed asked for or was told he would not get tax payer funded PPO.

or do you know differently? It seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable request to ask to be allowed to pay for his and his family's protection.

[Karearea]

I'm surprised he's even considering this: surely the police are not to be in the pay of anybody, or do the bidding of any individual.

[llondel]

Large events generally pay for the cost of policing them, so there's precedent for private funds contributing to the police. Reading the article, I think this is the relevant sentence:

Harry is now arguing his private protection team in the US does not have access to UK intelligence information which is needed to keep his wife and children safe.

He is probably well aware that such information is available and that's what he really wants, for his personal bodyguards to be given that information where it applies to him and his family.

[Pontius Navigator]

Duke of Sussex announced he will not bring his family to Britain unless he receives police protection.

The Duke is threatening to sue the Home Office over its refusal to provide security on his visits to the UK. He has insisted he has offered to pay for the Scotland Yard protection officers himself, but that his offer has been declined.

clear enough?

[FD2]

By offering to pay (s)he has wrong footed the police/palace. Anyway more fuss and publicity is just what the Queen wants to liven up the platinum celebrations.

[FD2]

'Scotland Yard not for hire' 'outrage' etc etc.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... urity.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ps-UK.html

[CharlieOneSix]

Duke of Sussex announced he will not bring his family to Britain unless he receives police protection....

Jolly good, let them stay where they are....permanently. If they get police protection the next thing you’d know any B list actress would be requesting it…

[Pontius Navigator]

Thought they had

[Ex-Ascot]

Don't see what her sorry his problem is. There are plenty of security firms in the UK which offer private protection. It is just that she wants the Royal Protection Officers. As the Met has said, they are not for hire.

Are private protection officers in the UK allowed to be armed? This may be her problem.

Anyway as C16 says let them stay over there but please don't let them come here.

[Boac]

Scotland Yard not for hire' 'outrage' etc etc.

Unless there is a peerage on offer, of course?

[Undried Plum]

I'm uncomfortable with agreeing with Priti Patel, but she's 100% right. SO14 should never become a guns_for_hire outfit.

They have a very specific role and are amply resourced for the task which they do so well (mostly).

Harry's problem, one which he shares with Andrew, is that he has an overdeveloped sense of entitlement. He's just a British expat who occasionally visits Britain. That's all. Sure, he's got oodles of boodle and can easily afford to pay the financial costs of the best security bodyguards that money can buy, but he ain't a senior member of the royal family and he's not entitled to SO14 protection unless there is specific Intel of a credible threat - such as when Forth Bridge went down. When London Bridge goes down he will undoubtedly be given SO14 protection for his attendance at the funeral. That is quite right and proper.

Else, he's just a filthy rich bloke who want a security detail which has the powers of traffic stopping and arrest and gun-carrying. Invoking those powers to prevent photographers from taking pictures of him in a public place is not appropriate.

[Ex-Ascot]

No UP I do not see why he should get SO14 protection regardless of the reason of their visit. They are no longer Royal . Her decision. His right to bonk.

[1DC]

I suppose the only way to get the publicity which they allegedly don't want but seem to crave is to drag it out into the open. Surely anyone who wants to be serious about personal security would want to keep it a secret. Then again I suppose you need some level of intelligence to figure that out..