Andrew to the Tower?

[AtomKraft]

I don't know why he doesn't just admit he shagged her, and say he paid for it?

That'll make him a punter, and her a whore.

Which, is surely about the size of it?

At 17, a girl knows what she is doing and isn't under age to do it with whoever she likes.

[G-CPTN]

What would the punishment be for 'underage sex' - ie at age 17?

[FD2]

I thought only one of the three alleged shags took place in a country where the age of consent was 18?

[G-CPTN]

I think that the question is whether the female 'was of legal age at the time', regardless of the country of action.

[Boac]

isn't under age to do it

While your criteria are probably very lax, you should check your facts?

[Pontius Navigator]

I think that the question is whether the female 'was of legal age at the time', regardless of the country of action.

Which could be anywhere from 12-21 and result in stoning to death depending on State or Country. In the current case I think 17 and 18 were legal in the respective jurisdictions. Certainly 17 is not illegal in UK, but then knowing or suspecting she was trafficked is an offence.

Of underage sex, which in this case is in the USA, the offence is statutory rape, but this is not the issue.

The prosecution is a civil one for MONEY. But the stake is higher. If you lose you could then be open to a criminal prosecution for rape or trafficking.

There is a lot more at stake than 'face'.

[Pontius Navigator]

Take Florida for instance :
Statutory rape in Florida carries a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison and a fine of $10,000 for first-time offenders. Stiffer penalties apply to habitual offenders and can include up to 40 years or life in prison.3 Oct 2018

[FD2]

Bet he's remembered how to sweat now.

[AtomKraft]

I see the age of consent in California, where Victoria was born, is 18.

I bet that law is rarely broken.....

[FD2]

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[Undried Plum]

I don't know why he doesn't just admit he shagged her, and say he paid for it?

If he had an ounce of honour in his bones (or genes), he'd do exactly that.

He's got the money, but not the honour. He should pay the tart for her labour(s) and settle the matter.

To avoid dragging his semi-family into the dirt he should resign from several offices which came from his German family connections.

eg, he should renounce his title to:


Duke of Pork

Earl of Inverness [Many Scots would be well rid of him on that one]

Baron Killyleagh [Many bogtrotters would be well rid of him on that one too]

Vice Admiral [Ooh! the irony in that one]


Then there's the German stuff such as:

Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order

Knight Commander of the Royal Victorian Order

Commander of the Royal Victorian Order

Most Noble Order of the Garter



Then there's other stuff:

The Royal Norwegian Order of Saint Olav

Collar of the Order of the Federation (UAE)

Order of the Aztec Eagle (Mexico)

Order of Isabella the Catholic (Guess where)


Then there's various others that he has let down by reputation:

Colonel in Chief of The Queen's York Rangers (1st American Regiment)

Colonel in Chief of The Royal Highland Fusiliers of Canada

Colonel in Chief of The Princess Louise Fusiliers

Colonel in Chief of The Canadian Airborne Regiment

Colonel in Chief of The Royal New Zealand Army Logistic Regiment


That stuff is merely a warmup for his local admirers.



He's also:


Colonel of the Grenadier Guards (yes, really)

Colonel in Chief of the 9th/12th Royal Lancers

Colonel in Chief of The Royal Irish Regiment

Colonel in Chief of The Small Arms School Corps

Colonel in Chief of The 14th/15th, 19th and 33rd/76th Foot

Colonel in Chief of The Yorkshire Regiment

Colonel in Chief of The Royal Regiment of Scotland (pretty much the remnant of every Regiment in Scotland that has ever existed)

et al etc etc.


He should renounce all those titles and just **** into oblivion.

He should just pay the no-longer young tart her dues and he should then just fade away.

Britain doesn't need him or is loins. Nor hers.

[Boac]

Oh dear! From 'The International Business Times':

Prince Andrew is desperate to raise funds to shoulder the mounting cost of his sexual abuse case against Virginia Roberts Giuffre by himself. He is said to be looking for fast cash through the sale of his Chalet Helora in the ski resort of Verbier, Switzerland.

The Swiss chalet is said to be the only means of money for the Duke of York now that he is no longer a working royal. He and his ex-wife Sarah Ferguson bought the seven-bedroom property in 2014 from French millionaire Isabelle de Rouvre for £16.6m. Last September they agreed to sell it to a rich European investor but the deal has yet to be completed.

Prince Andrew is said to be pushing for the sale to go through "urgently." He not only needs the money for his sexual abuse case. He also has to pay Rouvre the £6.6million he owes from the original purchase of the chalet.

"It is crunch time for Andrew on several fronts. He is meeting all the costs himself so he needs to raise cash fast to pay bills which are increasing by the day," a source told the Mirror adding, "If there was the potential to settle, well, that is an option, but it is in no doubt that the Queen would not assist him in doing so."

Prince Charles and Prince William are also said to be "absolutely furious" at the suggestion that the 95-year-old British monarch could be asked to settle the bills. They are "both of the opinion" that the Duke of York can find a way out of his own mess.

The 61-year old "wants to clear his name" from accusations that he sexually abused Giuffre three times when she was only 17 years old. But he does not want to do so in court as he fears that a trial could cause irreparable damage to the reputation of the British monarchy.

As such, Prince Andrew is said to be looking to settle the case outside of court. This would mean putting out a hefty sum which sources claimed could go as high as £3million. Queen Elizabeth II will reportedly "not assist" with the settlement.

[Pontius Navigator]

Prince Andrew is desperate to raise funds to shoulder the mounting cost of his sexual abuse case against Virginia Roberts Giuffre by himself. He is said to be looking for fast cash through the sale of his Chalet Helora in the ski resort of Verbier, Switzerland.

Odd word order.

As writ it seems to suggest his case is against Giuffre whereas we know it is his defence.

[Boac]

Odd word order

[FD2]

[G-CPTN]

It's not over yet.

Prince Andrew to face civil sex assault case

[Boac]

Poor Liz.

[Pontius Navigator]

"He has consistently denied the claims"

That being the case, go to court, leave without a stain on his character, and counter sue for defamation of character.

What innocent person would offer 5 million to have the case withdrawn?

[Undried Plum]

For the German family: it's small beer.

Just pay the bitch off.

£5M; £50M; whatever.

Just get rid.

[Boac]

It isn't all about money, you know.