Andrew to the Tower?

[Pontius Navigator]

I read a good book.

[barkingmad]

tango15 sez: "Advance apologies to our friends in the Antipodes, since they will never know of what I speak, but did any of our UK-based correspondents see that pathetic programme on ITV last night about Andrew?"

Many thanks for that, I won't waste time trying to catch up on that one and will move on to something with more substance !

[PHXPhlyer]

Prince Andrew wants a jury trial if Virginia Giuffre lawsuit is not dismissed

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pr ... -rcna13686

NEW YORK — Prince Andrew wants a jury to decide a lawsuit by a sexual assault accuser if he can’t get the case dismissed altogether, his lawyers said in court papers Wednesday.

Virginia Giuffre, an American, has accused the British royal of sexually abusing her when she was 17 while she traveled with financier Jeffrey Epstein. The request from Andrew’s lawyers was inside a line-by-line formal response to the lawsuit Giuffre filed against him in August in Manhattan federal court.

Andrew has strenuously denied Giuffre’s allegations, and attempted to get the lawsuit tossed. Earlier this month, Judge Lewis A. Kaplan rejected his attempt to win an early dismissal, allowing depositions and other evidence gathering by both parties to move forward.

Wednesday’s response was filed by Los Angeles attorneys Andrew Brettler and Melissa Lerner. They said the lawsuit should be dismissed on several grounds, again citing Giuffre’s permanent residency in Australia and a settlement over a decade earlier between Epstein and Giuffre that Andrew’s lawyers contend prevents her from suing the prince. They also argued that she consented to sexual activity and the statute of limitations has expired.

Giuffre asserted that she met Andrew while she traveled frequently with Epstein between 2000 and 2002, when her lawyers maintain she was “on call for Epstein for sexual purposes” and was “lent out to other powerful men,” including Andrew. Her lawsuit said she still suffers significant emotional and psychological distress and harm.

In the wake of the judge’s decision earlier in January, Prince Andrew — who had already stepped back from royal duties — was stripped of his honorary military titles.

Epstein, 66, took his own life in a Manhattan federal lockup in August 2019 while he awaited trial on sex trafficking charges. Giuffre has also leveled allegations at Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s longtime companion, but was not part of the criminal case that ended recently with Maxwell’s conviction on sex trafficking charges.

The Associated Press does not typically identify people who say they are victims of sexual assault unless they choose to come forward publicly, as Giuffre has.

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[Undried Plum]

Let me get this right.

Prince Andrew, Knight of the Garter, wants to be judged by a jury of his peers in New York.

Is this some kind of Alternate Universe thing?

[llondel]

Let me get this right.

Prince Andrew, Knight of the Garter, wants to be judged by a jury of his peers in New York.

Is this some kind of Alternate Universe thing?

I'm sure it's possible to empanel a jury of people wearing garters in New York.

[Undried Plum]

Garters of the night i'nt quite the same thing, but I get your drift.

[Undried Plum]

Now he's found it propitious to discontinue his honorary membership of the Royal and Ancient.

[Boac]

Was that because of a hole in one? (Re-arrange words to suit)

[PHXPhlyer]

Prince Andrew agrees to give statement under oath in March

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/06/uk/princ ... index.html

London (CNN)Britain's Prince Andrew has agreed to give a statement under oath on March 10 in the UK as part of the civil case against him, a source close to the Duke of York told CNN on Saturday.

Virginia Giuffre, who alleges she was trafficked by disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein and forced to perform sex acts with the prince at the age of 17, "still hasn't committed to a date or location for her deposition," the source added.
Giuffre's lawyer David Boies last month said in a statement that her legal team was looking "forward to confronting Prince Andrew with his denials and attempts to blame Ms. Giuffre for her own abuse at his deposition and at trial."
Boies and another lawyer representing Giuffre, Sigrid McCawley, will conduct the deposition, which is expected to last two days, according to the Daily Telegraph.
Andrew, 61, has repeatedly denied Giuffre's allegations.

The legal drama currently playing out stems from a civil case Giuffre brought against Andrew under New York's Child Victims Act, a state law enacted in 2019 which expanded the statute of limitations in child sex abuse cases to give survivors more opportunities to seek justice. An attorney for Giuffre told CNN in August filing the civil case was to show "all perpetrators of abuse should be held accountable."
After a judge ruled the case could proceed, Andrew formally denied allegations and demanded a jury trial, according to a legal filing last month in the US District Court for the Southern District of New York.
Andrew has until July 14 to potentially answer questions about the case under oath. If the case is not settled, he could face a trial date between September and December 2022.
The deposition date revelation comes as Queen Elizabeth marked 70 years on the throne, and the ongoing legal battle will loom over celebrations for the monarch's historic milestone throughout the year.
The case could have major ramifications for Buckingham Palace. It would be unprecedented for a senior British royal to be entangled in a very public civil lawsuit that would attract attention from around the world.
The long-running allegations against the Queen's third child have already dramatically tarnished his public standing, and he stepped back from royal duties in late 2019. He was also stripped of military titles and charities last month.

PP

[barkingmad]

Revising the Naughty Andrew syllabus here, before my test on the topic, I note Ian16th said "The distance and angle from his left shoulďer to his purported left hand, does not appear natural."

And Alison said "When you look closer, taking his shoulders as being virtually level, his left hand/arm seems much longer than his right."

Agreed, but what has also bothered me is the discrepancy between Andrew's facial colour and that of the strange hands, the left one of which appears to be checking for Wotsername's muffin-top.

Unless he's been massaging her whilst she was on a sunbed, otherwise how would he acquire such a deep degree of sunburn on the hands but nothing like that on his neck and face?

Just pondering...

I won't speculate on the skin tone of any other parts of the royal personage as they will obviously be private!

[FD2]

Away from the world of conspiracy, here's someone who claims that Andy Pander takes the whole 'Rum, Bum and Baccy' thing too seriously:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -pest.html

[Wodrick]

See he has settled out of court - admission of guilt ?

[TheGreenGoblin]

See he has settled out of court - admission of guilt ?

He will claim not, but yes, that is the way it will be perceived. Methinks his days of official duties are over.

[Boac]

Methinks his days of official duties are over.

I thought they were?

[TheGreenGoblin]

Methinks his days of official duties are over.

I thought they were?

In perpetuity, this time, given that his previous stated aim was to clear his name, and thus, presumably seek to return to the fold.

[Undried Plum]

Capitulation, such as this, was his only way out.

Putting himself in a position of having to take the witness stand in a New York court would have been catastrophic for him.

This way, he gets off any criminal charges in an American court, though he'd be wise to avoid visiting any US territorial possession for the rest of his life just in case other evidence surfaces and comes back to haunt him.

[PHXPhlyer]

Prince Andrew settles sex abuse lawsuit with Virginia Giuffre
In the letter, the British royal said that he would make a “substantial” donation to Giuffre’s victims rights group and that he “never intended to malign” her character.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pr ... -rcna16308

Prince Andrew has reached a legal settlement with a woman who alleges she was 17 when she was sexually abused by the British royal, according to a legal filing made public Tuesday.

The move came more than a month after U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan for the Southern District of New York rejected Andrew's bid to dismiss a federal lawsuit brought by Virginia Giuffre.

“Virginia Giuffre and Prince Andrew have reached an out of court settlement," David Boies, Giuffre’s lawyer, said in a letter filed to the court.

"The parties will file a stipulated dismissal upon Ms. Giuffre’s receipt of the settlement (the sum of which is not being disclosed)."

Giuffre has long alleged she was trafficked to Andrew, son of Queen Elizabeth II, by convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and his recently-convicted confidante, the British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell.

In the letter, Andrew said that he would make a “substantial” donation to Giuffre’s victims rights group and that he “never intended to malign” her character.

“It is known that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked countless young girls over many years,” the letter states. “Prince Andrew regrets his association with Epstein, and commends the bravery of Ms. Giuffre and other survivors in standing up for themselves and others. He pledges to demonstrate his regret for his association with Epstein by supporting the fight against the evils of sex trafficking, and by supporting its victims.”

A representative for Prince Andrew declined to comment on the latest development.

A Buckingham Palace official also declined to comment saying, “It is a matter for the Duke and his legal team."

Giuffre, now living in Australia, claims Epstein and Maxwell forced her in the 1990s to have sex with Andrew, an allegation both the prince and Maxwell have repeatedly denied.

So did Epstein, who hanged himself in a Manhattan jail in 2019.

Andrew, via his lawyers, tried and failed several times to derail Giuffre's lawsuit.

First they tried to argue that the suit should be dismissed because Giuffre not longer lives in the United States, but Kaplan disagreed.

Then, Andrew's lawyers released details of a legal settlement in which she took $500,000 from Epstein in 2009 not to bring further legal action.

Kaplan said that the prince’s efforts to bring up the settlement were premature.

The day after the ruling, Buckingham Palace signaled it was distancing itself from the controversial case by announcing that Andrew would no longer use the style “His Royal Highness” in any official capacity.

“The Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending this case as a private citizen,” it said.

How much is substantial?
Is she an employee of her victims rights group so she can access the moola?

PP

[Undried Plum]

It's a lot of money.

Else, he wouldn't have paid it to her.

And she wouldn't have accepted it.

[FD2]

She'll be able to afford more Aussie pies now. Who could blame her - it must have been a nervous few years.

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Seriously though, good luck to her in the future - she has sorted out the most entitled, self-opinionated and annoying oaf in the RF - better late than never - so enjoy those pies, girl!

[johngreen]

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