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Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:46 am
by Pontius Navigator
Would you want Ghislaind Maxwell to testify on your behalf for anything ?
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:02 am
by Ex-Ascot
I believe that because it is a civil case HRH can't be extradited so what a waste of money. Wonder if a newspaper is paying. He just denies charges and it rumbles on for years with no result. Gives the gutter press something to fill their chip wrappers with.
Pound to a pinch of wotsit she boasted about being bonked by a British Royal to her mates.
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:04 am
by EA01
No where ever have I seen or heard of her parents through all of this...they were happy for her to go?, was she an Orphan??
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:08 am
by CharlieOneSix
Ms Giuffre's lawyer says:
.......people "ignore the courts at your peril" and that "it would be very ill-advised for Prince Andrew to ignore judicial process".
So it's ill advised to ignore judicial process is it? That is exactly what American Anne Sacoolas has done in not returning from the USA to the UK to face criminal charges filed against her for causing death by dangerous driving when she mowed down motorcyclist Harry Dunn.
It seems alright for an American to ignore judicial process so why do they expect any different in this case. As far as Prince Andrew is concerned I have no sympathy. To avoid a head on collision he almost drove me into a ditch when he overtook me in a green Range Rover when he was enroute from Balmoral to Aberdeen Airport about 35 years ago.
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:18 am
by Pontius Navigator
C16, as a mere peasant you had no right to block his passage, unlike his to block her's.
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:26 pm
by Undried Plum
The Porchester kid is a bloody fool.
Criminal charges against him would be extremely difficult to prove and an acquittal would enable him to deny having shagged the wee lassie.
The standard of proof in civil cases is vastly lower than in criminal cases. In a civil case he is likely to be found to have porked a very young bint who had been trafficked for sexual purposes.
Also, her background as an employee of Chump when she was pimped by Maxwell will bring all kinds of stuff into the public domain which we don't yet know about.
He really is a bloody fool. He's got himself into a corner from which he cannot defend himself. He can't go to the US personally as a he knows that he will be arrested and imprisoned instantly. He will have to pay million$ to Septic lawyers to defend him from the civil action. If he doesn't, then he will be hounded by debt collectors for the rest of his life. Either way, he's screwed.
That disastrous tv interview occurred because he disregarded the wise advice of his advisors who advised him not to participate. I suspect that he's also disregarded his legal advisors too.
He's now on his own and he's ****. It's only because he's his mother's favourite son that he's not being given the ginger treatment, but the German tribe will not intervene to help him in any way which might subsequently be made public. He's ****.
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:24 pm
by llondel
CharlieOneSix wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:08 am
Ms Giuffre's lawyer says:
.......people "ignore the courts at your peril" and that "it would be very ill-advised for Prince Andrew to ignore judicial process".
So it's ill advised to ignore judicial process is it? That is exactly what American Anne Sacoolas has done in not returning from the USA to the UK to face criminal charges filed against her for causing death by dangerous driving when she mowed down motorcyclist Harry Dunn.
It seems alright for an American to ignore judicial process so why do they expect any different in this case. As far as Prince Andrew is concerned I have no sympathy. To avoid a head on collision he almost drove me into a ditch when he overtook me in a green Range Rover when he was enroute from Balmoral to Aberdeen Airport about 35 years ago.
Well, it is his mother's road you were on.
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:09 am
by johngreen
I have little knowledge and even less interest in the protagonist of this pitiful drama but someone has thought about and presented some alternative views regarding one of the main subjects of this sad and sorry tale (tail?!).
As is so often seen to be the case in public affairs, presenting doubt can be a very effective part of a defence, even if what is presented is actually totally unfounded.
https://vote-watch.com/2021/07/06/princ ... ing-truth/
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:44 pm
by llondel
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Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:00 pm
by AtomKraft
Oh and when he was up he was up!
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:52 pm
by PHXPhlyer
johngreen wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:09 am
I have little knowledge and even less interest in the protagonist of this pitiful drama but someone has thought about and presented some alternative views regarding one of the main subjects of this sad and sorry tale (tail?!).
As is so often seen to be the case in public affairs, presenting doubt can be a very effective part of a defence, even if what is presented is actually totally unfounded.
https://vote-watch.com/2021/07/06/princ ... ing-truth/
Interesting article.
PP
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:06 pm
by Pontius Navigator
But what of the other women now accusing him?
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:09 pm
by Undried Plum
How much did Andrew pay for that article to be contrived?
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:17 pm
by Ex-Ascot
Prince Andrew allegations: Met chief says ‘no one is above the law’
So, no, but what is it to do with her. Did he commit a crime on British soil? Maybe she is jealous given her leanings.
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:33 pm
by TheGreenGoblin
Ex-Ascot wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:17 pm
Prince Andrew allegations: Met chief says ‘no one is above the law’
So, no, but what is it to do with her. Did he commit a crime on British soil? Maybe she is jealous given her leanings.
Whatever the case, the man is a low life who has shot his bolt (ahem) socially worldwide!
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:52 am
by G-CPTN
PRINCE Andrew is hiding in his royal mansion to avoid officials trying to serve a rape lawsuit on him, it is claimed.
Security guards stopped “multiple attempts” by lawyers last week to hand the document to The Duke of York at Royal Lodge.
If he refuses to accept the civil summons, issued by a New York court clerk three weeks ago, the Duke risks facing a “judgment by default” next month.
An insider said “more attempts will be made” to hand the papers to Andrew but a source said: “There’s no way he will risk poking his head outside right now. He will stay out of view.”
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:30 am
by TheGreenGoblin
G-CPTN wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:52 am
PRINCE Andrew is hiding in his royal mansion to avoid officials trying to serve a rape lawsuit on him, it is claimed.
Security guards stopped “multiple attempts” by lawyers last week to hand the document to The Duke of York at Royal Lodge.
If he refuses to accept the civil summons, issued by a New York court clerk three weeks ago, the Duke risks facing a “judgment by default” next month.
An insider said “more attempts will be made” to hand the papers to Andrew but a source said: “There’s no way he will risk poking his head outside right now. He will stay out of view.”
What a craven individual. He may escape being served but his evasive action will damn him in the world court of public opinion forever.
Such are the dross that seem to have floated to the top in our little cesspit!
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:36 am
by OFSO
I'm in my own cesspit, not his (nor yours, matey).
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:44 am
by TheGreenGoblin
OFSO wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:36 am
I'm in my own cesspit, not his (nor yours, matey).
Yep, but each personal cesspit contributes to the overall stench, midst the bigger communal block of gaudily coloured plastic cabins in the facililies of our lives, in this world spinning crazily through the universe.
Re: Andrew to the Tower?
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:32 am
by Pontius Navigator
TGG,
What a craven individual. He may escape being served but his evasive action will damn him in the world court of public opinion forever.
That point was passed long ago. What remains is the fallout after he is thrown into the pit.
Best he stays where he is, forever and ever amen.