War in Australia - Australian Politics

[SOPS]

It seems that the Somalian youth are attacking the citizens of Melbourne again. This time, with machetes. It really is time they deported all of them, and their families. They seem to like being in a war zone so much, send them back to one.

[Slasher]

I still remember Oz and I know nothing will change. The parasitic bleeding-heart brigade of the ALP loony Left will forever side with murderous foreign trash and ensure even more taxpayer funds will be spent in maintaining their current residence and lifestyle.

It's not a Pauline Hanson the country needs - it's the elimination of the socialists' grip on power, of which they have far far too much.

[SOPS]

And the fear the right has of upsetting these moron minorities. Europe is being over run, if something is not done Australia will be next.

[Pinky the pilot]

Slasher and SOPS: I suspect that many of the 'silent majority' of Australians would agree with you!

The average Australian can only be pushed so far! I fear that the limit is not too far off...

[SOPS]

Looks like the Burke street murderer could be a little..um...unhinged.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-19/b ... ur/8454290

[SOPS]

And in more Melbourne news...looks like war is breaking out amongs our Lebaneese ' freinds'
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-19/m ... ay/8454636

[SOPS]

And as an aside, why are my post numbers not going up?

[admin]

And as an aside, why are my post numbers not going up?

All of your posting numbers go up together. So even your very first posting will now show your total todate. Thus if you post again your post numbers will then all show 944.

Admin

[SOPS]

Roger, thanks, now I understand.

[Slasher]

Mate of mine in Brizzy complaining of his lecky bills emailed me this...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-05/how-energy-rich-australia-ended-up-with-world-s-priciest-power

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[Sisemen]

It’s astounding that, sitting on the world’s largest reserves of coal, and vast gas fields tapped and untapped, Australia has managed to cripple itself by listening to the loony Greenies.

[John Hill]

It does look dark over there...

.....meanwhile it has been pouring with rain for what seems like months (or maybe it being school holidays it seems that way) so there should be plenty of water in the hydro lakes. Why dont you run a flex over here, we might have plenty but it is not cheap.

[BenThere]

But you get the free energy from the sunshine and wind, right? Yet somehow your bills are higher, and a lot of your tax contribution is spent on it. That's the Green payoff. The timeless lesson of market efficiency was rejected democratically, and now you've got to pay.

Thankfully, Australia has enormous resources and can recover. But first they have to figure out the Green scam and reject it. That's a big if.

[Alisoncc]

Sorry BenT, but it has little to do with your diatribe against renewables and greenies. Australia is seen by far too many as a resource to be exploited for maximum personal gain. As for market efficiency - pure BS, this is it in action. Natural gas producers are shipping gas overseas in massive quantities, such that Japanese users are paying less than Australians. Why, because the producers have some never-ending contract, the government allows them to and the local market is too small to warrant consideration and they really don't give a sh*t about local consumers. It is a 100% f*ckup by a right-wing government who are more interested in getting a share of the revenue than providing for their own citizens.

Want another example. Where I live there are hundreds of miles of coastline with off-shore fishing that is the envy of many, yet can I buy decent fish where I live. No way. It all gets shipped to Asia with none available for the local market. So all I get to buy is imported Danish frozen farmed salmon at the supermarket or second-rate Thai prawns. Watched a news clip the other day where live lobsters were being packed for the Asian market. Try and buy one here and you've got Buckleys chance.

Alison

[John Hill]

But you get the free energy from the sunshine and wind, right? Yet somehow your bills are higher, and a lot of your tax contribution is spent on it. That's the Green payoff. The timeless lesson of market efficiency was rejected democratically, and now you've got to pay.

Wrong Benny. Some of our power is from wind and maybe a little from sunshine but most is from rainfall. There is a goodly proportion from geothermal too. About 80% of NZ power is from renewable sources (that means 'green' to you )

[John Hill]

. So all I get to buy is imported Danish frozen farmed salmon at the supermarket or second-rate Thai prawns. Watched a news clip the other day where live lobsters were being packed for the Asian market. Try and buy one here and you've got Buckleys chance.

Alison

We get to eat salmon three days a week or so, fresh vacuum packed, and I ate so much rock lobster when I was young that I never want to see it again.

[Slasher]

Thankfully, Australia has enormous resources and can recover. But first they have to figure out the Green scam and reject it. That's a big if.

For a foreigner you're quite accurate Ben. Back when I left Oz the big buzz among greenies was uranium. Australia has stacks of it and I'm not talking about that trashy pitchblende stuff. Greenies, aka the new Reds, equate uranium mining with nuclear bombs and the C word that causes them to bleat like stuck pigs - Capitalism. That's the reality. More recently was the fiasco re coal contracts to India. That market would've generated something like $200 mill Aussie just on initial futures alone.

BHP (Billiton), a local mining and petroleum company that has up till now garnered enduring respect from investors internationally, is another story. It's share prices fell in May after a Liberal Party member (surprisingly not an ALP one) and federal Treasurer called Morrison blocked an intelligent move by a savvy mob called Elliott Management when it showed its hand on April 10th. Whether that was an appeasing move to the local Left ratbaggery in some way I wouldn't know. I haven't heard of any socialists mounting his arse on a pedestal for it.

Elliott, led by U.S. financier Paul Singer, wants BHP to spin off its U.S. oil assets, hand back more money to shareholders and scrap dual listings in London and Sydney to consolidate them in the UK. This would've been a logical move to increase BHP's market share offshore with the obvious benefits flowing to international and local investors, not to mention in the least the Oz economy.

Elliott as I understand it then sent representatives to Australia that week to convince BHP Billiton shareholders to consider its proposals. Those shareholders, as reported by reliable sources, said they didn't expect the Oz government's opposition to deter Elliott from at least pursuing an oil spin-off and bigger returns to shareholders, given it has persisted even after BHP said the plans would not benefit investors - which is inaccurate if one knows the machinations of international brokerage and the benefits to the All Ordinaries stock market indices down there. But the present Oz Treasurer isn't entirely to blame - BHP "acquisition" limitations has its roots back at the turn of the century with another Liberal Party member(FFS!) called Peter Costello. (after LP Treasurer Morrison's threat I lost all interest in snapping up any further shares in BHP-B on the cheap. I mean what's the point?)

So yes, even short-sighted right wing Oz governments can mess up opportunities, let alone its squawking menagerie of greenie and socialist lunatics, that could potentially assist in an Oz recovery using plain business and economic sense. Under Singer's... or I should say Elliot's corporate proposals to be precise...it would've been a win-win situation for all in this humble investor's opinion.

So as you say Ben, though I employ a differing yet strikingly akin peripheral rationale, it certainly is a bloody BIG if.

That's all I'll say about that.

[Sisemen]

“About 80% of NZ power is from renewable sources”

Do you think that we should let Hilly know that:

a. This thread is called War in AUSTRALIA

b. The discussion is about energy in AUSTRALIA

Enzed is that delightful green and hilly offshore island and nothing to do with AUSTRALIA - as they are fond of telling us

[John Hill]

I told ya sonny, if you are having power issues just bring a lead over here and we might be able to spare you some 80% pure green, but you would have to ask nicely.

[Slasher]

Actually Sise is NZ worth invading? I don't think it has any defense force to speak of. It's been ripe for the picking for quite a while so why not?

Then rename both islands collectively as the Eastern Provinces of Australia. I for one wouldn't mind being dictatorial Commissar of the North Island overseeing the locals there as slaves in their beef industries (as well as nicking Mr Hill's glider). The buggers do grow damn good bloody steaks there you know. I'd ship the meat to the Oz Motherland for cheap consumption and consign the locals to eat...I dunno...lamb chops?

I'd also by decree open up compulsory language schools to teach said slaves that no, Australians don't speak Mexican and that sh!t is pronounced "sh!t" not "shut", sex is not "sux", the number six is also not "sux", sixty six clicketty click in bingo is not "suxty sux cluckety cluck", sick is not "suck" and tits are definitely not "tuts".

My spacious palace will be built by slave labour somewhere along the Wanganui. I quite liked it there. Any underground Resistence members caught will be sent to Invercargill for 10 year stretches by cattle train where they'll build lecky generating stations in the snow. Jacinta will be sent to Saudi Arabia for a couple of years to peg her down a notch or ten.

Hmm...I think I might drag a Dak over the Tasman and bomb out of existence any defenses they may have. Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes.