Coronabollocks..

[G-CPTN]

Greta Thunberg

[CremeEgg]

More publicity?

[Pontius Navigator]

Angela Merkel hasn't

[tango15]

This will be the same Greta Thunberg who has been doing a whistle-stop tour of the planet recently?

Edited to add that you're not a celeb currently, unless you 'think' you might have it.

[Pontius Navigator]

Deaths in UK at 87 not far short of the ton. Shocking.

OTOH only 1,370 die of all causes.

[G-CPTN]

Dementia is now the No1 'cause' of death in the UK. Some 70,366 people died from Alzheimer's disease and dementia in 2015 compared to around 66,076 deaths from heart disease.
There were 616,014 deaths registered in the UK in 2018, and 3,248 deaths registered to children aged under five years in the UK in 2018.
From 2011 onwards the death rate creeped up slightly and in the most recent year of 2018,reached 9.3 per 1000,

[Capetonian]

20 years ago 'dementia' and Alzheimers were known as old age.
In those days, old age was the principal cause of death. All they've done is given it a couple of different names.

[G-CPTN]

20 years ago 'dementia' and Alzheimers were known as old age.
In those days, old age was the principal cause of death. All they've done is given it a couple of different names.

Plus more people are reaching higher ages as other diseases are being successfully treated.

There are around 165,000 cancer deaths in the UK every year, that's around 450 every day (2015-2017).
Cancer accounts for more than a quarter (28%) of all deaths in the UK (2017). In females in the UK, there were around 77,700 cancer deaths in 2017.

[G-CPTN]

Somewhat critical of el Presidente.

[AtomKraft]

So 422 people have checked out early with Corona.
Sounds bad, but I suspect more than 422 would have checked out anyway due to various respiratory related illnesses, as happens every single year.
Why don't we hear from the Greens? They drone on endlessly about how we should live a less industrialised life, more in touch with nature.
But when nature bites us in the ass, we've to ruin ourselves as we fight against that same Mother Nature?

If Coronabollocks virus was allowed to run, it might bother a similar percentage to those who got the Spanish flu- was it about 30%? ( I checked, roughly 2/3 of people did not get infected, despite zero control of the Spanish bug)
Spanish flu was free to roam, but still most folk didn't get it.
If we all had exposure to the Coronabollocks virus, maybe those who survived would gain some immunity for next time?

We cannot escape from Nature. It has a way of working.

We should embrace it.

[TheGreenGoblin]

Atom, you have clearly spent too much time in the East and have succumbed to the fatalism of some of the religious sects that make bad curry there.

Ca sera sera is one approach to modern medicine and epidemiology but is not one I subscribe to. The 1918/19 flu epidemics (there were two waves) killed over 50 million people, almost twice as many people as were killed in World War 1 itself. Modern epidemic containment methods would have saved millions of people had they been known about at that time. Surely you can't be suggesting that we should let millions of people die needlessly today for the want of containment and the use of modern methods.

I put it to you that your missile is misguided on this one!

[AtomKraft]

Gobbers.
Yes, I know it sounds harsh.
I'm not fatalistic at all, just saying that Nature has a part to play, as do we.
One of us will prevail, and my money's on Nature.

[barkingmad]

Ca sera sera = California sera sera? Que sera sera refers to the song of the same name.

C’mon G G, if you programmed your own missiles with such erroneous co-ordinates they’d reap a harvest of collateral damage but not achieve the task?

I claim the prize for pedant of the week. Day # X of solitary isolation is having unusual effects on what’s left of my brain........

[Pontius Navigator]

TGG, mixed messages really. You are right about SF particularly as the difference was the lack of mobility then compared with now. The masses did not travel. For most the week was work Monday to Saturday noon, the match, Sunday church, Monday . . . and two weeks at Skeg at best.

Doing Ancestral research shows how little gene spreading existed even to the 70s and beyond.

But AK is also right if you look at the figures I quoted above.

[Pontius Navigator]

So much for GDPR, I have just received yet another 'we're open, business as usual' message from a company that I have never heard of with no clue as to their product except storage solutions to industry. It is as if they are trawling old databases, or even swapping emails as undercover advertising. Pillocks.

[TheGreenGoblin]

Ca Que sera sera = California sera sera? Que sera sera refers to the song of the same name.

C’mon G G, if you programmed your own missiles with such erroneous co-ordinates they’d reap a harvest of collateral damage but not achieve the task?

I claim the prize for pedant of the week. Day # X of solitary isolation is having unusual effects on what’s left of my brain........

[ian16th]

Ah! Doris Kappelhoff, one of the last of the Big Band singers.

Served her time with Bob Crosby and Les Brown.

Became an acceptable actress, culminating with 'Love Me, or Leave Me'!

[TheGreenGoblin]

Gobbers.
Yes, I know it sounds harsh.
I'm not fatalistic at all, just saying that Nature has a part to play, as do we.
One of us will prevail, and my money's on Nature.

The grave yawns wider by the day for all of us Atom, tis true!

Completely irrelevantly - My favourite fatalistic aviation anecdote was one told to me by an old girlfriend who was travelling on a Chinese airline back in the 1980's and noted that the stewardesses didn't ensure that the passengers had put on their seat belts. She asked one of the Chinese ladies about this omission and the response was "we crash, you die!"

[ian16th]

[Jetex Jim]

I'm not fatalistic at all, just saying that Nature has a part to play, as do we.
One of us will prevail, and my money's on Nature.

It's fascinating. There's always a mindset that is comforted by the 'motion to do nothing.'

And then there's those who prefer to be proactive.