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#2701 Post by AtomKraft » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:35 pm

I'm amazed and appalled at the supine attitude of the British. Truly a nation of sheeple.

This morning's radio 4 was droning on about some event where the Wales/ England border seperated the toilets from those intending to use them as 'the rules are different in England and Wales'.

What utter pussies.

First point is that folk seem to have handed over responsibilty for what they do, to the government. Why? These idiots will cut you loose immediately if things go wrong- especially if it's their fault, so why listen?

Also, it seems to me that Government have forgotten what they are there for. Btw, you are there to do the boring stuff while we live our lives.* Not live your lives while making ours poorer and even more boring!

Fugg, I;m glad im no longer living among you drooling, rule-enslaved hamsters.

* read 'Republic' by Plato for a rough guide on how it is meant to be.

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#2702 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:56 pm

AtomKraft wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:35 pm
I'm amazed and appalled at the supine attitude of the British. Truly a nation of sheeple.

Fugg, I;m glad im no longer living among you drooling, rule-enslaved hamsters.

* read 'Republic' by Plato for a rough guide on how it is meant to be.


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You are right in the sense that most politicians are self serving dolts and the lot we have here in the UK are an egregious example of this caste of political untermenschen...
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#2703 Post by ian16th » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:23 pm

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I don't recall the details, but it was legal in the UK to buy carpets on a Sunday as long as you also bought potatoes.
The carpets were given away, if you paid a daft price for a potato or a carrot!
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#2704 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:07 pm

ian16th wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:23 pm
G-CPTN wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:21 pm
I don't recall the details, but it was legal in the UK to buy carpets on a Sunday as long as you also bought potatoes.
The carpets were given away, if you paid a daft price for a potato or a carrot!
It was illegal to buy toilet paper in the Transvaal on a Sunday at one time and while it was illegal to go fishing on a Sunday in the Orange Free State it wasn't in the Transvaal so all the fishermen would cross the Vaal river. I could go on and on with such politically and religiously inspired drivel, some of it tragically cruel and stupid...

History repeating itself...

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#2705 Post by G-CPTN » Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:19 pm

You couldn't buy a bible on a Sunday, but you could by a girlie magazine.

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#2706 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:03 pm

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#2707 Post by Woody » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:39 pm

Border patrol Wales =))

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#2708 Post by ian16th » Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:36 pm

Cynicism improves with age

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#2709 Post by OFSO » Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:18 pm

Mandatory contact data from bars and restaurants isn't being used: Figures for 22,500 venues and at least 268 million customer visits suggest just 104 cases have been pursued since summer (Guardian, today).

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#2710 Post by Undried Plum » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:11 pm

It bloody well is being used by the marketing companies to whom the data is being sold!

Harvesting and selling that data prolly makes more profit than the froth on a pint of best bitter!!

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#2711 Post by PHXPhlyer » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:47 pm

More infestation in The White House! ~X(
VP Pence's chief of staff as well as four or more staffers are affected. :YMAPPLAUSE:
Instead of quarantining as CDC recommends, Pence is out campaigning. :-q White House justifies this by saying Pence is "essential personnel" thus he can be a super spreader. [-X
What a bunch of total wankers! L-)

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#2712 Post by BenThere » Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:18 pm

What a bunch of total wankers!


Maybe, but for now they're at the pinnacle of the US government. Election day tells the tale.

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#2713 Post by Boac » Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:25 pm

When is Trump rolling out the Corona treatment he had to all infected Americans?

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#2714 Post by OFSO » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:58 am

The idiots we voted in to rule us...... I'm sorry, I'll start again. The wise and accomplished leaders of European countries are currently engaged in a competition to see who can get nearest to forcing a lockdown on its citizens without calling it a lockdown. Currently Spain leading followed by France, I think.

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#2715 Post by barkingmad » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:22 am

Here is part of an interview with a track-and-tracer who works for one of Serco’s sub-contractors. She’s a Tier 3 tracer (nothing to do with lockdown ‘Tiers’), which means her job is to call people who’ve been named as contacts by confirmed cases and advise them to self-isolate for 14 days.

“For instance, she said that if a contact of a confirmed case lives alone, they’re not allowed to receive visitors, presumably because of the risk that the visitor could catch Covid from them if they’ve been unlucky enough to catch it. But if they live in a household of, say, six, the other five members of the household are allowed to come and go as they please. She recounted having to tell one elderly woman who lived alone that daily visits from her grandchild on his way home from school would have to cease, even though if they lived in the same household they could spend as much time together as they liked. “There’s no rhyme or reason to it,” she said. “It might as well have been designed by Lewis Carroll.”

Mainly I am struck by how patently fine everyone with the virus is. I call it the ‘Covid-cold’ because it really isn’t much worse than that for the majority of people. Some old people are still hit fairly hard but even they aren’t ending up in hospital. Is it worth f**king the economy and forcing people to stay indoors for two weeks to effectively try and stop the spread of a relatively mild flu-like illness? Let’s all crack on and get some herd immunity going!”

Alice-in-Wonderland indeed, as was this morning’s duty Radio4 interview with Handycock which elicited NO information apart from the startling admission “We don’t know”!

Further evidence that the inmates are running the asylum, with complete access to and control of, the pharmacy;

There was a terrific piece on Spectator‘s Coffee House blog yesterday by Carl Heneghan and Tom Jefferson entitled “The ten worst Covid data failures“. Here are the first three:

“1) Overstating of the number of people who are going to die

This starts with the now-infamous Imperial College London (ICL) ‘Report 9’ that modelled 500,000 deaths if no action was taken at all, and 250,000 deaths if restrictions were not tightened. This set the train of lockdown restrictions in motion. Some argue that Imperial’s modelling may have come true had it not been for lockdown. But this does not explain Sweden. Academics there said its assumptions would mean 85,000 deaths if Sweden did not lock down. It did not – and deaths are just under 6,000.

2) Leaked SAGE papers

Next came a print paper written by SAGE members to support a two-week ‘circuit breaker’, leaked to the press. The reports were striking.

“With no social distancing measures in place from now until January, the virus could potentially spiral out of control and kill 217,000 people, hospitalise 316,000 and infect 20.7 million. But with a strict two-week lockdown the number of deaths could be reduced by 100,000, admissions by 139,000 and infections by six million.”

Understandably, this made headlines. But when the lead author was interviewed by the BBC, he said that he wished he “hadn’t put these numbers in the study” because it was an extreme scenario only included “for illustration”.

3) Miscategorisation of ‘Covid death’

Under the original system, someone run over by a bus would be counted as a ‘Covid death’ if he or she had tested positive for Covid but later recovered. When this anomaly was pointed out by the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, it turned out even the Health Secretary was unaware what the Covid death data referred to. He ordered an immediate inquiry. This illustrates how poor-quality data from Public Health England was misleading the Government itself. A new system was eventually set up: counting deaths within 28 days of a positive COVID-19 test. This removed 4,149 deaths from the July 15th death count.”

Looking at the forecast of dead bodies littering the streets I detect the dead hand of one Professor Legover Pantsdown! :-w

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#2716 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:37 am

Undried Plum wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:11 pm
It bloody well is being used by the marketing companies to whom the data is being sold!

Harvesting and selling that data prolly makes more profit than the froth on a pint of best bitter!!
My better half's best friend in Welsh Wales has been laid low by the virus, she is not at all well, one week in bed and too fatigued and too ill to even do her makeup, let alone take a walk and she is being plagued by telephone calls from various dubious sources since she contacted the track and trace people! Co-incidence, or dubious data sharing...? :-?
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#2717 Post by barkingmad » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:47 am

“According to the i, the Government has drawn up plans for additional restrictions if its three-tier traffic light system hasn’t made a difference by November.

Discussions are underway in Whitehall and local authorities for a Plan B to tackle the second wave of COVID-19 if the three-tier system in England has not made a difference by mid-November, it has emerged

Options being discussed include dialling up the already tough tier three restrictions to “tier three-plus” or tier four, as well as the possibility of short-term local circuit breaker lockdowns to bring the R value of transmission below 1.

Boris Johnson made clear in his latest Downing Street press conference on Thursday that he was wedded to the local and regional approach and that a full lockdown “from John O’Groats to Land’s End” was not an option, due to the impact on the economy, society and mental health – particularly in areas with low levels of infection.

But there is concern that the top tier three of restrictions, now in place in several regions of England, will not be enough to bring R below 1 before Christmas.
Good luck selling that to the British people, Boris. As Dan Hodges tweeted yesterday, “If Tier 1, Tier 2 and Tier 3 lockdowns don’t do the trick a Tier 4 lockdown is bound to work isn’t it. Makes perfect sense…”

If both the great mass of peasants and police chiefs are unable to fathom the many facets of the various Tiers, currently only 3 in England, how will the folk in the street cope with yet one more layer? Presumably this extra level is being introduced to compete with Wee Krankie’s new 5 levels of restriction?

It is already being acknowledged in MSM that most folk are likely to discreetly ignore the tie downs and will proceed to celebrate Christmas, probably by claiming the turkey feast is in fact a funeral and therefore up to 30 are permitted to gather indoors!

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#2718 Post by Boac » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:51 am

Only two more simple steps for simple BoJo to follow the Scottish system.

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#2719 Post by Pontius Navigator » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:55 am

Whatever, but our case numbers are far less than our European neighbours.

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#2720 Post by Undried Plum » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:55 am

Not at all mere happenstance. It's extremely common and is a very clear indicator of the commercialisation of both the T&T data and that of the 'app'.

I suppose you could say that it's just what Apple and Microsoft and Google and Faecebook and Amazon have been doing for years, but to me it smells of the Tory commercialisation of the NHS. Bastards!

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