Coronabollocks..

[OFSO]

Cousin T in Islington told us this just now: a friend woke up, two weeks ago, with a persistent dry cough and she 'thought' she had a temperature. She got on line and ordered a Government CV test. By the time the test arrived in the post the cough and possible fever was a thing of the past, she felt fine, so she didn't bother doing the test. Three days later she received notification she'd tested positive. As she said, quite amazing how these tests work, as it's still in the kitchen drawer, unused, where she slung it.
Multiply that incident by a hundred or a thousand times.......

[Pontius Navigator]

Next bollocks will be the vaccine queue.

Belgium is producing
100m doses. UK is going to get 40m. It will be a two shot process, so 20m people may get it by Christmas. Which 20m?

Obviously all NHS and other essential front line staff will get it. All under 16s probably won't get it. A large number of the selected ones will refuse. Will the susceptible student population get it so they can carry on partying? Or will the vulnerable get it first?

I wonder if the Goons have even started to think that through.

[Bob]

Might I suggest the true goons ae those who will refuse the vaccine along with all the self deluded fools getting antsy about not being able to visit their favourite posh restaurant and spouting invented conjecture about testing with zero facts or evidence but simply because the figurative "bloke down the pub" told em

What makes you believe anyone will get a vaccine by Christmas?

p.s. Spain approaching a million cases...all fake of course

[OFSO]

A million positive tests, not 'cases'. The odd thing is that talking to doctors, (today) physiotherapists (yesterday) and clinic staff, (two weeks ago) everyone knows the statistics but nobody knows or is treating anyone actually suffering from Covid. Despite that, lockdown (under another name) looms on the horizon.....

[barkingmad]

WHAT ON EARTH ARE THEY UP TO? ? ? !

“Deputy Chief Medical Officer Jonathan Van Tamm – or JVT, as Boris insisted on calling him – produced a series of charts appearing to show that, in his own words: “Pretty much everywhere in England is now heating up to some extent.”

But his slide deck told a different story.

For instance, the slide illustrating the geographical spread of positive cases (wrongly described as the spread of “COVID-19”) showed the rate of infection falling in many parts of the country.

Van Tamm made much of the fact that hospitals were admitting more and more Covid patients, particularly in the North West...

But what this chart doesn’t show – and which no journalist asked about, unfortunately – is that Covid admissions in the North West are no higher than admissions would be for other respiratory illnesses in a normal year. Yes, Covid admissions are up, but admissions for pneumonia are down. Indeed, hospital admissions for all respiratory illnesses in the North West were about half the five-year average at the end of September. What looks to be happening is that elderly patients who would normally be admitted for flu and pneumonia are being admitted for COVID-19 instead. Which means that hospitals in the North West are nowhere close to being overwhelmed. If that’s the rationale for placing Greater Manchester in Tier 3 – protect the NHS – it doesn’t stack up.

The feebleness of this justification for the local lockdown was exposed by Jennifer Williams in the Manchester Evening News, who tried – and failed – to obtain the figures. The paper sent an identical list of questions to all the key players in Greater Manchester’s healthcare system, wanting to know trust-by-trust Covid admissions numbers as a proportion of overall capacity, compared to the April peak, and the same figures broken down for intensive care and high dependency beds, plus ventilator beds, including non-invasive ventilation. And it asked for equivalent bed occupancy figures for this time last year, so it could compare them with the start of a normal winter.

Clearly, the reason the data is being withheld is because it shows Greater Manchester’s hospitals are very far from being overwhelmed by Covid patients.

Which begs the question, why are the people of Greater Manchester being needlessly punished in this way?“

Is it that BoJo & Co have finally realised they’ve f*cked this up bigtime but must keep running with the script?

What is worse, deaths and long term illness from Covid-1984, or the still to be appreciated collateral damage due to delays in ‘routine’ illness diagnosis and treatment, depression and suicides and the economic meltdown?

Edited to add: Is it official (BoJo said so) that Britain is now suffering from JVT, a previously unknown disease?

[Bob]

A million positive tests, not 'cases'. The odd thing is that talking to doctors, (today) physiotherapists (yesterday) and clinic staff, (two weeks ago) everyone knows the statistics but nobody knows or is treating anyone actually suffering from Covid. Despite that, lockdown (under another name) looms on the horizon.....

How do you expect them to measure cases if not by positive tests?,...by listening to you perhaps?

You do realise that the percentage of asymptomatic cases of this disease where people have no reason to go get tested is very large? and that means the actual number of cases is going to be higher than shown from testing.

I





Spain
Coronavirus Cases:
1,029,668
Deaths:
34,210
Recovered:
N/A

[barkingmad]

A subtle change in one MSM meeja source this evening as the UK Channel 4 reports on umpteen new Covid ‘infections’ as opposed to new ‘cases’.

Does the word ‘infection’ sound more awesome than ‘case’ as MSM attempt to scare the pants off us with more tabloid-style language and reporting to keep up the fear levels in Project Fear Mk2?

[OFSO]

It is, Bob, quite simple. Do you base what you believe on your own relationship with your community, or on what the media tells you? Do you surrender your critical facilities to media representatives, or talk yourself to members of the medical profession in your area...... The choice is mine, yours, everyones.

[barkingmad]

Another helping of madness, madam and sir?

“The Metropolitan Police have told pub landlords to ask for names, addresses and photo IDs of customers before serving them to ensure people from different households aren’t mixing.

Scotland Yard has been writing to struggling traders in London to say they should ask for names, addresses and even photo ID.

Officers said the procedures would stop households mixing – in keeping with Tier Two curbs introduced last weekend.

However business chiefs said this placed “completely unacceptable” demands on staff and would cost venues bookings if customers could not prove they were following the COVID-19 restrictions.

The Night Time Industries Association has taken legal advice over the “unlawful and misleading advice”.

Police forces around the country are checking on Facebook and other social media sites to see whether landlords are letting customers flout social distancing rules.
This new development follows the news that Sadiq Khan wants the 10pm curfew lifted in London to help struggling publicans and restaurateurs. According to the Evening Standard:

Mayor of London Sadiq Khan has called for the 10pm curfew to be scrapped now the capital is under Tier 2 coronavirus restrictions.

Mr Khan said allowing restaurants to remain open beyond 10pm would support businesses by allowing them to increase bookings even with indoor mixing of households banned.

His intervention comes after leading West End bar and restaurant operators warned they will not survive the winter after the “horrendous” first weekend of the new Tier 2 clampdown triggered tens of thousands of cancellations.
But hang on. Didn’t Sadiq Khan insist on putting London in a Tier 2 lockdown? And if he’s so worried about people staying away from pubs, why’s he asking the Metropolitan Police to enforce the “no mixing” rule?”

The nickname “Genghis” for Mr Khan seems appropriate?

[4mastacker]

Aren't university students meant to be intelligent?

Just a couple of weeks after one of their number got a £10k fine for breaking Covid rules, another four do exactly the same thing. Must be something in the waters of the Trent.

When will they ever learn?

[OFSO]

The OFSOs have spent over half the year in a large city, London, and the last few months in a small Spanish town. From media reports, one would think that (a) we should know someone from our large circle of friends and family who contracted Covid, and (b) of these, some would have been in hospital and some would have died. The reality is (a) is true; we know who gave us Covid and to whom we passed it, and we know family and friends who contracted it. As far as (b) is concerned we know of only one positive-tested person who was hospitalised, and that for 24 hours: we know of no deaths. I also know of no Covid-related deaths in my international pensioners association and no deaths in my former staff members association.

On the other hand, this year we have lost friends and family members through non-Covid deaths, and nearly all were due to cancer, the most recent being this morning.

Of course, in the minds of our Covid-obsessed politicians these deaths count for nothing.

[k3k3]

People say the restrictions in the UK are confusing, take a look at the chaos that is Hamburg, masks required on some streets, on various days, at different times, one of the restrictions is outside a number of houses but beyond them everything is ok.

Official: https://www.hamburg.de/coronavirus/aktu ... -plaetzen/

Satire: https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpol ... 59f7befcd6

[TheGreenGoblin]

Middle aged buggers and long Covid...

[Ibbie]

Been up to daughter's bar. She has had two customers all morning. It is in a tourist area, but there are no tourists from the UK because of the stupid quarantine rule on returning to the UK, which the loonies in power refuse to reduce, or accept airport tests based on another finger in the air judgement made weeks ago, which has proved false.The same rule which has cost the aviation industry dear.
Many expat owned bars are shut, a lot for sale. Owners businesses ruined by the UK Government. No hand outs for them from the root cause of the problem, the unfit for purpose UK Government, unlike hospitality units at home.

You can understand why revolutions against governments happened in the past..........just saying.

[OFSO]

Heard two bar owners in Roses saying they can just about last out one more week and then, if lock down continues, will not reopen. A third bar owned by two brothers who were considering retiring next year, has closed already for good. My informant said nobody wants to discuss the suicide rate.

[barkingmad]

Cousin T in Islington told us this just now: a friend woke up, two weeks ago, with a persistent dry cough and she 'thought' she had a temperature. She got on line and ordered a Government CV test. By the time the test arrived in the post the cough and possible fever was a thing of the past, she felt fine, so she didn't bother doing the test. Three days later she received notification she'd tested positive. As she said, quite amazing how these tests work, as it's still in the kitchen drawer, unused, where she slung it.
Multiply that incident by a hundred or a thousand times.......

And now one further account of smart accounting by HMG, so what REALLY is the endgame?

Someone once said “The first casualty of war is truth”, so if we’re in a “war” to “defeat” the ‘lergy, is it any wonder we’re being fed BS?

[barkingmad]

It appears that there may be a pandemic breaking out amongst the peasants? More evidence of the presence of Branch Covidians out there who disbelieve and mistrust the ‘guvvments’ messages as the UK sinks lower into a fiscal disaster from which it will take decades to recover;



For how much longer will the Hokey Cokey of lockdown,then no lockdown, persist before THEY realise it ain’t working?

[Bob]

You lot need to wake the **** up, This Winter is going to be a horror show for Health workers all over the west

[ian16th]

Just like Calvanistic SA when you couldn't buy a tin of peas on a Saturday afternoon, or Sunday, but you could buy fresh ones!

You could also buy fresh fish, but not a tin of sardines!

[G-CPTN]

I don't recall the details, but it was legal in the UK to buy carpets on a Sunday as long as you also bought potatoes.