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#4141 Post by PHXPhlyer » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:07 pm

Boing:
Agree
With powerful computers available, the reaction/ affects of the virus should be compared across as many variables as can be identified down to the genomic level to possibly find a common denominator.
The US is far behind in sequencing the virus mutations as well.
They must attack the problem on multiple fronts and aggregate as much data as can be had.
All of this, plus careful analysis of antibody residual times from the various vaccines compared to virus mutations is also critical to the effort.

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#4142 Post by boing » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:35 am

Presently in the US we are seeing a reduction in Covid cases, is this "real" or is it a result of reducing the number of cycles in the PCR test early in January thus reducing the number of false positives?

Amazingly, no one is commenting on this, you would have thought that some serious researchers would have an opinion. Appreciate this, the number of cycles in the PCR test was reduced on the advice of the WHO because they finally realised that there were too many false positives yet nobody I have heard has acknowledged the the reduction of PCR cycles could be a factor in the present decline of infections. Are these people dim or are they simply staying with the government script?

Now, hospital admissions for Covid are presently reduced, possibly because of a reduction in the number of people who are not being hospitalised due to false positive results. This can only be good because reports show that 20% of all Covid cases are actually caught in the medical system. Could it be that we are seeing a reduction in false positive cases leading to a reduction in the number of real Covid cases because less people are being fed into the medical system to become infected? Who knows without data but it would appear that a 20% reduction in Covid cases could be made by simply not sending people to hospital. Of course, this is not totally practical on a case to case basis but it is an interesting thought..


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#4143 Post by Mrs Ex-Ascot » Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:07 am

This comment makes sense to me; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... Covid.html. Now all we need to do is vaccinate the whole World by Christmas. :D
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#4144 Post by Boac » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:03 am

boing wrote:Amazingly, no one is commenting on this,
John Campbell covered this ?on Friday? in his video. The CDC 'reduction in cases' graph exactly matches the 'testing graph'.

Who knows?? You are correct about the lack of virus sequencing in the US. One major US research group is expecting a significant jump in cases March/April in the US.

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#4145 Post by Pontius Navigator » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:46 am

Boing, in UK hospital infection was said to be 40%. I think it unlikely that a person with a false positive alone would be admitted to hospital unless that is a consequence of private medical care.

Best tracking rates are perhaps admissions and deaths though even these are now emerging as subjective.

Last night we were shown two quite different death totals, one declared though the regular reporting and the second the ONS figures where Covid was on the death certificate.

As I say, the statisticians will have an field day and we will need to consider their allegiance when they reach a conclusion.

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#4146 Post by OFSO » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:14 am

Report yesterday that in contrast to an average UK infection rate of 7% (and London is well below the average) the Stamford Hill Jewish community has one of the highest infection rates in the world at 75%. Reason is a general belief that the Covid restrictions on the public (masks, distancing) are against God's will.

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#4147 Post by Boac » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:41 pm

More need for that camp I proposed.

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#4148 Post by Pontius Navigator » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:45 am

WTF, BoJo has secret meeting with 3 others over Covid strategy, 50 page scripts retained after meeting to contain leaks. Media publishes outline.

Cabinet meeting today to approve before Parliament brief this afternoon. Telegraph appears to publish details this morning.

Why bother with a public briefing this evening?

My plan, brief Matt before meeting with a juicy tit bit. Call Michael back after meeting and drop a different gem.

Sit back and wait. If it does not appear in the news it's the third man. Simples.

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#4149 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:19 am

This is the calibre of the idiots "running" the show in this country....



We are now in officially in an Orwellian world. We are expected to believe that 8 March is both 2 weeks from now AND 3 weeks after mid April.
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#4150 Post by Pontius Navigator » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:14 am

TGG, unbelievable. I can't believe he actually said that.

"What the major really meant to say..."

I can't find the original source.

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#4151 Post by G-CPTN » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:02 pm

Beware the Ides of March.

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#4152 Post by Boac » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:05 pm

A lot of fuss about nothing. The poor guy simply mis-spoke. All with half a brain can get that


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His main error which has not been commented here was to tie the opening of schools to the vax of the over-50s.

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#4153 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:18 pm

Boac wrote:
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A lot of fuss about nothing. The poor guy simply mis-spoke. All with half a brain can get that


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His main error which has not been commented here was to tie the opening of schools to the vax of the over-50s.
"Mispoke", what is that? The inability to speak? Inability to speak coherently? A lie? What?

These people should be on top of their game. If they can't perform and stay ahead of aircraft they should get out of the seat! There are so many serial idiots in the government that they don't deserve the benefit of doubt!
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#4154 Post by Boac » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:24 pm

What - you mean like BoJo? He who is proclaiming that his 'roadmap' is to be 'irreversible'. That's going to make the probable 'reversal' a touch embarrassing.

No, it is not a 'lie'. The question is why did the confusion arise with the over-50s vax and schools. There is more behind this than even the media know - shock/horror. I suspect some 'dissent' in Cabinet. All (may) become clear after BoJo speaks today, although on past performance I think that would be unlikely...................

Fastening excitedly on a mis-speak is missing the big grey thing in the room.

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#4155 Post by TheGreenGoblin » Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:47 pm

Boac wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:24 pm
What - you mean like BoJo? He who is proclaiming that his 'roadmap' is to be 'irreversible'. That's going to make the probable 'reversal' a touch embarrassing.

No, it is not a 'lie'. The question is why did the confusion arise with the over-50s vax and schools. There is more behind this than even the media know - shock/horror. I suspect some 'dissent' in Cabinet. All (may) become clear after BoJo speaks today, although on past performance I think that would be unlikely...................

Fastening excitedly on a mis-speak is missing the big grey thing in the room

Maybe that is what these people hope will happen when they cast sundry distractions in our direction! ;)))

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#4156 Post by G-CPTN » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:38 pm

With extramarital sex being off the menu (due to Covid), will there be a reduction in births during this period?

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#4157 Post by Pontius Navigator » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:44 pm

G CPTN, or an increase in siblings related to each other 😁

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#4158 Post by Woody » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:54 pm

G-CPTN wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:38 pm
With extramarital sex being off the menu (due to Covid), will there be a reduction in births during this period?
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#4159 Post by Pinky the pilot » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:06 am

Beware the Ides of March.
I told him, 'Julie, Don't go! It's the Ides of March; beware already...'
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#4160 Post by Pontius Navigator » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:35 am

Pinky the pilot wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:06 am
Beware the Ides of March.
I told him, 'Julie, Don't go! It's the Ides of March; beware already...'
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