Coronabollocks..

[Boac]

PN -

once possibly explained?

Mrs Ex-A - indeed, the trials ARE continuing, but I was questioning the accuracy of your Daily Wail writer who told us
"We know from the trials that the Oxford vaccine is safe."

We do NOT yet know.

[TheGreenGoblin]

Drove to Epping tube station on Saturday and caught the tube (for the first time in 5 months) into London to South Kensington to visit the V&A. I wore a mask but the whole carriage was crowded with protesters from up North en route to the big protest in Trafalgar Square that later turned violent, none of whom were wearing masks and who made a point of sitting next to each other and being tactile with each other. I noticed they left a space between themselves and me mind. Despite my mask, my glowering scowl wasn't accommodating and I wasn't in the mood for any of their crap.

The world is full of ignorant dingbats... while I respect their right to protest I don't respect their right to potentially infect people on public transport. Stupidity abounds...

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[Mrs Ex-Ascot]

PN -

once possibly explained?

Mrs Ex-A - indeed, the trials ARE continuing, but I was questioning the accuracy of your Daily Wail writer who told us
"We know from the trials that the Oxford vaccine is safe."

We do NOT yet know.

Apologies, I miss-understood your question.

I see your point, but I believe that any new drug has to go through several stages of testing before human trials can start to ensure that it is safe to do so. But no one can be certain of how a drug will behave in humans until you perform very controlled human trials. I believe that in this context what she said in the article is true, especially as they are I believe in stage 3 of the process.

[Boac]

Well, no medical expert, but I would have thought 3 stages meant 3 stages?

[barkingmad]

Re: Care Minister Helen Whately, with not a lot to do, I heard her on the Saturday repeat of the Any Questions radio show.

Stumbling and verbally inarticulate, she mentioned her son had been sent home from school with a temperature (only) and she'd got him tested for the plague, the result of which was a negative. But then she is a Cabinet Minister and presumably pulled strings to achieve an early result?

No mention of a persistent dry cough plus sudden loss of sense of smell & taste and now the NHS website says only ONE of these symptoms is necessary to indicate the presence of the 'lergy.

So as we head into British winter expect the country to grind to a halt with all the usual colds and 'flu symptoms being confused with the 'real' thing.

The only positive sign of it being 'routine' winter bug is Runny Nose, SNOT Covid ! ! ! ! !

But our Parliamentarians are all being looked after and their bars don't have to shut at 10pm, despite the so-called LAW dictating otherwise to the peasants!

Prepare for even more madness of the crowds.

[ian16th]

But our Parliamentarians are all being looked after and their bars don't have to shut at 10pm, despite the so-called LAW dictating otherwise to the peasants!

Is this a case of:

The peasants are revolting because that have no beer.

Let them drink brandy!

[barkingmad]

But our Parliamentarians are all being looked after and their bars don't have to shut at 10pm, despite the so-called LAW dictating otherwise to the peasants!

Is this a case of:

The peasants are revolting because that have no beer.

Let them drink brandy!

It used to be Gin for the peasants and IIRC Brandy is a dreadful French concoction, only suitable for mixing with an equal quantity of Baileys Irish Cream to assure a good night's sleep after a long and tiresome flying duty.

The theory is it's just the right ABV% to knock one out but not enough fluid to force a nighttime stumble for a wee.

[barkingmad]

Allegedly there are many hospitals around the UK which are grossly underused and where specialists are twiddling their thumbs awaiting the referrals which dried up as a result of the Covid-1984 pan(dem)ic.

Is this little vignette from way back an unfortunate premonition of the current scene?



Suggestions on the usual postage stamp please as to which of today’s comedy performers in guvvment and medicine would you award which part in the Y M clip?

[Pontius Navigator]

Regarding the Marquee comment, it seems a funeral wake was being held in a Marquee at a hotel in Castle Brom. 200 guests. The police engaged with the mourners who apparently dispersed. The hotel staffer who took the booking has been let go.

[barkingmad]

From the UK Parliament, it SNOT only the peasants who are revolting;

“It still isn’t clear whether the Speaker of the House of Commons will select Sir Graham Brady’s amendment to the Coronavirus Act, which is due to be renewed on Wednesday. But if he does, and Boris refuses to back down, it looks like the Government is facing defeat. Not only has the number of Conservative MPs prepared to vote for it grown from the 43 who originally signed the amendment to 81, according to Katy Balls in the Spectator, but the BBC reports that Labour MPs may join forces with the rebels. If the amendment passes it will mean that no additional Covid restrictions can be imposed by the Government without being approved by Parliament.

The House of Commons debated the coronavirus crisis yesterday and Conservative MPs lined up to urge the Government to allow Parliament to scrutinise and debate any further measures, including ex-Chief Whip Mark Harper and former Cabinet Minister Chris Grayling. But the stand out contribution to the debate was from Sir Desmond Swayne, a long-standing lockdown sceptic. The Daily Record has the details:

Speaking in the Commons, Sir Desmond said: “The purpose of politicians is to impose a measure of proportion, a sense of proportion on science, and not to be enthralled to it.

“Now I will make myself very unpopular, but I believe that the appearance of the chiefs (Chief Medical Officer Prof Chris Whitty and Chief Scientific Adviser Sir Patrick Vallance) last week should have been a sacking offence.”

“When they presented that graph, with the caveat that it wasn’t a prediction, but nevertheless it was clear that they presented it as a plausible scenario, with its 50,000 cases per day by mid-October based on the doubling of infections by the week.

“Not once, not on one day since March, have there been infections on that day that were double that of the day of the week proceeding.

“Not once. Where did this doubling come from? What was their purpose in presenting such a graph?”

And he added: “It was project fear, it was an attempt to terrify the British people, as if they haven’t been terrified enough.”

Sir Desmond said he believed the Government’s policy has been “disproportionate”, adding: “By decree, it has interfered in our private lives, and our family lives, telling us who we may meet, when we may meet them and what we must wear when we meet them.

“We have the cruelty, the cruelty, of elderly people in care homes, disorientated, being unable to see the faces of their loved ones and to receive a hug.”

Sir Desmond isn’t wrong about the shortcomings of Witless and Unbalanced’s graph.

[Ibbie]

When is Boris going to realise that appearing at a press conference/address to the people with Whitty and Vallance as support is not a good idea, as they and their opinions are no longer credible. It does not impress.

[ribrash]

When is Boris going to realise that appearing at a press conference/address to the people with Whitty and Vallance as support is not a good idea, as they and their opinions are no longer credible. It does not impress.

+10

[Ibbie]

It is now quite obvious that the weekend figures for new cases and deaths in the UK were massaged to show reductions and now a big rise in both figures is claimed today after his broadcast was announced, catching up on those cases surpressed from the weekend.......but can you trust the figures at all?

Who does he think he is kidding?

[CremeEgg]

No fan of Govt stats but the weekend figures have always been low with a rise early in the week when peopl eget back to work notifying the data.

[Mrs Ex-Ascot]

Just been perusing Botswana Daily News online, apparently you can download a special app onto your smartphone so that you can whistleblow on anyone being naughty and not sticking to the COVID19 regulations. Surprised that the British government haven't come up with the same idea.

[Ibbie]

Don't give those twonks ideas TS !

[Pontius Navigator]

MrsExA, I wonder.

Now I have the trace App. I put in a false Positive report. People I have been near get a phone call and are required to isolate.

I can get a £1,000 if I file a false report.

Do we really think they have the capacity to correlate every positive report by an individual with every recorded test?

[G-CPTN]

Having adapted to the 'new normal' since lockdown, with no excursions, no volunteering activity, no pointless trips into town and no face-to-face meetings I have adopted a largely recumbent position with frequent naps as deemed necessary and I wonder if I will ever return to my previous pre-Covid normal activity?

[Pontius Navigator]

G CPTN, and the amount of money saved not impulse buying.

We made a special trip to ALDI to buy the essential ingredients for Sloe Gin. The bill came to £83 and included a set of mixing bowls to augment the set bought two weeks prior. I took the opportunity to buy my favourite chocolate caramel biscuits but overall the excess expenditure bill, the EEB, was £70.

[Bob]

Cases in Wales now at april levels and the pubs are still open even in the so called local lockdown areas.
UK is ****