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It’s becoming more obvious that it is an arm of the Chinese Government The whole place should be closed down.

Any reference to back up your assertion?

Yes SOPS, been likely reading the same as you.....the Ethiopian chap that heads the WHO that was parroting the Chinese line recently, is an ETHIOPIAN, and is likey a beneficiary of the 'Belt & road route'...and IS NOT a docteor...of anything

"reading the same " - a secret publication?

Ah no - found it - presumably you are convinced by the right-wing rag Fox news? All apparently based on a self-proclaimed 'expert' on 'foreign affairs'. The White House has one of those too.

Doesn't mean it is not correct, but................. https://www.foxnews.com/world/who-chief ... oronavirus

I don't know about the WHO specifically, but I spent a few days in close proximity to the head offices of the UN in Geneva a few years ago. What struck me was the constant comings and goings of large numbers of gaily attired people around that building, which seemed quite disproportionate. I mentioned it to someone in the British Consulate, who raised their eyes to heaven and said, "It's the same in New York."
From my admittedly random observations, it would seem that those from the Dark Continent are now very numerous in that organisation. I will say no more.

Tedros Adhanom ,the Head of the WHO ,made the statement on 03 Feb that it was not necessary to shut down international travel.

How wrong was he.

He criticised Australia when they banned travel from China. Said there was no need to panic.

Well, but considering people even in the countries that pile up coffins find it impossible to follow the recommendations or regulations - would it have mattered much?

probes wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:13 am

Well, but considering people even in the countries that pile up coffins find it impossible to follow the recommendations or regulations - would it have mattered much?

I think in the future and once the US gets through this that the US will seek to adjust how the WHO operates and also review especially it's voluntary contributions to the organization.

A few more facts.

The USA's voluntary contributions to the WHO for the 2018 year were about $281 million compared to China's whopping $6.3 million and the USA's Assesed contribution for 2020 and 2021 is about $232 million as opposed to China's $114 Million.

The Gates and Bloomberg Foundations further donated about another $100 million to the WHO in 2018.

Makes one wonder why the WHO pander so much to China.

Seenenough wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:29 pm

probes wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:13 am

Well, but considering people even in the countries that pile up coffins find it impossible to follow the recommendations or regulations - would it have mattered much?

I think in the future and once the US gets through this that the US will seek to adjust how the WHO operates and also review especially it's voluntary contributions to the organization.

A few more facts.

The USA's voluntary contributions to the WHO for the 2018 year were about $281 million compared to China's whopping $6.3 million and the USA's Assesed contribution for 2020 and 2021 is about $232 million as opposed to China's $114 Million.

The Gates and Bloomberg Foundations further donated about another $100 million to the WHO in 2018.

Makes one wonder why the WHO pander so much to China.

What world wide scientifically based health monitoring body do you propose the USA support then seenenough?

I don't think that was my point Gob.I think that the pandemic will make the USA reconsider their position both to the UN and the WHO which is a part of the UN.The US has for years been paying more than its fair share to UN also and to many other organizations like NATO.

It is plainly obvious that the WHO were nowhere near able to warn its members as to how contagious the Covid virus is. Indeed ,the WHO was telling leaders it was not necessary to shut down international travel.

Seenenough wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:11 pm

I don't think that was my point Gob.I think that the pandemic will make the USA reconsider their position both to the UN and the WHO which is a part of the UN.The US has for years been paying more than its fair share to UN also and to many other organizations like NATO.

It is plainly obvious that the WHO were nowhere near able to warn its members as to how contagious the Covid virus is. Indeed ,the WHO was telling leaders it was not necessary to shut down international travel.

Well given that the USA government, under Trump, was happy to appear to be advised by the WHO, when it suited his agenda, and then chose to ignore WHO advice and risk thousands of American lives, when the advice was contrary to his personal agenda, it really matters little how the current US government thinks about the WHO which was and still is the only organisation that can act on an international scale! If the US wants to turn itself into an ignorant isolationist ghetto guided by one man's selfish expediency then that is a shame but the rest of the world will continue to take an internationalist course in the face of an international contagion.

Gob-The US shut down travel from China on the 2nd February and the WHO then made the statement on the 3rd of February that it was not necessary to do so.

You should be able to recall that many ,lead by the media, over here held that Trump was a racist because of the ban.

Seenenough wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:14 pm

Gob-The US shut down travel from China on the 2nd February and the WHO then made the statement on the 3rd of February that it was not necessary to do so.

You should be able to recall that many ,lead by the media, over here held that Trump was a racist because of the ban.

I don't know if Trump is a racist or not. I do know he was initially trying to prosecute his trade war against China and that there was strong reason to suspect that he was keen to use the viral outbreak as the basis for that. Given that Trump chose to delay all other serious attempts to counteract the contagion it is, sadly, no wonder that the USA is the crucible of this infection at the moment.

From the outset of Trump's Presidency he has been pointing out that the US in a strategically weak position at it is too dependent on Chinese goods supply.

The pandemic has brought many over here to realize ,although they do not like admitting it ,that he has been correct all along especially in the case of Medical Equipment and Medicine.

Seenenough wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:09 pm

From the outset of Trump's Presidency he has been pointing out that the US in a strategically weak position at it is too dependent on Chinese goods supply.

The pandemic has brought many over here to realize ,although they do not like admitting it ,that he has been correct all along especially in the case of Medical Equipment and Medicine.

Blaming the Chinese is his get out clause for everything. I am no fan of the Chinese but Trump's narrative is bollocks. If he had listened to the CDC earlier on and not financially and intellectually neutered the once world renowned organisation, the US may have had a chance. Now more people are going to die due to his decisions and lack of care.

He was listening to the CDC Gob.He shut flights from China before the WHO recomended he did.

The US appears chronically averse to every international organisation including some they founded themselves.

Seenenough wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:09 pm

From the outset of Trump's Presidency he has been pointing out that the US in a strategically weak position at it is too dependent on Chinese goods supply.

That's one of the few things where I tend to agree with him, not least because invariably when you develop a product in Europe or the US at some expense and then have it made in China, invariably a cheap Chinese copy appears on the market some time later, and sometimes before yours if you're a bit slow at the final stages of production. This includes one competitor to a former employer's product where it had some of the special features of that product. One was bought and stripped down and the give-away was the part number etched into the copper on the PCB on the special feature. They'd filed off all the other stuff but hadn't noticed that one.

I disagree with his approach though. I don't necessarily have a better one but I think his will have unintended consequences.

John Hill wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:34 pm

The US appears chronically averse to every international organisation including some they founded themselves.

The US is averse to any organisation that currently disagrees with the US view on things.