Lockup/ lockdown. How to end it?

[G-CPTN]

Man moves in a mysterious way sometimes.

[Pontius Navigator]

JJ, I know that Government does place articles in the press an d they are quite happy to print. An example, not particularly controversial, the Telegraph has a half page graphic explaining some particular Defence system. The entire article graphic, text and comment were printed verbatim from the article submitted by the Ministry.

[BenThere]

Seems to me that the risk of infection is something I can control myself. I can wear a mask, limit my social distance, discern risky situations, and dealing with all of that, live a fairly normal life, which might include socializing with known acquaintances not infected.

I really resent being told by my governor in Michigan not to be able to visit the home of a friend, or take to the lake on a motorboat, or buy garden seeds during prime seed planting season.

[Pontius Navigator]

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Who’d want to go to the pub with a miserable cow like her

As time goes by I think she looks increasingly attractive.

Four months in Falklands or six in Ascension had the same optical benefits.

[TheGreenGoblin]

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Who’d want to go to the pub with a miserable cow like her

As time goes by I think she looks increasingly attractive.

Four months in Falklands or six in Ascension had the same optical benefits.

She looks very stern, like a headmistress, ooh er missus!

[ian16th]

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Who’d want to go to the pub with a miserable cow like her

As time goes by I think she looks increasingly attractive.

Four months in Falklands or six in Ascension had the same optical benefits.

12 months on Gan was the ultimate punishment.

[AtomKraft]

It's becoming ever clearer that a shitstorm of giant proportions is about to break over the labour market.
Certainly in the U.K., and likely worldwide.

Job vacancies have dropped to levels never seen before.

Two groups are identified which will be hit hardest.
1. Young people who are going to have a very rough start to their careers
2. People around 60 who are going to have a very rough end to their careers, and a very much poorer retirement, earlier than planned.
As a member of one of these groups, I look forward with a degree of trepidation....

[BenThere]

A hard lesson to learn, which I did but much later than I should have, is to save, and save when you're young, in some safe investments like bonds and A or better-rated securities, some a bit speculative, some in real estate, some in gold, and thus spread the risk.

To do that most of us have to sacrifice some gratifications of spending on things we think we can afford, or worse, taking on debt we hope we can manage. The worse thing is facing a monthly nut that requires most of your paycheck, then finding out you're no longer going to get that paycheck.

In the course of my life I've moved from barely making ends meet to having an excess of funds. I never changed my lifestyle much, but tended to put more and more into savings. Along the way I collected pensions. Now my pensions pay the bills and my savings provide a cushion I regard as my financial fortress. I've also kept gold as 10% of that fortress. So far, four years into retirement, it's working according to plan.

My wife, who is younger and will probably live 20 years or so longer than me, is well provided for, she will always have the means to live in a nice home, put food on the table, do things, and not worry financially. And she can do that without depleting the capital that enables it. That condition has been my goal as we don't require any more than I have coming in from the pensions. She lost her income as a hair stylist when her salon was shut down for corona a few months ago. That had a huge impact on people she works with, it playing a major sustaining role in their lifestyle. For us it's a non-event as we have the pensions that keep rolling in, indexed for inflation, dividend income, and no concerns other than our health and the future of the US economy, which could affect us if our pensions are cut.

Recently I acquired a bolt hole in Mexico where I can live our accustomed lifestyle on about half the cost. We spend about half our time there usually, but today travel there from the US is blocked. If the November election goes the wrong way I'm seriously considering making the full-time move, which we can still do. We love it there, have great friends who live there full-time, costs are low, the landscaping and golf course are perfect, and the magnificent beach is at our doorstep. Tulum and Playa del Carmen are world class. If it wasn't for my wife still insisting on working I'd be there already, sipping a fine margarita, my toes in white sand, watching the waves gently lap in, wondering how life could be any better.

[barkingmad]

Here is a contribution from a credible and quietly articulate Prof who may know about what he is talking and presents a sideways look at where and how the UK finds itself up to it’s neck in ordure;



I much prefer to try and absorb information from such as he in preference to the cast of ‘Hancock’s Half-Hour’ and their less than convincing acting abilities...

[Boac]

A very interesting and calm session, most welcome. A lot made sense. The major question the prof left me with is why his 'prediction' in January that it would all 'blow over' was wrong - he said it was because of 'fear', but there is no way that makes sense - 'fear' itself will not spread a virus.

[Nick Riviera]

Hmm, sounded credible but then I did some research on said professor and I would not necessarily use that adjective to describe him.

[Boac]

What was the 'research'?

[barkingmad]

Boac, Project Fear Mk2 is a very effective virus which will ultimately do more damage than this mysterious bat germ which has terrorised the world of 21st century/24-hour instant news and social meeja, which weren’t around for the previous pan(dem)ics.
The economic, therefore social damage, which guvvment actions worldwide have initiated is just beginning to manifest itself in the jobless figures.
As someone said, Covid-19 doesn’t kill, it just shifts the date of death forwards in time.
At three score and ten and then some, I’m doing overtime and though I might still be able to scratch a Class 1 medical, I’m a fecking nuisance occupying a house too big for one and draining the national and company pension funds.
Time now for me to go and complete the treatment options form before it’s too late. I might be reasonably comfortable with pressure breathing, having experienced it in the mob, but intubation/ventilation is off the list for me-if it gets to that stage please pull the 13A plug outa the wall!
I’ll arrange for an open bar book if anybody can be bothered to attend the toasting.

[Boac]

Boac, Project Fear Mk2 is a very effective virus

only problem is, BM, he was talking about the spread of C19.

As someone said, Covid-19 doesn’t kill, it just shifts the date of death forwards in time.

He did.

[TheGreenGoblin]

Boac, Project Fear Mk2 is a very effective virus

only problem is, BM, he was talking about the spread of C19.

As someone said, Covid-19 doesn’t kill, it just shifts the date of death forwards in time.

He did.

One could say that about every breath one takes or doesn't take...

Not helpful BM...

At three score and ten and then some, I’m doing overtime and though I might still be able to scratch a Class 1 medical, I’m a fecking nuisance occupying a house too big for one and draining the national and company pension funds.

A Swiftian modest proposal - Maybe we should put the older generation (pick an arbitrary age) against the wall and simply shoot them, or set up euthanasia booths for this weak willed and spoiled older generation... for God's sake, what is happening is an outrage in the modern era and the ineptitude of the current government should be clear to see. Fight for your lives you spineless lot and fight for the human right, whatever your age, for better health, freedom and happiness, as your elders and better's did...

[AtomKraft]

Now we see the result of terrifying the entire population.
School teachers, never the bravest bunch to be fair, are too worried that the bug might get them, to go back to 'work'.
Can't say I blame them for enjoying their fully funded extended wine tasting session.

Everyone is too worried to fly, so Rolls Royce are laying off 9,000 of their workers. Aircraft engines are suddenly in less demand.
BA is laying off 12,000 people.

This is not tactical manoeuvring, this is strategic repositioning, and it's going on, in various scales, all over the World.

I wonder how long it will be until state employed workers follow their private sector colleagues down to the Dole office?

This recession is being cemented in now. It will surely become a terrible depression.

[Undried Plum]

Yes, a superDepression is on its way. Much worse than the 1930s.

With all these Trillions of puff-money being created out of thin air, and with the central banksters now boasting openly that further money 'printing' will be "unlimited", you know what will come after the Depression.

Inflation is not simply a matter of to much money chasing too few goods. It's actually the quantity of money multiplied by the velocity of money. Right now the velocity of money has collapsed because people aren't out and about and spending much money.

As soon as that limitation is lifted you are going to see the mother and father of all super-inflation episodes which will make Zimbabwe and the Weimar capers look like wise investment strategies.

[barkingmad]

T G G, my comment re being an elderly nuisance and using resources which the ‘snowflakes’ would prefer they had was said in a sarcastic and ironic fashion, please don’t take it as my proposal for the near future!
I am aware that the latest generation are very sore at us old duffers voting to depart the disintegrating EUSSR and they were hoping that after four years a sufficient of our number would have dropped off the twig and a swift referendum would use that corrected demographic to achieve a ‘remain’ vote.
It has been suggested that Covid-19 will more rapidly achieve this new electoral ‘balance’ but I doubt if they will achieve their aim for Brexit reversal in time.
So now their next hope is for us just to depart, from ‘natural causes’, leaving the ‘wasted’ resources to be shared out amongst them in some socialist Utopia which is being sold in today’s Unis to the ‘woke’ generation.
And I’m determined to be an awkward old bastard who will hang in there and try to enjoy what’s left of my time and hard-earned resources as long as I have a reasonable quality of life.

[Nick Riviera]

What was the 'research'?

It's called the World Wide Web.

[Boac]

Nothing like being vague, is there, Nick?