Trump v. Twitter

[admin]

As the beneficial owner of our forum, resident in Australia as is the site itself, hence within it's legal jurisdiction, interested in members thoughts on "Freedom of speech versus rabble rousing", the latter being posting of incitement to hatred and violence. I did close the site down for a weekend a few years ago after incitement to violence towards a religious grouping got out of hand. Some will remember it.

So does Twitter have a right to post "fact-check edits"? Does Trump have a right to "govern" the US via Twitter posts? And if Twitter cancelled his account, what should he do about it?

Alison

[TheGreenGoblin]

What masquerades as his brain would implode if Twitter blocked his account!

[Undried Plum]

I see that he has reTwitted somebody's maniacal sentiment that the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.

Bloody good job that he doesn't live in a democracy!

The man is a complete arsehole. Perhaps that's why he's so full of shite.

[Seenenough]

Freedom of speech vs rabble rousing is not the same as freedom of speech vs edited/censored content.

My feeling is if you are a social platform(a beneficial one in your case) posters can say what they choose (if speech freedom prevails ).If you edit and control comments or op-ed you are a publication.

[Undried Plum]

In Chump's case, they are the same.

He wants freedom of speech for himself, but not for anyone who criticises him.

It's a national characteristic of Americans that they can tolerate a lot, so long as it's not criticism of themselves. They just can't handle criticism. They don't have the mental capacity to absorb it or understand it.

[Seenenough]

"They just can't handle criticism. They don't have the mental capacity to absorb it or understand it."

Pretty rich comming from you.

[Seenenough]

Are you comfortable ,Alison ,that your forum condones the use of the N word

[Undried Plum]

A forum owner does not "condone", or otherwise support, the use of any word freely spoken on a forum.

That's rather the point of this thread, I think.

Hereabouts, we use the N word freely, as we we do the the F word and the C word and many others of the alphabet.

Freedom of speech is why some, many perhaps, came to 'shelter in place' from another place.

[admin]

What's the "N" word, Seen.

If you are referring to Guy Gibson's dog, Then I don't have a problem. Having lived in Africa for four years don't have a problem with the term NR either. Having seen areas there that could have been once described as the "Bread Basket of Africa" turned into begging bowls due to the wholesale incompetence and sh*t laziness of the locals, respect is nil for those in Africa.

[Seenenough]

A forum owner does not "condone", or otherwise support, the use of any word freely spoken on a forum.

That's rather the point of this thread, I think.

Hereabouts, we use the N word freely, as we we do the the F word and the C word and many others of the alphabet.

Freedom of speech is why some, many perhaps, came to 'shelter in place' from another place.

I have not seen another contributor use the word and I cannot beleve that the forum condones such racism.

[Undried Plum]

If you prefer acronyms to save your blushes, Seen, try NR.

Else, **** to somewhere else where a spade ain't called a spade.

Also, note that it was a whitey wot killed the Nigggah, not the other way around.

[admin]

I do not overtly condone racism for racism's sake, but I do recognise the reality of many situations. For Instance there is no comparison between Obama and Mugabe, although both share their skin colour.

Describe Mugabe however you will, but do the same for Obama and I will stamp on it. Totally out of order.

[Seenenough]

I do not overtly condone racism for racism's sake, but I do recognise the reality of many situations. For Instance there is no comparison between Obama and Mugabe, although both share their skin colour.

Describe Mugabe however you will, but do the same for Obama and I will stamp on it. Totally out of order.

"Describe Mugabe however you will, but do the same for Obama and I will stamp on it. Totally out of order." Why the difference?

I have never liked Mugabe but that does not permit me to use racist remarks about him.

I have a screen shot of the N word that Plum used and he was clearly refering to the Late George Floyd who was under the knee of a "white"cop.

Plum's context and use of the word is absolute racism and cannot be spun into meaning anything else.

For the record,I am appalled as to how the death of George Floyd occurred.

[Rwy in Sight]

I have been very concerned about two things here:

who authorises an institution to censor an elected official?
and if we start with office holder X don't we risk the danger to start censoring whoever we don't like, or out interest so dictate?

Finally most people in authority and a lot of people of leftist political views don't like to others to disagree with them.

[Capetonian]

I couldn't give a toss about what Trump says.
I couldn't give a toss about what idiots/wannabee 'celebrities'/so-called 'celebrities'/morons write on Twatter.
It is of as much consequence to me as the birds twittering in the trees, the difference being that the birds make a pleasant and sonorous sound.

What Trump writes on Twatter is as important to me as the gurgling of water down the toilet after I've taken a dump.

How on earth can a 'statesman' expect to be anything other than an object of derision when he communicates by Twatter/Faecesbook/etc?

[Bob]

Re: Twitter actions, they are not editing or censoring, they are offering a path to checking facts.
Now I know this is a terrible thing to do to a pathological liar, but only the feeble minded (you know who you are) would equate it to censorship

[4mastacker]

.........How on earth can a 'statesman' expect to be anything other than an object of derision when he communicates by Twatter/Faecesbook/etc?

Absolutely Cape. Well said.

[Boac]

It is a shame we cannot have some system of 'fact checking' (that is known as 'censoring' by our resident snowflakes) for HMG 'announcements'.

[om15]

I grew out of casual racism in about 1970 and don't especially enjoy listening to it in others, but each to their own.

I think that Obama was an absolute twat because he tried to interfere in the discussions within the UK prior to the Brexit vote, not interested in his colour, he was a twat for getting involved in the politics in this country.
I admire the way Mr Trump does things, especially the way in which insolent journalists are bustled out of the room by his large associates when they try to be too clever by half.
I have been watching Boris Johnson taking the press questions this week, I am very disappointed at his wimpish performance, wringing his hands and being very humble with the impertinent BBC journalists, it is about time he stopped trying to appease them and put them in their places.
Look at the admirable Mr Trump, no nonsense there, any journalist steps out of line gets a mouth full.
"When the looting starts, the shooting starts", snappy, authoritarian and a conversation stopper, he displays confidence and demonstrates who is in charge, we need someone like him, he didn't go to Eton.

I note the frustration that the lefties are expressing at the fact that they have been completely sidelined in the UK and the US, only in Europe are they still active, and look at the mess that they are in, no, it is OK for the lefties to seeth on the sidelines as long as the grown ups are getting on with it, I just wish that we had someone like Mr Trump, but at least we have Dominic Cummings, so far he appears to be coming out on top of the forces of socialism lined up against him.

[Boac]

May your wish come true, old chap.