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Re: Chaos in Canada

#181 Post by Dushan » Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:05 pm

Hopefully they will call an election before April 23 when the new riding boundaries take effect.
That is, if they call it. I suspect that Jagmeet will try to hang on until October 2025 when he gets his full government indexed pension.

But there are other plays in place. Who knows. The sooner the better.
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#182 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:07 pm

Trudy's answer to all the criticism of the Climate Action Incentive Payment, not least his recent carve-out for Maritime oil burners to shamelessly buy votes, and refusal to exempt farmers drying crops despite massive food inflation, is.....

..to rename it the Canada Carbon Rebate.

That's it. No change to anything except the name.

As if they had nothing else to do. On what planet is this a good idea?
I don't see how even Liberal voters will think this is sane.

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Re: Chaos in Canada

#183 Post by Dushan » Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:34 pm

Lipstick on a pig...

Sadly Liberal voters will vote for this idiot and his travelling clown show no mater what.
Guilbeault just let the cat out of the bag by saying they plan to eliminate building of roads infrastructure. Walk or cycle you peasants, we have our chauffeur driven limos to get around not to mention a Challenger or two (just to stay with aviation context).
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#184 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:27 pm

Only 58% of the Canadian Armed Forces is actually capable of deployment at the moment.
That's personnel and equipment.
Which does mean some Generals have been managing the decline quite well to keep them balanced, assuming the balance goes down to unit level, but that's about the only good point.

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#185 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:30 pm

Saltwire, which publishes most of the Atlantic Canadian newspapers, filed for creditor protection today, but it's not coming back.
Postmedia, which is the biggest publisher in Canada, has made losses of over $70m for each of the last 2 years.
Bell closed 45 local radio stations last month.

And all this with the government now paying a third of "approved" media wages.
That is, all the legacy media who "approve" of Justin Trudeau.
Not those nasty "Far-Right" "Nazi" media start ups who keep asking awkward questions of government.

And...so what?
Almost nobody consumes the legacy media these days. CBC news 'The National' news gets under 1% of Canadians watching.

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Re: Chaos in Canada

#186 Post by Dushan » Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:53 pm

Fox3WheresMyBanana wrote:
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And...so what?
Almost nobody consumes the legacy media these days. CBC news 'The National' news gets under 1% of Canadians watching.
And, yet, we spend $1.5B on them. "Condos on Front Street", I say.
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#187 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:15 pm

If they weren't wasting it on the media, they'd be wasting it on something else.

The essential problem with all socialist governments is that they are inefficient, and debt increases by more than the real GDP (that is, expenditure which is actually productive, not just nominally).
So, eventually, almost everyone ends up in government accommodation, on a government salary or benefits, yet can't afford anything.

The real problem now is that, whatever they call themselves and whatever BS they publish in manifestos, all the supposedly right of centre parties - worldwide - are also socialists.
That is, they are inefficient, unproductive, and so increase inflation and decrease standards of living. Their answer to everything is also to legislate, not delegislate.

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#188 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:45 pm

A few days ago, the Canadian Chief of the General Staff gave a public speech on the need for more openness on defence issues....

..and his office now refuses to provide copies, stating that an Access to Information request must be made (which has a current backlog of 2 years).

Insane.

https://nationalpost.com/news/national/ ... 35532d481f

Meanwhile, all Canadian military pilot training in Canada is to be shut down, and the pilots trained abroad.
There's probably some BS financial case, but I'll bet instructor shortage is the real problem.

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#189 Post by Dushan » Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:26 pm

Are you sure John Cleese is not masquerading as Canadian Chief of the General Staff? I mean it would be appropriate given the reply.
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#190 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:49 am

More like the antagonist in a Franz Kafka novel.

I mean, with Trudy still in charge, one wasn't expecting common sense.

Or, for that matter, The Spanish Inquisition.

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#191 Post by Dushan » Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:39 am

Those are big words “Trudy still IN CHARGE”. I don’t think he ever was.
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#192 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:00 am

I take a literal view of the word. He is in charge because he has been charged with the responsibility of running Canada for the benefit of Canadians.
However, and I think I am in agreement with your sentiment, he has never been in control.
He certainly hasn't carried out the duty he has been charged with, or even tried to where it conflicted with his personal whims, which is pretty much all the time now.
He seems to be trying the cute little kid approach these days. He knows he's screwed up, and that he doesn't know how to fix it, but he'd like to be forgiven and still get his sweet ration.

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Re: Chaos in Canada

#193 Post by Dushan » Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:25 pm

I agree that he is not in control, but as far as charge goes, I think there are backroom players that pull his strings. That is the reason he was put in the position he is in: to have no competency of his own and to execute the the orders given. He may not be doing to what you and I think is the right thing to do but I think he is doing EXACTLY what his masters are telling him. The end game is destruction of Canada as we knew it and he is succeeding.

... i'll get my tinfoil hat, coat...
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#194 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:22 pm

The problem with conspiracy theories these days is that it's a media and government tactic to label a lot of inconvenient facts and reasoning a "conspiracy theory", which then comes true when the truth escapes their attempted coralling.
So it becomes hard to distinguish a genuine conspiracy theory from something given that label.

Big business and rich people have been attempting to influence government from the beginning of history. It's a human trait, and we start doing it as babies on those who control us (parents, etc).
Undoubtedly, funding provided to political parties, worldwide, and to those in those parties, gets to influence who gets picked as candidates for office, and to a certain extent those who rise through the party ranks.
And the general public mostly cannot bring themselves to vote for independents, so thus the funders get a good influence over government.
The funders are not going to put into power those who have a mind of their own and strong principles, because they won't do what they are told unless it benefits the country. And in that case they probably would have done it anyway, so there would be no need to fund them.
And of course it helps if you put in the corrupt and the weak, because then you can buy and/or blackmail them.
And cowardice is a good thing to exploit too, as is narcissism.
I used to explain to my leadership groups that if you couldn't persuade people by force of argument, you had four basic methods to get them to do what you wanted:

Flattery
Bribery
Blackmail
Threats of Extreme Violence.

Trudeau is a fine example of someone who can be persuaded by all four.

Now it is consequential from selecting people who are cowardly, narcissistic, and corrupt that they will not be genuinely hard-working or clever. People who are prefer to achieve things by exercising those traits, it's more satisfying.
And lazy, stupid people really screw up in complex crises. There isn't time, or the mechanisms, to pull their strings fast enough to make them look clever. Furthermore, you can't even surround them with 'tame' experts, unless those experts also fit the requirements to be controlled. They may be more educated than the average politician, but they are not clever, nor are they resilient. They cannot cope with complex stuff outside their field, or with carrying all the responsibility that goes with dealing with a crisis. There are no integrators in modern government, and none who can cope with the stress of being responsible for providing a solution that actually works.

So, is there actually a conspiracy going on anywhere, or is the current succession of crises just a consequence of big business's desire for cheap labour that's gotten out of hand?
Well, I think there are a couple.
The first is Anthropogenic Climate Change. This has nothing much to do with business profits, and involved far too much detailed government string-pulling to be some kind of accidental consequence. Nevermind that all politicians are too dumb to have thought of it themselves.
And the second is the entire minorities/racial BS, same reasoning.

But the collapsing of western societies is, I think, mainly a consequence of putting idiots in government, coupled with neither they nor their influencers having thought through the consequences of mass illegal immigration, such as pandemics. And those consequences are now triggering more and bigger crises that they can't cope with, don't have a plan for, and don't even want.

I never ascribe to conspiracy that which can be adequately explained by stupidity (Hanlon's Razor).

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Re: Chaos in Canada

#195 Post by Dushan » Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:10 pm

Very good analysis, Fox3. I do know that most of what is happening in Ottawa is pure incompetence and ineptness, and very little conspiracy, but there are those in the LIEberal party who are behind the curtain (Chretien, Martin) who still pull some of the strings. Too bad one of the strings doesn't accidentally get wrapped around his neck.
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Re: Chaos in Canada

#196 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:23 pm

Patience, Grasshopper ;)))

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Re: Chaos in Canada

#197 Post by llondel » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:50 pm

Dushan wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:26 pm
Are you sure John Cleese is not masquerading as Canadian Chief of the General Staff? I mean it would be appropriate given the reply.
John Cleese is competent and very good at what he does.

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#198 Post by Dushan » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:53 pm

llondel wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:50 pm
Dushan wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:26 pm
Are you sure John Cleese is not masquerading as Canadian Chief of the General Staff? I mean it would be appropriate given the reply.
John Cleese is competent and very good at what he does.
Well, yes, he is but as Basil Fawlty for example...?
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#199 Post by Dushan » Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:39 pm

Budget day in Rottawa. The wicked witch from University-Rosedale bought new ruby slippers and announced a $40B deficit, but since they estimated $39B deficit the REAL deficit is only $1B. New math.

But she is working hard on reducing spending. Of the 365,000 civil servants she expects to shed 5,000 in the next 5 years. Wow! Now that’s fiscal responsibility.
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Re: Chaos in Canada

#200 Post by Fox3WheresMyBanana » Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:14 pm

Pitchforks on offer this fortnight at Princess Auto.
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